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The Wonder Years Announce The Greatest Generation 10th Anniversary Tour

The post The Wonder Years Announce The Greatest Generation 10th Anniversary Tour appeared first on Consequence .

The Wonder Years have plotted a Fall 2023 tour in celebration of the 10th anniversary of their fourth studio album, The Greatest Generation . They’ll perform the album in full every night along with a “selection of other songs from across our catalog.”

Kicking off on September 9th at the band’s own Loneliest Place on Earth Fest, the expansive North American trek will make subsequent stops in New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Nashville, Toronto, and many more. It’ll wrap up at The Fest in Gainesville, Florida in late October. Anxious, Sweet Pill, and Action / Adventure will serve as the openers.

A Live Nation pre-sale will begin on Tuesday, June 6th (use access code DISCO ) ahead of the general on-sale slated for Friday, June 9th via Ticketmaster .

Once tickets are on sale, you can also find them at StubHub , where orders are 100% guaranteed through StubHub’s FanProtect program. StubHub is a secondary market ticketing platform, and prices may be higher or lower than face value, depending on demand.

The Wonder Years released their most recent album, The Hum Goes on Forever , in 2022.

The Wonder Years 2023 Tour Dates: 07/06 – Cheltenham, UK @ 2000 Trees Festival 09/09 – Philadelphia, PA @ Loneliest Place on Earth Fest 09/10 – New York, NY @ Terminal 5 09/12 – Baltimore, MD @ Rams Head Live! 09/13 – Richmond, VA @ The National 09/15 – Charlotte, NC @ The Fillmore Charlotte 09/16 – Myrtle Beach, SC @ House of Blues Myrtle Beach 09/17 – Atlanta, GA @ Heaven at the Masquerade 09/19 – Dallas, TX @ The Studio at the Factory 09/20 – Austin, TX @ Mohawk Austin 09/22 – Tempe, AZ @ Marquee Theatre 09/23 – San Diego, CA @ The Observatory – North Park 09/25 – Anaheim, CA @ Crossroads at House of Blues Anaheim 09/26 – Los Angeles, CA @ The Belasco Theater 09/27 – San Luis Obispo, CA @ Fremont Theater 09/28 – Berkeley, CA @ The UC Theatre 09/30 – Portland, OR @ Roseland Theater 10/01 – Seattle, WA @ Showbox SoDo 10/04 – Denver, CO @ Ogden Theatre 10/06 – Kansas City, MO @ The Truman 10/07 – St. Louis, MO @ Red Flag 10/08 – Chicago, IL @ Riviera Theatre 10/09 – Nashville, TN @ Brooklyn Bowl Nashville 10/11 – Cleveland, OH @ House of Blues Cleveland 10/12 – Royal Oak, MI @ Royal Oak Music Theatre 10/13 – Columbus, OH @ KEMBA Live! 10/14 – Pittsburgh, PA @ Roxian Theatre 10/15 – Buffalo, NY @ Town Ballroom 10/17 – Toronto, ON @ Phoenix Concert Theatre 10/18 – Ottawa, ON @ Algonquin Commons Theatre 10/19 – Boston, MA @ House of Blues Boston 10/21 – New Haven, CT @ College Street Music Hall 10/22 – Sayreville, NJ @ Starland Ballroom 10/27–29 – Gainesville, FL @ The Fest

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The Wonder Years Announce ‘The Greatest Generation’ 10th Anniversary Tour 

by Tiffany Goldstein June 7, 2023, 10:14 pm

Pop-punk band, The Wonder Years will be hitting the road this fall to celebrate the birthday of their fourth studio album,  The Greatest Generation . The six-person ensemble, composed of Dan “Soupy” Campbell, Casey Cavaliere, Matt Brasch, Josh Martin, Nick Steinborn, and Mike Kennedy, turned to social media to announce the exciting news. 

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“We told you it was coming, and here it is: the first leg of our tour celebrating the 10th Anniversary of  The Greatest Generation . We’ll be performing the album in full every night along with a selection of other songs from across our catalog and will be joined by Anxious, Sweet Pill, and Action/ Adventure,” the group wrote on their Instagram account . “We know what these songs mean to you – they mean so much to us too – so we cannot wait to play them all again.” 

The highly anticipated run is slated to kick off in early September in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, at Franklin Music Hall. The men will wrap up their celebratory trek on Oct. 27 in Gainesville, Florida, at The Fest ‘23, a multi-day affair that honors “underground music.” The Wonder Years will hit massive markets on tour, such as New York, Austin, Los Angeles, Denver, Chicago, and Nashville. 

Emo band Anxious, Sweet Pill, and Action/Adventure will serve as direct support on select dates. 

Pre-sale for tickets will begin on Tuesday, June 6. Fans can use the code “DISCO” to gain early access. Seats for the general public will become available starting Friday, June 9 at 10 am local via Ticketmaster or on their official website. 

Their jammed-packed setlist will include some of their biggest hits, including “There, There,” “Passing Through A Screen Door,” “The Devil in My Bloodstream,” “Dismantling Summer,” and many more. 

The beloved group formed in 2005 and quickly became known for its introspective lyrics and relatable narratives. In 2007, they released their debut album,  Get Stoked on It . They dropped two more LP’s before their breakthrough record in 2013, The  Greatest Generation . 

Ahead of the release, the band performed four shows in a matter of 24 hours to support the project. They sold more than 19K copies and peaked at No.20 on  Billboard’s  200 chart. At the time, they shared a handful of tracks from the project on the Vans Warped Tour, where they were praised for their energetic appeal. 

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The Greatest Generation 10th Anniversary Tour 

September 9 – Philadelphia, PA @ Franklin Music Hall (Outdoors)

September 10 – New York, NY @ Terminal 5

September 12 – Baltimore, MD @ Rams Head Live!

September 13 – Richmond, VA @ The National

September 15 – Charlotte, NC @ The Fillmore Charlotte

September 16 – North Myrtle Beach, SC @ House of Blues

September 17 – Atlanta, GA @ The Masquerade (Heaven)

September 19 – Dallas, TX @ The Studio at the Factory

September 20 – Austin, TX @ Mohawk

September 22 – Tempe, AZ @ The Marquee

September 23 – San Diego, CA @ The Observatory – North Park

September 25 – Anaheim, CA @ House of Blues

September 26 – Los Angeles, CA @ The Belasco Theater

September 27 – San Luis Obispo, CA @ Fremont Theater

September 28 – Berkeley, CA @ The UC Theatre

September 30 – Portland, OR @ Roseland Theater

October 1 – Seattle, WA @ Showbox SODO

October 4 – Denver, CO @ Ogden Theatre

October 6 – Kansas City, MO @ The Truman

October 7 – St. Louis, MO @ Red Flag

October 8 – Chicago, IL @ The Riviera Theatre

October 9 – Nashville, TN @ Brooklyn Bowl Nashville

October 11 – Cleveland, OH @ House of Blues

October 12 – Royal Oak, MI @ Royal Oak Music Theatre

October 13 – Columbus, OH @ KEMBA Live!

