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Work & Travel in Australia

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This is your chance to dive into Australia and truly live like a local . Spend up to a year working and traveling throughout Australia while experiencing lively cities , incredible wildlife , adventure sports , and engaging with new friends from all over the world!

Greenheart Travel’s program is ideal if you:

• Are between the ages of 18-30 and want to live abroad in a country known for its natural wonders.
• Looking for an adventure, and are open to working a variety of jobs.
• Are looking for the long-term study abroad experience that you never had.
• Want to meet a community of travelers like yourself!

Progr am at a Glance:

• Sufficient salary to live and travel!
• Assistance finding work in bars, restaurants, resorts, farms, and other short-term jobs.
• Group program start dates.
• Pre-departure and in-country support.
• Welcome Week in Sydney with excursions and group activities.
• Friends, couples, and siblings are welcome!

You must meet the following requirements to apply

• Citizen of one of the following: USA, Canada, UK, Ireland, EU.
• Must be eligible for a Working Holiday Visa.
• Be between the ages of 18-30* years old.
• Must be outside of Australia for the visa application process.
• Be a native English speaker or have near-native fluency.

Due to visa regulations for a Working Holiday Visa we cannot make exceptions to these requirements. These are put in place by the Australian government.

*The maximum age has been raised to 35 for certain countries in the EU and UK. Please check the Australian Government Department of Home Affairs website for more information. 

The Sydney Welcome Week starts on Mondays, so you’ll arrive on one of these dates:

Program Price: $1,690 USD

Packaged into Program Cost:

• Adventure welcome week in Sydney
• 6 months of international medical insurance
• Airport pickup and transfer to hostel
• 7 nights’ hostel accommodation (shared room) and breakfasts
• Group arrival orientation
• 1-on-1 job assistance service, support, and advice
• Bank account set up prior to arrival
• Resources and support for finding permanent housing
• Cellphone setup
• Australian SIM card
• Organized social events and activities
• Greenheart Atlas Program
• Greenheart Club Membership

Our Support and Services:

• Online logistical and cultural training before departure from an Experienced Travel Program Manager.
• 24 hour in-country emergency support for the duration of your program.
• Job and accommodation support for the full duration of your program, not just the duration of the welcome week!
• Visa Assistance as needed.
• Assistance preparing tax paperwork upon arrival and before departure home.
• Opportunity to apply for a Greenheart Grant to give back to your community at home or abroad.
• Highly experienced team of in-country support staff members.

Additional Expenses to Consider:

• Visa processing and fees (about $450 AUD- you will apply for your visa online)
• Flights and return transfers
• Lunch and dinner during Welcome Week
• Housing costs and living expenses (meals, utilities, etc.)
• Personal expenses

Wondering where exactly your program fee goes? Here is a breakdown.

Work Abroad Australia is a tremendous gap year option ! Our program is designed to have a structural component that assists our travelers with pre-departure and arrival logistics such as bank account setup, obtaining the equivalent of their Social Security number, finding accommodation, securing a job, and making friends! This work abroad program also allows for enough flexibility for travelers to experience self-discovery by choosing where they live, what jobs they secure, and when and where they would like to travel.

This is a great gap year program for you if you:

• Want a program centered around community.
• Are seeking guidance to help you navigate getting settled abroad, but desire the flexibility to work and travel on your own schedule.
• Enjoy outdoor activities.
• Are open to working a variety of jobs.
• Crave a travel abroad experience that lasts for 6-12 months.
• Are looking to add work abroad experience to your resume.

Skills and personal growth that our Greenheart Travelers have acquired while on program:

• Customer service
• Cross-cultural communication
• Agricultural
• Interpersonal
• Problem-solving
• Traveling know-how
• Strong sense of self
• Independence

The cost of living in Australia, especially in big cities like Sydney, is likely more than what you’re used to in your home country. So, it is important to budget accordingly to make sure you are financially prepared upon arrival and until you begin to make a regular paycheck.

Here is a rough estimate of your initial start-up costs (in USD):

Flight:                             $1,200

Program Fee:                $1,690

Visa:                                 $350

Savings:                        $3,394*

Total:                             $6,634

* this total amount is a requirement of the Working Holiday Visa, however, it is a good amount to have to make sure you have enough money to live comfortably until you start working.

Average Weekly Budget:

Your salary will depend on how often you decide to work and what work you end up getting into. However, you are guaranteed to make Australian minimum wage ($19.49 AUD/hour), and as long as you’re working 28-38 hours per week, you’ll be making enough to live and travel on.

Wages and rent are paid weekly which makes budgeting your paychecks much easier:

These weekly costs will, of course, depend on your personal spending habits, where you live, how many hours you work, and if your job provides a higher pay/accommodation, but you should expect to be able to save some of your paycheck every week.

Although you will most likely spend any extra cash on travel opportunities in between jobs, you have the potential to make back your start up costs:

Monthly Savings =                               $410.20 AUD

Yearly Savings =                                   $4,922.40 AUD

During your first week in Sydney, you’ll have 7 days of activities and excursions where you’ll get to know fellow travelers and enjoy your introduction to this gorgeous country!

