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P0128 on a Dodge Journey with 3.6L (Thermostat Location)

P0128 Code on a Dodge Journey

The 3.6-liter engine from Chrysler has become a headache for Dodge Journey owners. From a check engine light to losing coolant and leaking oil, the 3.6-liter engine has been a nightmare. In this article, we will look at a common leak that plagues the 3.6-liter engines.

A common trouble code (or DTC) that causes the check engine light is the code P-0128 (P0128).

P0128 Code on a Scan Tool on a Dodge Journey

What does error code P0128 mean on a Dodge Journey?

P0128 - Thermostat Rationality

The P0128 code indicates a problem with the cooling system (coolant system). The engine control module notices that the engine temperature is below where it should be operating within a specified amount of time.

The engine control module uses the engine coolant temperature sensor to monitor the engine's temperature. An engine coolant thermostat will regulate the amount of flow of coolant through the engine to obtain the optimal temperature.

A thermostat will stay closed until the engine reaches operating temperature. After the operating temperature is obtained, the thermostat and radiator fans will keep the engine's temperature in a specific range.

Thermostat Opening Temperature on a Dodge Journey

This thermostat opens at 203F.

What year did the Dodge Journey have the 3.6L engine?

The 3.6-liter engine was introduced in the 2011 Dodge Journey models and was available through the 2019 models.

What causes the P0128 code on a Dodge Journey?

The most common cause for the P0128 code on a Dodge Journey is a faulty thermostat.

A faulty thermostat can be what is described as a "stuck open thermostat."

Other issues can be low coolant, a bad radiator fan or water pump, an inaccurate engine coolant temperature sensor (ECT sensor), or a bad engine control module.

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How do I fix code P0128 on a Dodge Journey?

The best way to fix P0128 is to find the root cause of the problem and repair it.

A quick diagnostic process for a p0128 is:

Define the code

Check your coolant (with a cold engine. Never open the cooling system when the engine is hot)

Use a scan tool to monitor the temperature of the coolant and the length of time to reach normal operating temperature

Determine if the thermostat stays open

Replace the thermostat

Stuck open thermostat on a Dodge Journey

Where is the coolant thermostat and thermostat housing located on a Dodge Journey?

The thermostat and thermostat housing is located on the front of the 3.6-liter engine on the Dodge Journey.

Thermostat Location on a Dodge Journey

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What are some symptoms of the P0128 code?

Here are some symptoms of a P0128 code:

A check engine light

The temperature gauge (temp gauge) may not reach the proper operating temperature or normal range

Temperature gauge on a Dodge Journey

Cooling fans run constantly

Lack of heat or hot air coming out of the vents

Check engine light on a Dodge Journey

Can I still drive my car with a P0128 code?

Generally, you can drive with a P0128 code but always monitor the temperature gauge. You may notice that with this code, the temperature gauge will not reach normal operating temperature.

Light shining through gap in stuck open thermostat on a Dodge Journey

What are the tools I need to change this part?

Some tools that you will need are:

A socket set to remove the bad thermostat.

A set of pliers to remove the hose clamps that is on the upper radiator hose

New coolant to fill the coolant system and the overflow tank (You don't want to have low coolant)

Rag to clean the mating surface of the new thermostat.

Clean thermostat mating surface on a Dodge Journey

Coolant fill kit

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All of the air has to be removed from this Cooling System or engine damage will occur!

Make sure your engine’s coolant is filled to normal levels. Air in the cooling system can cause damage when the engine heats up.

The correct operating temperature can only be obtained if all the air is bled out of the cooling system.

Not knowing how to bleed the cooling system properly can take this easy job and make it a horrible nightmare.

Thermostat housing bleeder screw on a Dodge Journey

Caution - Hot Coolant

DO NOT work on a vehicle that has been operating for an extended period. The coolant in the cooling system can be extremely hot and cause severe burns. Always allow a hot engine to cool off before working on it.

You may want to wait until the next day for the engine to be completely cooled off.

If you have concerns, allow a professional mechanic to replace the part for you.

What other common problems can cause this code?

Although a faulty thermostat is the most likely solution for this code, there are other factors that can cause a P0128.

Other possible causes are:

Engine coolant temperature sensor (Coolant sensor or coolant temp sensor) - If the engine coolant temperature sensor reading is incorrect, it can report the wrong temperature to the powertrain control module (PCM). If the engine coolant temperature sensor reads 120 degrees F while the engine coolant is actually 190 degrees F, then that can cause a P0128.

Coolant level - If the coolant level is incorrect, there is a chance that it will cause a DTC P0128 (Diagnostic Trouble Code).

New thermostat on a Dodge Journey

When you get done installing the new thermostat, clear the trouble codes and monitor the coolant temperature with a compatible code reader. It should increase until it reaches the normal operating temperature.

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I have a 3.6L 2013 Dodge Journey.  I read an error code of p0128.  The coolant level is fine, the car does not take an overly long time to warm up, nor is it over heating.  I'm surmising that the issue is with the ECT.  I've been told it's a part of the oil filter assembly, but am seeing no way of accessing it.  Has anyone changed the ECT and can tell me how to do it?

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google p 0128 points to a faulty thermostat .

specifically, p0128, is coolant  temperature below thermostat regulating temp, which could be any of a number of issues.  I don't believe it is the thermostat at this time because I'm not having any running issues (over heating, under heating, failure/difficulty in shifting at freeway speeds).

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It is part of the oil filter assembly.  As to how to change it, I have no idea. 

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I just changed this on my '12 Journey with the 3.6.  It's located about halfway down the front of the block.  Threaded right into the block at an angle..  It's an easy swap and the part is under 20$.

P0128 indicates (in order): failed/failing thermostat, failed engine coolant temperature sensor, PCM update needed, low coolant, radiator fan not turning off, or faulty intake air temperature.

Thermostat can be tested "the old fashioned way" - squeeze the coolant hose (between thermostat and radiator) while the engine is cold - you should hear coolant moving and push the radiator cap, and you should see the overflow bottle level change as you do this.  Get the engine up to temp (10 minutes of driving should be more than enough) and touch the hose - it should uncomfortably hot, but not hot enough to burn (too quickly).  This is, of course, assuming you haven't paid someone to do that part already.

2013 Engine  Coolant Temperature Sensor should be part 5149077AB.  https://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Chrysler-5149077AB-Coolant-Temperature/dp/B00FYHR5DY

That part is not a piece of the oil filter housing.  Removal is a matter of locating the sensor (straight from a repair manual: "The Engine Coolant Temperature ( ECT ) sensor on the 3.6L engine is installed into a water jacket at rear of the cylinder head on the left side of the engine . "), remove the cable, and unbolt it from the engine block (deep socket, not sure what size).  You'll need to partially drain coolant  before you remove it.  Depending on your mileage, it might be time to think about a coolant flush anyway.  Otherwise, drain a gallon, then re-fill with new coolant (50/50 mix) when you have the sensor re-installed.

Installation is pretty straightforward - just put everything back together.  11 N*m (8 ft.lbs.) to install.  Use a PTFE thread sealant.  Add coolant , purge air, and you should be done.

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