October 14 – McKees Rocks, PA @ Roxian Theatre

October 15 – Buffalo, NY @ Town Ballroom

October 17 – Toronto, ON @ Phoenix Concert Theatre

October 18 – Ottawa, ON @ Algonquin Commons Theatre

October 19 – Boston, MA @ House of Blues

October 21 – New Haven, CT @ College Street Music Hall

October 22 – Sayreville, NJ @ Starland Ballroom

October 27 – Gainesville, FL @ The Fest ‘23 (TWY only) 

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The Wonder Years announce ‘The Greatest Generation’ 10 year anniversary tour

Posted by Logan White | Jun 7, 2023 | Featured , Music , News , Tour Announcements | 0 |

Following months of teasing and anticipation, The Wonder Years have announced that they will be heading out on a 10th anniversary tour celebrating their fourth studio album, The Greatest Generation . The band will be performing the album in full every night along with a “selection of other songs from across our catalog.”

The Wonder Years have referred to this tour as the “first leg,” so expect more dates to be revealed at a later date.

“ We’ll be performing the album in full every night along with a selection of other songs from across our catalog. We know what these songs mean to you—they mean so much to us too—so we cannot wait to play them all again ,” the band have said via social media.

The tour will kick off on September 9th at the band’s very own Loneliest Place on Earth Fest, before expanding on a massive trek across North America making stops in New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Nashville, Toronto, and many more. The run will wrap up at The Fest in Ganesville, Florida in late October where The Wonder Years will perform two sets.

A Live Nation pre-sale is live now with access code DISCO, ahead of the general on-sale slated for this Friday, June 9th here .

Check out all of their announced tour dates below.

Tour dates :

07/06 – Cheltenham, UK @ 2000 Trees Festival 09/09 – Philadelphia, PA @ Loneliest Place on Earth Fest 09/10 – New York, NY @ Terminal 5 09/12 – Baltimore, MD @ Rams Head Live! 09/13 – Richmond, VA @ The National 09/15 – Charlotte, NC @ The Fillmore Charlotte 09/16 – Myrtle Beach, SC @ House of Blues Myrtle Beach 09/17 – Atlanta, GA @ Heaven at the Masquerade 09/19 – Dallas, TX @ The Studio at the Factory 09/20 – Austin, TX @ Mohawk Austin 09/22 – Tempe, AZ @ Marquee Theatre 09/23 – San Diego, CA @ The Observatory – North Park 09/25 – Anaheim, CA @ Crossroads at House of Blues Anaheim 09/26 – Los Angeles, CA @ The Belasco Theater 09/27 – San Luis Obispo, CA @ Fremont Theater 09/28 – Berkeley, CA @ The UC Theatre 09/30 – Portland, OR @ Roseland Theater 10/01 – Seattle, WA @ Showbox SoDo 10/04 – Denver, CO @ Ogden Theatre 10/06 – Kansas City, MO @ The Truman 10/07 – St. Louis, MO @ Red Flag 10/08 – Chicago, IL @ Riviera Theatre 10/09 – Nashville, TN @ Brooklyn Bowl Nashville 10/11 – Cleveland, OH @ House of Blues Cleveland 10/12 – Royal Oak, MI @ Royal Oak Music Theatre 10/13 – Columbus, OH @ KEMBA Live! 10/14 – Pittsburgh, PA @ Roxian Theatre 10/15 – Buffalo, NY @ Town Ballroom 10/17 – Toronto, ON @ Phoenix Concert Theatre 10/18 – Ottawa, ON @ Algonquin Commons Theatre 10/19 – Boston, MA @ House of Blues Boston 10/21 – New Haven, CT @ College Street Music Hall 10/22 – Sayreville, NJ @ Starland Ballroom 10/27–29 – Gainesville, FL @ The Fest

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The Wonder Years Announce The Greatest Generation 10th Anniversary Tour

During which they'll perform the album in full every night

The Wonder Years have plotted a Fall 2023 tour in celebration of the 10th anniversary of their fourth studio album, The Greatest Generation . They’ll perform the album in full every night along with a “selection of other songs from across our catalog.”

Kicking off on September 9th at the band’s own Loneliest Place on Earth Fest, the expansive North American trek will make subsequent stops in New York City, Los Angeles, Chicago, Nashville, Toronto, and many more. It’ll wrap up at The Fest in Gainesville, Florida in late October. Anxious, Sweet Pill, and Action / Adventure will serve as the openers.

A Live Nation pre-sale will begin on Tuesday, June 6th (use access code DISCO ) ahead of the general on-sale slated for Friday, June 9th via Ticketmaster .

Once tickets are on sale, you can also find them at StubHub , where orders are 100% guaranteed through StubHub’s FanProtect program. StubHub is a secondary market ticketing platform, and prices may be higher or lower than face value, depending on demand.

The Wonder Years released their most recent album, The Hum Goes on Forever , in 2022.

The Wonder Years 2023 Tour Dates: 07/06 – Cheltenham, UK @ 2000 Trees Festival 09/09 – Philadelphia, PA @ Loneliest Place on Earth Fest 09/10 – New York, NY @ Terminal 5 09/12 – Baltimore, MD @ Rams Head Live! 09/13 – Richmond, VA @ The National 09/15 – Charlotte, NC @ The Fillmore Charlotte 09/16 – Myrtle Beach, SC @ House of Blues Myrtle Beach 09/17 – Atlanta, GA @ Heaven at the Masquerade 09/19 – Dallas, TX @ The Studio at the Factory 09/20 – Austin, TX @ Mohawk Austin 09/22 – Tempe, AZ @ Marquee Theatre 09/23 – San Diego, CA @ The Observatory – North Park 09/25 – Anaheim, CA @ Crossroads at House of Blues Anaheim 09/26 – Los Angeles, CA @ The Belasco Theater 09/27 – San Luis Obispo, CA @ Fremont Theater 09/28 – Berkeley, CA @ The UC Theatre 09/30 – Portland, OR @ Roseland Theater 10/01 – Seattle, WA @ Showbox SoDo 10/04 – Denver, CO @ Ogden Theatre 10/06 – Kansas City, MO @ The Truman 10/07 – St. Louis, MO @ Red Flag 10/08 – Chicago, IL @ Riviera Theatre 10/09 – Nashville, TN @ Brooklyn Bowl Nashville 10/11 – Cleveland, OH @ House of Blues Cleveland 10/12 – Royal Oak, MI @ Royal Oak Music Theatre 10/13 – Columbus, OH @ KEMBA Live! 10/14 – Pittsburgh, PA @ Roxian Theatre 10/15 – Buffalo, NY @ Town Ballroom 10/17 – Toronto, ON @ Phoenix Concert Theatre 10/18 – Ottawa, ON @ Algonquin Commons Theatre 10/19 – Boston, MA @ House of Blues Boston 10/21 – New Haven, CT @ College Street Music Hall 10/22 – Sayreville, NJ @ Starland Ballroom 10/27–29 – Gainesville, FL @ The Fest