Monday: Check in, chill out and relax in preparation for a big week ahead! You will meet your group leader and the rest of your group, plus familiarize yourself with the team. You will also get a brief overview on what’s going to happen for the week ahead. Later you will visit a party bar for your Welcome Dinner!

Tuesday: After a good night’s sleep, join the comprehensive info / welcome orientation session where you’ll learn everything you need to know about working and travelling around Australia. Our team in Australia are all experienced travelers and have started where you are now. After the welcome orientation session, you’ll head to the city tour which kicks off at 11am.

You will see the Sydney Harbour Bridge & the Opera House and take a trip down to the Botanical Gardens. At the same time, you’ll be getting to know your new mates in Australia and taking some awesome photos to make your mates back home jealous!

Later, you will experience a different side of Sydney! During the evening the group will go for a relaxed walk through the historical suburbs of Sydney. On this walk, you’ll see some of the Indigenous and early European history of Sydney, one of the most multicultural parts of Australia.

Wednesday: You’ll start off the day attending a job search seminar to learn lots of tips and tricks about job search in Australia, then you’ll go for a cruise on Sydney Harbour. Spend the rest of the day cruising, swimming, and chilling on Sydney Harbour! You’ll also get to enjoy your first Aussie BBQ on deck!

Thursday: You can’t come to Sydney and not visit the Blue Mountains! This morning, you’ll escape the city and travel to the Blue Mountains National Park, a short drive from Sydney. Enjoy hiking, visit waterfalls, spot wild kangaroos, and take in some of the Bluey’s spectacular views!

Friday: Happy Friday! You will visit Sydney’s famous cliff-top coastline and walk from Coogee to Bondi beach. You’ll explore six beaches along the way! It’s the perfect way to take multiple swims or work on your tan before taking in the sights of Bondi!

Saturday: Immerse yourself in the true-blue Aussie tradition that is ‘catching a wave’ at our half day group surf lessons. Our qualified and local surf guide will teach you the ins and outs of surfing with ocean safety, surfing techniques, warm-up, and time in the water. You’ll be gliding along a wave in no time. After a day at the beach, you’ll get dressed up for a fun night on the town! Meet the group at one of our favorite party bars before starting our Sydney Pub Crawl.

Sunday: Your first week down under comes to an end. The itinerary is over, but your adventure continues – on Sunday our team will assist you with any remaining questions you’ve got and also onward travel planning.

*** Welcome week activities are subject to change based on seasonality.

During your first week in Sydney, you’ll attend a brief orientation to prepare you for your job and housing search. Before you arrive, your bank account will already be opened – you won’t have to research Australian banks or finalize your account. Instead, the team will have prepared all of your paperwork in advance. They will also set you up for the Australian tax system and give you your Tax ID so you file taxes before you leave.

During orientation you will meet the team and get all the information necessary to start planning your time in Australia. You will learn about life in Australia, when to work, where to work, where to travel and when to travel.

At orientation, you will:

• Learn about Australian culture!
• Review the yearly job market; what jobs are abundant and where.
• Be introduced to online job boards for future jobs.
• Sign up for any required courses you may need to be eligible for work, like the RSA (Responsible Service of Alcohol) if you plan to work in environments where you serve alcohol (resorts, bars, cruise ships)*
• Receive assistance in finding short or long term accommodation.
• Receive tax ID and learn how to file taxes when you leave the country.

*These courses may or not be available, as not all services are fully up and running

Job Consultation

You will have the opportunity to meet with a job consultant and talk about your resume, what other skills you may have that aren’t listed on your resume, and to set your expectations for the type of work that you would be best suited for.

After the job consultant gets to know you a little better, you will be put on an Availability List along with all the other travelers. This list shows who is available to work, what their skills and preferences are as well as who is traveling and unavailable for work. This list is constantly changing as 50-60 employers call every day looking for employees to start working ASAP.

Our in-country staff will call you to let you know when you have been matched with a job, which you can take or turn down. Travelers who are open minded to the work they do may start working the day after they are placed on the Availability list, where others may hold out for their preferred position or decide to travel first. If you’re looking to work, you should expect to have a job within 2-3 weeks.

You may use this method to find work later in the year, though most travelers prefer to use the online job board to find subsequent work, especially if they have relocated outside of Sydney.

Most of your job opportunities will be in the Sydney area and in the southern region of Australia around Melbourne, Brisbane, and Cairns. Resort and agriculture jobs are offered in the Northern Territory, New South Wales, Queensland, and Victoria. Greenheart Travel’s partner has professional relationships with trusted employers around Australia who pay fair wages and alert us whenever they have positions available.

What are the most common job types?

Hospitality, customer service, and office work are by far the most common job type as Australian companies report that the high level of service in the US and Canada tends to produce workers who are well-suited for these types of positions.

Seasonal work in amusement parks, resorts, and on offshore cruises, etc. are great positions for more consistent and long-term jobs (3-6 months) where jobs in restaurants, bars, hostels, and hotels are widely available for shorter contracts.

Working on farms and WWOOFing (World Wide Opportunities on Organic Farms) are also popular among Working Holiday travelers who want to experience a different type of work outside of a city.