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PA punks The Wonder Years have announced a huge North American tour later in 2023 celebrating the 10th anniversary of their fourth album 'The Greatest Generation'. The 32-city campaign takes place in September/October visiting cities like Boston, Philadelphia, New York, Atlanta, Dallas, Los Angeles, Seattle and Toronto. Joining the tour in support will be special guests Anxious, Sweet Pill and Action/Adventure. The band recently wrapped up their The Hum Goes On Forever Tour which was joined by Fireworks, Macseal, Hot Mulligan and Carly Cosgrove.

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The Wonder Years celebrate 10 years of The Greatest Generation with new anniversary box set

The Wonder Years are celebrating a decade of their phenomenal fourth album The Greatest Generation with a limited-edition anniversary box set, and the release of brilliant bonus track GODDAMNITALL.

While we’re still very much spinning last year’s excellent The Hum Goes On Forever record, The Wonder Years are throwing things back to 2013.

Specifically, the Philly pop-punk titans are celebrating a whole decade of their phenomenal fourth album The Greatest Generation, which is getting the limited-edition box set treatment featuring rare demos and voice memos, and a 32-page booklet of essays, photos and more.

It also contains ‘new’ tune GODDAMNITALL, which is part-TGG and part-recently finished, and has been unveiled today with a video featuring some awesome footage from the time of The Greatest Generation’s release.

Says vocalist Dan Campbell: “GODDAMNITALL is a song that almost was, and then, for a long time, categorically was not, and now is.

“When it came time to find bonus content for this box set, we went grave digging in old hard-drives to find the demos from TGG that didn’t get finished and then exhumed and reanimated this one. It was the closest to being done at the time. All of the music was there. The chorus had lyrics and melody but, for budget and time constraints it got abandoned before it had verses and a bridge.

“Now, a decade later, it’s finally finished. We asked Steve Evetts to produce it the same way he would have if it were on the original album and it now stands as a spiritual and somewhat literal B-side to The Greatest Generation.”

Watch the video for GODDAMNITALL below:

The Wonder Years’ The Greatest Generation 10th anniversary vinyl box set is due out on September 8 via Hopeless Records.

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For a number of years, this would have been an almost-blank page. Back in the mid-2010s, a few years afer The Wonder Years had first formed in Lansdale, PA, just north of Philadelphia, the band would be asked to provide a bio for events they were playing. All Dan Campbell would write was ‘The Wonder Years is a band’. That was it. They’d then receive the programs for whatever fesMval or event it was for and laugh. Most bands, the frontman remembers, would write a “full page thing about how their last record charted and ours would just be a blank page with those six words at the top.” A lot of Mme has passed since then, and a lot has changed, although also not that much, at the same Mme. If The Wonder Years – completed by guitarists MaT Brasch and Casey Cavaliere, drummer Mike Kennedy, bassist Josh MarMn and keyboardist/mulM-instrumentalist Nick Steinborn – could get away with a six-word bio, they probably would. As it happens, when it comes to The Hum Goes On Forever, context is important, which is why you’re reading these words. The most important reason is that this is the first record the band has made since Campbell became a father. And so, when he sings its very first words – ‘I don’t want to die’ – on its very first song, “Doors I Painted Shut”, they shimmer with a liTle extra poignancy and potency. Because as someone who has sung candidly about how despondent he’s felt at Mmes, thoughts of unexistence are no longer possible. It doesn’t mean they stop, but Campbell can no longer succumb to the abject malaise they induce. “You’ve got to pull it together,” he says, “because your kids are counMng on you. These things that feel hopeless – these massive cultural and societal, full-populace problems like climate change and school shooMngs, all the things that you’re afraid of for your children – well, they only get fixed if you fix them. ‘I don’t want to die – because I’ve got to protect you.’ It would be very easy to give in to the depression and just kind of lay there, but my kids are counMng on me, so I have to try to pull myself together and do the work. ” That, then, is the crux of this record: his survival is more important than it ever was before. As Campbell phrases it, “How do you take care of someone else that needs you when there are days that you barely want to exist?” Now that he’s a father, the answer is a lot simpler than it used to be. Quite simply, he doesn’t have a choice. Rather, he has to press on against the noise that’s been inside his brain for as long as he can remember. That’s what the ‘hum’ of this album’s Mtle is. Taken from a poem he wrote for Sister Ci:es, it is, he says, a representaMon of the gloom he tends to carry with him. “Even when it’s not constantly in my face,” he admits, “there’s always a low hum of sadness, a low rumbling of ennui. So The Hum Goes On Forever is the understanding that I’m always going to have it, it’s always going to be there, it’s always been there for literal generaMons of my family and it’s important that I accept that and live and work through it.” The Hum Goes On Forever, then, is the sound of The Wonder Years navigaMng those dark, cold waters, bringing that ever-present pulse in the back of Campbell’s mind to vivid life, while also pushing it as far back into his skull as it will go. It’s the kind of effect that’s only achievable through true collaboraMon and understanding, something that defines how the band has operated from its incepMon. The six-piece wrote the bulk of these songs in a farmhouse in the middle of Pennsylvania in the winter of 2021.This was before vaccines were widely available, so they all quaranMned for 14 days first. Then, a@er gecng vaccinated, they wrote together again in March, April and May, before tracking songs in June. IniMally, the idea was to just make an EP with Will Yip, but it instead became their seventh album, finished with Steve EveTs, a@er the band decided the songs would be under-served on an EP. The result is a record that captures the taught, fraught uncertainty of the period in which they were wriTen, but also travels back in Mme and memory to uncover and dwell on and inhabit le@over remnants of the past. It serves, too, as a revealing representaMon of how the six lives that consMtute The Wonder Years interact with each other. That happens both inside and outside of the band, obviously, but in terms of the former, they’ve all grown together immensely as musicians. It means the band knows when to be restrained and when to explode, filling in space and empMness as needed to create a record that mirrors, sonically, the heart-torn urgency at its core, the way these six individuals interact with each other, each an essenMal component of a greater whole - as well as the next evoluMon of a band that’s never stopped growing, never stopped striving, never stopped searching for the truth and the heart of this dumb thing we call life. It would be easy to talk about how specific songs do that, but that would also kind of defeat the point of this record. Because this is a complete journey and should be taken in as such. It begins in August and ends in June and traverses years and decades, as well as the constant cycle of sadness and healing within them. Except it never quite gets there. The hum is never totally shaken off. “Because the tagline for The Upsides was ‘I’m not sad anymore’,” Campbell explains, “I think people were like, ‘This is the guy who used to be depressed.’ But obviously that never goes away. It’s a constant, and you basically have to co-exist with your sadness. It won’t go away, but that doesn’t mean that people don’t rely on you and that you can stop. As we’ve conMnued to make records, that’s manifested itself in different ways, but I don’t think ever as clearly as it has on this record. This one is more clearly about me struggling and floundering and drowning at points. In fact, I think it’s maybe even the most revealing in a lot of ways. There’s things I’m singing about on this record that I wouldn’t have had the guts to confront in myself prior to it – like being this open about how low I had goTen, starMng in late 2019 and then tumbling into a pandemic, and just thinking and thinking and thinking….” There’s a lot of thinking on this record. A lot of thoughts. But the main one, the important one, is that very first line of the first song: I don’t want to die. It’s something he repeats and reiterates on final track “You’re The Reason I Don’t Want The World To End”, which addresses the change in Campbell’s purpose since becoming a dad. That’s obvious enough from the Mtle alone, but with the final line – inspired by gardening with his first son during the pandemic – the message becomes truly clear: ‘Put the work in, plant a garden, try to stay afloat.’ It’s a reminder to himself, but it’s also for anyone who listens, anyone who needs it, everyone who’s grown up with the band and has sought, and conMnues to seek, refuge in their songs. Because, yes, The Wonder Years is a band. But it’s also much, much more than that.

Philadelphia’s Sweet Pill write eruptive emo songs that embrace the edges of pop and hardcore. The kind of band whose members are fully immersed in their local scene—through a handful of notable side projects and the show-promoting Philly staple 4333 Collective—the quintet’s sound takes wide-spectrum influence from its environment. The result is an amalgam of complex song structures and flourishes of technical acumen, wholly unconcerned with genre, yet evoking the specific styles of touchstones such as Paramore and Circa Survive.

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Action/Adventure shouldn’t be here. At least, that’s what the Chicago-based five-piece seem to think. They’re wrong – very wrong – but that’s the overriding theme of their debut album. That’s partly why they named it Imposter Syndrome – because when the band signed to Pure Noise Records, they couldn’t quite believe it. Even after they released their seven-track EP Pulling Focus in 2021, and even after that EP’s lead track “Barricades” went viral on TikTok, it didn’t feel real. After all, this is a label that’s put out some of their favorite albums by some of their favorite bands, and now they were a part of it. That sense of confused bewilderment was compounded by the timing of it all. “For us,” says lead vocalist Blake Evaristo, “having a debut on Pure Noise is insane. Especially because, when “Barricades” blew up for us and we got all that TikTok clout, it happened during the pandemic, so we didn’t even play a show till nearly a year later. And I feel like in that time, we were having imposter syndrome, hence the title. It didn’t feel real.” “And honestly,” adds vocalist/guitarist Brompton Jackson, “it still doesn’t even feel real. We’ve just been asking questions like is this real? Do we belong here? Is this even happening?”

Much as the band – completed by drummer Adrian Brown, bassist Manny Avila and guitarist Oren Trace – might feel that way, the facts are simple: it is real, they do belong here and it is definitely happening. But their imposter syndrome runs deeper than that, namely because they’re an entirely BIPOC band in the pop-punk scene, which automatically adds an extra layer of depth and uneasiness to everything. It’s what the TikTok video for “Barricades” was all about, and it’s an inherent part of their identity. That video was never meant to blow up, nor was it meant to be overtly political. It simply captured how they felt about who they were and was uploaded to TikTok by Jackson one day on a whim. “It was the first video we put on TikTok,” says Evaristo. “Brompton made the account that same day, and to see it connect with people has been amazing. But we’re also here now to show that we’re more than that one song! We’ve had hate comments saying that we’re race baiting, which is so frustrating.” “But we’re 100% not,” adds Jackson. “Me, Oren and Adrian have been playing music together for the past 16 or 17 years. We went to high school together and grew up playing music. Manny was originally  friends with Oren’s wife, and we found Blake on Craigslist. It was kismet.” Still, Action/Adventure are acutely aware their existence is nevertheless important in terms of visibility. They’re just also keen to stress that their initial intentions were all music-focused, and that it’s chance, not design, that they’re all BIPOC.  “Those two parts have to co-exist on completely even playing fields,” explains Jackson. “One can’t really outshine the other. Growing up in the scene, I almost felt like a pariah – I could count the amount of other black people going to shows on one hand. One of them is Adrian! You’d always see the same four or five other black people at shows, so you get to know each other. So it’s important to not lose sight of that, but I also don’t want us to be a token band. We’re just a band. We’re a group of people playing music that we like to listen to and that we like to write – and we just all happen to be people of color. It was an accident, it wasn’t planned.” “We just wanted to play music,” adds Brown. “We all played music individually and ultimately it just seemed easy to play that music together. And while you don’t see a lot of people of color doing this kind of music, not many people I knew in high school liked metalcore and pop-punk, so when you find those people you’re naturally drawn to together. I just wanted to create the feeling that I got when I saw bands play.”

If that was the band’s intention, they’ve achieved it. Imposter Syndrome begins with the emphatic rush of the title track. Its blitz of flurried, angular guitars that are simultaneously aggressive and poppy, before doubling down on the main concern that plagues the record: ‘We’re the imposters’ . The irony is that that song, and this record, proves otherwise. Elsewhere, “Save Yourself” is a powerfully urgent call to arms that brutalizes (in a positive way) the typical pop-punk template, while “Losing Streak” lays bare their insecurities, but pits their defiance and determination against it. “In good times,” says Brown, “I can listen to it and be like ‘Hell yeah, I survived.’ And in bad times I can hear it and be like ‘Don’t forget to keep pushing.’ It hits me and my spirit 110%.” “There’s a lyric in that song that goes ‘No matter what the cost is we’re still chasing losses’ ,” adds Avila, “and that’s so true. Because no matter what it does cost, we’re still chasing it, still going, still pushing.”

One of the other hesitations that manifests itself in this record is the fact the members of Action/Adventure are older than most pop-punk bands who release a debut album. If it’s not quite a chip on their shoulder, it’s certainly something that’s nesting in the back of their minds. But it also lends their music – as youthful and full of vitality as it is – an extra level of gravitas. It makes it matter so much more. “We joke that it’s pop-punk for adults,” smiles Evaristo. “But our ages do add to our imposter syndrome. Age and time has just always been a struggle, and you can hear it in the lyrics too. A lot of it talks about the frustrations of that, because pop-punk is always seen as young persons’ genre and we’re just getting started. We are a little older, but we want to show that it’s never too late.” “Over the years,” adds Jackson, “I feel the genre has really become like a meme. A lot of people don’t take it seriously – when people ask what kind of music we play and I say I’m in a pop-punk band, I’ve gotten responses like ‘I used to listen to pop-punk when I was in high school.’ It’s real tongue-in-cheek. But having it feel very genuine and being able to articulate that these are our actual feelings and emotions and thoughts is very important to all of us.”

One listen to this record, and that’s clear. It’s emotive and erudite, sophisticated and serious, fun but also full of the trials and tribulations, insecurities and uncertainties that make us all human. All that is channeled into these 10 impassioned and precise, vigorous and spirited songs. The fact that it hits so incisively and profoundly demonstrates why – even if they use the term with tongues firmly in cheek – pop-punk for adults is the perfect description. It’s precisely because they’re adults and have known each other for a very long time, that it’s able to be that. “I’ve existed with these people for so long that they’re integral parts of my life,” admits Jackson. “They’re not my bandmates, they’re my family. We’ve all been in many different projects, and this is by far the easiest project I’ve ever been involved with. It’s not hard at all. I mean, it’s hard for the reasons that being a band is hard, but being in a band with these four other people is completely second nature at this point. That part of it isn’t work at all, and I’m eternally grateful for that.” “Even if half of the lyrics are whining about being in a band,” chuckles Evaristo. “But I hope people listen to it and see through our own eyes that being in a band is fun, but that there’s some real shit going on, too. This might be our first album, but we’ve all been through the wringer, and I hope people hear that we have real stuff that we’re dealing with – whether that’s being in a band, being a person of color in the scene or chasing a dream that seems so hard and unattainable. I really hope people can feel what we’re feeling.”

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Remarks by Vice President Harris in a Moderated Conversation with Rashad Bilal and Troy Millings During the Nationwide Economic Opportunity   Tour

Georgia International Convention Center

College Park, Georgia

3:22 P.M. EDT

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  Good afternoon, everyone.  Good afternoon.  (Applause.)

MR. MILLINGS:  Good afternoon, Atlanta.  How’s everybody doing?  (Applause.) 

How’s everybody doing?  (Applause.) 

Okay.  We’re in Atlanta.  But — but before we get started, I want to welcome you to the Economic Opportunity Tour.  This is stop number one.  And what better place to do it here in Atlanta, Georgia? 

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  That’s right.

MR. MILLINGS:  The city of opportunity. 

We want to acknowledge a few people before we get started: Senator Jon Ossoff — (applause); Senator Raphael Warnock — (applause); Representative Steve Horsford, who is the chair of the Congressional Black Caus- — Caucus — (applause) — and is celebrating a birthday with us today.

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  Yes, he is.

MR. BILAL:  Happy birthday.

MR. MILLINGS:  Happy birthday.

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  And Vincent Evans, who worked with him.  (Laughs.)

MR. MILLINGS:  Representative Nikema Williams — (applause); and the leaders of the Black Economic Alliance, who have helped partner to make sure that this tour runs smoothly.  So, congratulat- — and thank you guys for being here today.  (Applause.) 

MR. BILAL:  Yes. 

You know, we do events all the time.  But this — this is a little bit more different, I would say that — (laughter) — you know, a different dress code.  They’re not as enthusiastic for our presence.

MR. MILLINGS:  They’re warming up.  They’re warming up.

MR. BILAL:  But I — it’s more presidential —

MR. MILLINGS:  Yeah.

MR. BILAL:  — for sure. 

Well, first and foremost, thank you for inviting us to have this conversation.  It is something that we are definitely looking forward to, for sure. 

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  Me too.  Thank you. 

MR. BILAL:  So, my first question is: How are you and the President building an economy that provides an opportunity for all?

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  So, let me start by, one, thanking Donald Boone for that introduction and being here.  He is one of the almost 50 entrepreneurs that I invited to my office at the White House last summer to talk about their work and so I could listen to them and learn what we needed to do to get the word out about what we are doing. 

And this Economic Opportunity Tour, as much as anything, was borne out of that and then a dinner that the three of us had at my house and — and is, therefore, about being on the road to let folks know what is available to them in the spirit of understanding we have so many entrepreneurs; we have so many people who have incredible ideas.  They are innovative, hardworking, ambitious, have aspirations, have vision. 

None of that we lack for in the community.  But for most folks, we lack access to the resources that will feed those ambitions and those aspirations. 

I chose Atlanta to be the kickoff for this Economic Opportunity Tour for many reasons that include one of the leaders who is among us — and I would ask us to rise and applaud him — and that is Ambassador Andy Young — (applause) — who is here with his wife, Caroline. 

And I will tell you, as a point of personal privilege, Ambassador Young has been an — an advisor to me, a mentor to me, and a friend and has always talked about his vision — his shared vision with Dr. King — about the vision for America that included a vision that was about fighting for civil rights and understanding that to achieve true equality, we have to also have an economic agenda. 

And that agenda must include speaking to people’s ambitions, that, yes, everybody wants a job — and President Joe Biden and I are very proud that, in our administration, we have brought Black unemployment down to historic lows — but that’s a baseline. 

We also are focused on something Ambassador Young has talked so much about, which is creating opportunity for people to build wealth and to, thereby, not only strengthen their family — Donald Boone talked about that — but strengthen the economy of the community as a whole.  Then everybody in society benefits. 

So, that’s why I’m here and to talk about what we have done, whether it be an extension of the work I did in th- — in the United States Senate to get 12 billion more dollars into community banks or the work that we have done — and you heard the panel earlier today — that is about uplifting our capacity through the Treasury Department.

I want to thank Secretary Yellen, in her absence, for what she has done to be a partner to me around focusing on a number of issues that are about access to capital but with a focus, also, on minority-owned businesses. 

And then what we did to create the Economic Opportunity Coalition, which is fo- — you know, Bank of America, Wells Fargo Bank, Google, and getting private equity to invest in community banks — some of the local community banks being represented here — to increase access to capital so that our entrepreneurs in the community have a place to go where it’s — that the people who are doing the — the lending know the community, know the capacity of the community, know the mores of the community, and can provide not only capital, but the — the knowledge that so many need to understand how to run a business.

You have a great idea, but you don’t necessarily know how to run a payroll; don’t necessarily know what kind of system there is for business taxes in a way that allows you to maximize — right? — your resources; don’t necessarily know how you’re going to keep up your inventory; and — and don’t necessarily know what is available in terms of creating access to markets.  So, you have a good product, but you need access to markets. 

So, the work that we have been doing over the last three years has been focused on all of these areas and also understanding the context in which we exist, which is the longstanding disparities, and understanding that in spite of those who, in certain parts of our country, want to attack DEI, we understand that you can’t truly invest in the strength of our nation if you don’t pay attention to diversity, equity, and inclusion.  (Applause.)

We are, for example, paying attention to the fact that in order for any family or individual to have economic well-being, much less the opportunity to create wealth, we need to take into account the history of, for example, the ability of Black folks in America to own a home. 

Let’s go far back enough — we can go even further, but let’s go far back enough to remember the G.I. Bill that was a promise by our nation to invest in who we call the “Greatest Generation,” who fought in that war.  And so, there was a policy that said: Let us reward them for fighting for our nation and all that we hold sacred and give them access to loans for homeownership. 

And the reality, however, of a well-intentioned plan is that it was not well-intentioned in the way it was implemented for a lot of people in that Black veterans did not receive, in equal measure, those loans.  And so, whereas a whole population of people had public policy that was about federal investment on lifting people up, certain folks — and Black folks, in particular — veterans — did not receive the benefit.  So, now, look at the disparity that’s created even by that.

We look at the history of — of redlining.  We look at the history of segregation.  We remember what happened — I know we’re going to talk about — about these urban plans and what that did to cut freeways across communities and limit their access to commerce. 

We look at what we’ve been dealing with as a — as an administration around bias in home appraisals, even to this day, where it is well documented that when a Black family in certain places is trying to get an appraisal for their home, be it to get a second loan or to sell it, they’re appraised at a lower value than a similarly situated white family.       And so, these are some of the areas that we are focused on through our economic policies.  We’ve been dealing with student loan debt, understanding that, you know, Black students are much more likely to take out a Pell Grant.  We’ve seen an increase in tuition over the years, but the increase in — in Pell Grants has not been commensurate with that.  We’re working on that a bit.  But student loan debt and the forgiveness of that as a way to allow people to have more assets that they can then put into buying a home or — or building a business.       So, these are some of the examples of what we’ve been doing.  We’ve been focused on medical debt.  Let me just add that.       Medical debt can be one of the fastest ways that somebody can go bankrupt.  And often that medical debt is accrued because of some medical emergency that someone or someone in their family has experienced that they didn’t have the savings or the anticipation for.  And we have now put in place a rule that is in the process of being implemented where we have required that medical debt cannot be a part of your credit score — (applause) — and medical debt cannot be considered when your credit is being evaluated for a car loan, a home loan, things of that nature.       So, these are some examples what we’ve been doing.       MR. MILLINGS:  Yeah, I want to stay with that theme of access.  Because it’s a — it’s a real issue.  When we talk about access, and especially communities of color, we’ve lacked it.  A lot of it has been done for many reasons but, specifically — and you kind of alluded to it — urban renewal.       THE VICE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.      MR. MILLINGS:  So, I’m interested in knowing what work is being done to address some of these historic inequities.      THE VICE PRESIDENT:  So, during the late ‘50s and ‘60s, there was this whole policy push — national policy push that was called “urban renewal.”  But what it ended up doing was — and — and it was supposed to be about making life easier for people that live in the areas where it happened.  But essentially, it was about a policy that was directed in making it, many people will say, easier for folks who had wealth and means to — to move to the suburbs and still have access to the — to downtown.  I’m oversimplifying it, but that’s essentially it.       And you see across the country — I’m going to be in Detroit on this tour.  I’m going to be in Milwaukee.  As you all know, I’m from California, from the Bay Area.  We saw it there — where these — these freeways were built and — basically to cut through communities, which bifurcated the community so that folks couldn’t have easy access to, let’s say, the small businesses from where they lived.  And it ended up decimating these communities for years.  So, what we have been doing through our infrastructure bill is putting resources into basically reconnecting communities. 

So, here in Atlanta, for example, Freeway 75 and 85, what we are doing is — is dealing with the fact that — I guess there was a division from Sweet Auburn from downtown — and what we need to do to reconnect by creating basically pathways that include, over that pathway, creating parks — but literally the infrastructure and recreating that infrastructure so we can reconnect communities. 

So, here in Atlanta, there is going to be $158 million out of our infrastructure bill that will do that work.  And it’s going to create, we estimate, about 13,000 jobs and — (applause) — and also focus on affordable housing, which was one of the big issues that we’re facing as a country.  (Applause.)

MR. BILAL:  Another major issue for entrepreneurs is access to capital.  We know that, I think, less than 1 percent goes to Black businesses.  So, what are some steps that you guys are doing to kind of correct that issue, which suffocates a lot of businesses from getting started or from expanding? 

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  So, here’s where I come to this point.  It — none of us have achieved success without support — none of us — and without someone or — or people who understood our talent and our dreams and encouraged us to achieve it and showed us how to achieve it. 

And as much as anything, the spirit behind the push for access to capital — and, in particular, on this tour, focusing on minority small businesses and Black-owned small businesses and small businesses and entrepreneurs who are Black men — is to recognize the disparities that have existed around the access to the opportunity to achieve success. 

Again, I will say, because success is almost always a function of some investment from a community or others that went into the individual who then achieved success.  So, the access to capital push that we have made has been about, yes, getting more federal dollars into community banks.  It has been about getting the private sector and the big banks to invest, because they will admit, and we know, they are not necessarily in the place where they are — where we need them to be situated to know the community. 

Access to capital is — encompasses a commitment to also making sure that we are doing the teaching to then create the access to market.  So, it’s about financial literacy — a lot of what we talked about before around helping people know how to start a business and keep a business going. 

And it’s also about understanding that our small bu- — you know, I know I use — I interchange the word “entrepreneur” and “small business.”  I think, basically, depending on the generation, someone considers themselves an entrepreneur — (laughs) — in terms of younger small businesses, but it’s all entrepreneurship, right? 

What we also know is that our entrepreneurs, our small-business owners are not only leaders in business but community leaders, civic leaders, hiring locally, mentoring, creating opportunities for economic development and growth within individuals and communities. 

So, the work we are doing to extend access to capital is about tapping into the ambition that exists, the aspirations that exist, and then giving people the — the resources that are necessary: money and other resources to actually achieve success. 

Can you talk a little bit about how you all achieved your success and how this kind of approach would lend itself to — to others having a story similar to yours?

MR. BILAL:  Yeah.  You know, we started with an iPhone and idea.  That’s — that’s how we always say.  Like, we — we didn’t have any capital when we started, right?  And that’s the beauty of social media.  Technology has really empowered everybody and kind of leveled the playing field. 

But what we’re seeing is that when we’re interviewing, you know, other entrepreneurs that may not have the same business model as us, they have an extremely difficult time.  And especially when we look at the next generation of unicorn companies —

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.

MR. BILAL:  — billion-dollar, multi-billion-dollar companies, those are mostly tech companies.  And you do need a lot more money to start a tech company. 

MR. BILAL:  So, I feel like the entrepreneur in Morehouse and Spelman, they have just as good ideas as Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos, but they don’t have the capital.

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  Right.

MR. BILAL:  So, they either abort those ideas or they work for those companies.  But even that’s an issue because we know that we are not hired at the same rate in Silicon Valley as other people as well.  Right? 

So, even talking to Robert Smith and a lot of other people like that, this is a very complex problem.  But I think, from our perspective, we have a unique perspective because we actually get to talk to entrepreneurs every single day. 

MR. BILAL:  And we can understand how $100,000 could just accelerate their business, right? 

MR. BILAL:  Fifty thousand dollars can accelerate their business, right?

And even looking in the crowd, we have entrepreneurs.  I see Pinky Cole.  I see Eastside Golf.  And these are young entrepreneurs that went out on a limb and bet on theirself, right?  But a little bit more capital, they can be the next McDonald’s. 

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  That’s right.

MR. BILAL:  They can be the next Nike, right?

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  That’s right.

MR. BILAL:  And that’s what we need in our community, so they can employ — (applause) —

MR. BILAL:  — so they can employ not just 100 people, but 100,000 people.

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  That’s right.  And that — you hit it on the head in terms of how we feel about this. 

This is — you know, th- — yes, there are going to be those who need $20,000 loans.  But folks need million-dollar loans.  (Laughs.)  Right?  (Applause.)  And — and when we talk about a small business, it will be — it could be a dozen employees, but it could also be 200 employees.  And it is that piece of it that is about getting to that next plateau that is very much how I’m thinking about this tour and the work that we are doing. 

So, yes, it’s about start-up capital but also what is required, then, to grow and to scale and have it be sustainable. 

One of the pieces I failed to mention before but I’ll mention now is the President and I, when we first came in, made a commitment that we are going to increase by 50 percent the number of federal contracts going to minority-owned businesses.  And we’re on track to get that done.  (Applause.)

So, part of the point of this tour has been to give folks information about how you apply for a federal contract.  The reason that we made that commitment is because we then put in place more information that is available to more people about how to get a federal contract, because a lot of that, historically, has been who you know. 

And when you get a federal contract, it is potentially yours for life.  And it’s very sustainable and can be the source of great growth for that individual who owns that business and — and beyond.

I’ll also say this, and I was saying it to a few folks earlier: The work that we have accomplished as an administration — be it the infrastructure bill and what we are doing to invest — it’ll be trillions of dollars in infrastructure: roads, bridges, sidewalks, all of that; transportation, public transportation.  What we have done with the — with the — the CHIPS and Science Act, which is about investment in technology and research and development.  What we are doing with the Inflation Reduction Act, which is about at least a trillion dollars invested in the climate, but a clean energy economy. 

One of — one of the compelling reasons for me to start this tour now and to ask all the leaders here for help in getting the word out about what is available to entrepreneurs and small businesses is because we are in the process of putting a lot of money in the streets of America for this growth.  And we want to make sure everyone has access to the opportunity to take advantage of the contracts and the work that is being generated by this policy push. 

And so, we want to make sure people know about it and then know where they can receive the support to be ready to take on the work and then to grow their capacity.

I was very surprised to learn that over 70 percent of construction companies in America — and I’m pretty sure that number is still correct — 70 percent of construction companies in America employ 20 or fewer people.  Those are small businesses —  right? — who, when we’re big building back up America’s infrastructure, a lot of that is construction work.  Got to make sure people know about what’s available to them to actually take those jobs.

MR. MILLINGS:  Yeah, I think that’s — that’s why this moment is so important, right?  I always believed that, first, it’s the awareness part.

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  Yeah.

MR. MILLINGS:  We understand what needs to be done.

Then it’s the education around it, which I think people kind of leave out.  Then it’s the action piece.

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  Mm-hmm.

MR. MILLINGS:  And it — it feels like there’s some action, especially with this tour.  There’s the action that’s going to take place.

I want to talk about something that’s important for every entrepreneur, and that’s the cost of living.

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  Yes.

MR. MILLINGS:  Affordability.

And so, we’ve seen interest rates — obviously, over the past four years, they’ve risen.  What — what steps are being taken to lower the burden of — of housing costs?

MR. MILLINGS:  Because, like you said, there’s disparities in it.  We can go all the way back to the G.I. Bill.  When we talk about the creation of — of generational wealth throughout communities, it’s kind of missed us.  So, what is being done now from your side?

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  So, to your point, we know that homeownership is probably the most effective way to build intergenerational wealth.  And it just — it’s a fact.  (Applause.)

And — and just think about it in this context.  As a homeowner, then as a parent, if you have a child that wants to go to — okay, this is what I’m going to say — Howard University.  (Laughter and applause.)

MR. MILLINGS:  Such a great choice.  Wonder where you got that one from.

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  I couldn’t help myself. 

Or FAMU or — (applause) — or Spelman or Morehouse or Clark — (laughs) — and — and Clark Atlanta, yes. 

And as — as a parent, then, as a homeowner, if you have some equity in your home, you can say to your child, you know, “Don’t take out the loan; I’ll take out some of the equity to help you pay for tuition so that you don’t graduate with extraordinary student loan debt and so that, when you graduate, you can do your dream job and not worry about those hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt and you can go on and — and prosper.” 

As a homeowner, if your child says to you, “I want to start a business; I’ve got a great idea,” and you, as a parent, can say, “Let me take out some equity to give you some start-up capital” — intergenerational wealth. 

However, again, as we’ve already discussed, there have been biases and explicit laws and practices that have been in place over generations to exclude certain folks and communities from that opportunity to create that wealth. 

And so, we’re focused on it also knowing that the — the net worth of a homeowner is about 40 times that of a renter.  Think about that.  And so, what we can do to uplift and create opportunities for that are very important. 

So, one of the things we’ve done is we have proposed that there would be, for first-generation homeowners — so first-time homeowners — at a certain income level, a $25,000 credit to be able to put a down payment down, which we know would make a huge difference.  (Applause.)

And then we’re looking at an additional policy that would be about basically, for — for those who qualify, $400 a month in tax credit so people can be able to pay their mortgage on a monthly basis.  (Applause.)

And we are on track to — a commitment to build 2 million more affordable housing units, including what we’re doing here in terms of the freeway.  (Applause.)  So, that’s important.

But the reality of it is that when we focus on this issue, we got to realize that part of the reason everything is so expensive is we don’t have enough supply on the market.  And this is a national problem. 

So, our investments are about also what we need to do to build affordable housing.  I’m looking at some issues around how we can look at vacant commercial real estate and conversion.  There’s a lot of this issue that is about also what we need to do to focus on local rules that might make it d- — zoning rules that might make it different for these things to happen and how we can create incentives that are productive for everybody. 

And then it gets back to, for example, the student loan debt.  And what we have seen — we have — we have now forgiven over $150 billion in student loan debt.  (Applause.)  On average, we’re looking at somewhere around $70,000 per person.  And especially if we’re talking about people in public service — nurses, firefighters, teachers — and doubling the number for them. 

But — but one of the other things I’ve asked the leaders here in terms of helping me get the word out: Let people know they qualify for student loan debt [forgiveness] even if they never graduated.  That’s really important for folks to know. 

Because, you know, think about in terms of the logic of the policy.  Why is it that — that the case?  Because, sadly, they didn’t graduate, some people, because they couldn’t afford to keep paying tuition.  But they still have to pay back that loan. 

So, help us get the word out so that people apply.  And I guess that gets to the heart of this tour and everything else we’re doing.  Folks in a lot of situations just don’t know what’s available to them, and I need the help of the leaders who are here to get the word out so people know what is available to them.

MR. BILAL:  Well, that leads me to my next question.  I’m not sure if you already answered it or not, but I was going to ask about student loan and what the administration has done for — obviously, there’s millions of Americans that, once again, are suffocated with student loan debt and it’s really crippled their lives.

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  So, you know, I’ll tell you, we went bolder with this — our plan and — for student loan debt relief, and then the Court cut some of the stuff that we were doing.  But we have not stopped. 

And so, we are through whatever — and all of the powers that we have through executive orders and things of that nature been forgiving, again, up to f- — $150 billion of student loan debt. 

What I have seen in my travels around what this means for the people who have applied and figured it out, it’s extraordinary.  I mean, I’ve met people who have been forgiven, you know, three-digit thousands of dollars of debt.  I — I’ve met teachers who’ve been teaching for 20-something years, carrying that debt and not giving up the profession of teaching.  We don’t pay him enough as it is.  (Applause.)

And, you know — and so, thinking about that — and let’s think of ab- — you know, there were those who resisted the policy from the beginning and said, “Well, why do they need — they should pay off their loans.  Why do they need it forgiven?”

Well, let’s — let’s go back to the example of public servants — nurses, firefighters, teachers.  We — yes, we don’t pay them enough.  And do we — the people who have a calling to, for example, teach other people’s children, who pay for school supplies out of their own back pocket, and the benefit they give to all of us as a society, should we not think about that and think about the fact that we want them to stay in that noble profession?

I think about the number of young people who have a calling to do that kind of work, similar kind of work, who have to go to some other kind of job because they need to pay off their loans, when we want that people would be able to follow their passion, especially when it benefits all of us and uplifts society. 

So, the reasons behind the policy include just that. 

And, again, let’s just let people know that they don’t have to have graduated in order to — to get their debt forgiven, especially if that might mean that, if they want to go back to school, they can go back and — and know that they can afford to go back.

MR. MILLINGS:  Well — well, this is coming from a teacher — I say educator now — turned entrepreneur.  I couldn’t agree with you more.  Pay our teachers.  (Laughs.)  (Applause.)

First, I just want to thank you for this.  This has been an amazing opportunity.  But we do have entrepreneurs here in the building.  Where are our entrepreneurs at?  (Applause.)  There they go.

MR. BILAL:  Big Dave’s Cheesesteaks.  (Applause.) 

MR. MILLINGS:  That’s a fact.

MR. BILAL:  I see Isaac Hayes in the back.

MR. MILLINGS:  Shout-out to Isaac Hayes.

MR. BILAL:  He can’t sing as good as his dad, though.  (Laughter.)

MR. MILLINGS:  No, no.  We wouldn’t want him to, either.  (Laughter.) 

What piece of advice would you like to leave this audience? Like I said, this is — Atlanta is such a hub of innovation for many businesses, but what would you like to leave this audience with in terms of advice for entrepreneurship?

THE VICE PRESIDENT:  That you are worthy of and entitled to receive an investment in your dream and your ambition, and to seek out the resources that exist — and we’re trying to make it easier for you to find those resources — but seek them out.

And — and know — you know, it’s interesting, there’s some — there’s some studies that show that Black entrepreneurs are often less likely than others to actually apply for a loan for fear they will be rejected.  I mean, there’s pretty significant data that supports that point. 

So, part of my advice is: Go for it.  Apply for it. 

And — and all — and get the word out, right?  We don’t — we don’t lack for really incredible vision and — and entrepreneurial, creative thought.  And so, it’s just a matter of, like, let’s not let society or history impede or silence those ambitions. 

And then I would urge everyone to know, for example, community lenders and to seek them out. 

I was just earlier at RICE, and what’s happening there in terms of helping young entrepreneurs get ready and then have access.  I met this young brother; he’s now — he’s now going — he’s got a water company and is now going to be selling at Walmart.  Right? 

And so, there are institutions and places that are available to you, groups that are available, mentors here.

I would say to the entrepreneurs who are here: Make sure you — you talk to the person sitting next to you because they may just be that person who is willing to mentor you or willing to give you some advice about how they achieved their success. 

But don’t give up, because we need you.  Our country needs you.  And that’s how we’re going to be strong.  (Applause.)

And — and I would — I want to just put a fine point on it.  Be proud of your ambition.  Be proud of your ambition.  Have ambition.  Dream with ambition. 

Do not ever be burdened by other people’s limited ability to see what is possible.  Don’t let that burden you.  (Applause.)

You know, my mother always used to say to me, “Don’t you ever let anybody tell you who you are.  You tell them who you are.”  Right?  (Applause.)

I have another saying.  (Laughter.)  I eat “no” for breakfast.  (Laughter.)  I don’t hear “no” until maybe the 10th time.  Don’t hear “no.”  Don’t hear “no.”

MR. BILAL:  Madam Vice President, thank you for your time.

THE VICE PRESIDENT:   Thank you, thank you.  (Applause.)

END                       3:56 P.M. EDT

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