Can I change jobs while I am there?

Yes. Many jobs are seasonal, so it is likely you will hold more than one job in your host country. Also, visa requirements dictate that you will not be allowed to work for a given employer for a period longer than six months. Due to these factors, most Work and Travel travelers hold 2-3 jobs over the duration of their stay, which is a great way to travel to different parts of the country and experience as much authentic Aussie culture as you can!

You will have access to an online job board which will enable you to check employment postings wherever you are. You should also call or visit the Center in Sydney regularly to keep informed of new work opportunities.

Greenheart Traveler, Ashana, and her fruit picking co-workers!

There are advantages of applying for this program through us:

• 33 years of experience with cultural exchange programs.
• Friendly, responsive, and professional support from your program manager!
• We make our program fees as inclusive as possible. We include things like extensive medical insurance for the duration of the program, airport pickup, and extensive pre-departure and on-program support, so you’re not on your own for any part of your adventure.
• Our alumni recommend us! GoAbroad.com Reviews
• Exclusive access to the Greenheart Atlas, our interactive program that will guide you through your cultural immersion experience before, during, and after your program.
• Hands on support and personal attention every step of the way.
• 24/7 emergency phone number to reach a staff member at any time.
• Pre-departure “Culture Shock and Adjustment” Webinar before you leave.
• Discounts for future Greenheart Travel programs.
• We are a non-profit, mission based organization.
• Continued support throughout your program.

We also have some unique offerings to our Greenheart Travel participants and alumni!

• Greenheart Grants: Greenheart Grants are funds awarded to Greenheart Travel participants to use for community development projects in their host or home country. A Greenheart Grant is the opportunity to create, improve, or maintain an impactful, community-focused project abroad or at home. Grant funds could be applied to supporting women’s cooperatives, schools, community centers, or health clinics, for example. Grant winners will be featured on our website, social media, and blog. You can see our past winners on our blog here.
• Greenheart Alumni Program: We created the Greenheart Travel Alumni Program to provide resources and a community to support alumni in their advancement as global leaders, and a way to celebrate and reward our participants for being ambitious, inspiring catalysts of cultural exchange!
• Greenheart Global Leaders Conference: Each August Greenheart offers full ride scholarships to over 40 alumni to attend our annual conference in Washington, DC. Participants even get a chance to advocate for cultural exchange in a presentation to the US Department of State. You can see more about what GGLC is and what you could do at the conference here.

Read more about why people are choosing Greenheart Travel: Why Choose Greenheart Travel? 

What will my first week look like?

Your first week is a time of exploration, preparation, and fun!

All programs begin on Thursdays. The program start date that you select from our website will be your arrival date. Our travelers use this time to settle into their accommodation, review their itinerary for the week, explore a bit, and recharge for the rest of the welcome week ahead!

The next 6 days will be dedicated to reviewing job resources, becoming familiar with local transportation, learning about housing, solidifying tax documents, meeting new friends, and getting to know Australia!

Where will I live during welcome week?

We have all of our travelers meet up at a hostel in the center of Sydney so everyone can get acquainted! For the first week you will live in shared hostel accommodation.

Where will I live when I am hired?

Shared flats, hostels, Airbnbs, and homestays are all potential accommodation options based on the lifestyle you would like to lead (i.e. backpacker or sedentary).

Some jobs, especially those on resorts and farms, include housing or subsidized housing. Our in-country partner does take housing requests within the Sydney and Melbourne area. Regardless of where you plan to live, they are happy to provide guidance and resources to help you find accommodation.

As a note, Sydney generally has the highest cost-of-living. In Sydney, you will likely pay $160-$200 for a shared room per week. If you want your own room, it is more expensive. If you are staying a while, think about renting an apartment with some friends or moving in with some Aussies, as it is generally the cheapest option. However, some jobs will only be short term (1-2 months) and it can be difficult to find a short or open lease, so you may need to spend more towards $200 AUD/week to stay at a hostel. Melbourne and other major cities have a lower cost of living than in Sydney, but most jobs are available in and around Sydney.

Do I have to stay for the full 12 months?

No, you don’t have to stay for the full 12 months.

We recommend that our travelers plan a trip that is 3 months or longer, but it isn’t mandatory. In our experience, we find that it takes our travelers a month or so to get acclimated in their new surroundings. The first few weeks are used to secure jobs, accommodation, and tax information. Having a handful of months in Australia will allow you to fully settle in, work, and travel comfortably.

If you’re looking for programs that range from 1, 2, or 3 months, take a look at a few of these program options:

• Work Abroad Argentina 
• Thailand Business Internship
• Homestay Abroad 

How long does it take the get a job?

This varies. During the busy season when lots of jobs are available, sometimes several job prospects are already awaiting you when you arrive and you can start work right away. Other times it can take up to 6 weeks. Usually if there is a delay it is because you have rejected initial job prospects because they did not meet your expectations for some reason.

Can I get a career-oriented job?

The visa you’ll get only allows you to work at any one job for 6 months or less. Since employers looking to fill high-skill positions generally want someone for longer than that, it’s unlikely (although not impossible) that you’d get a more professional or high-skilled position. This program caters to people looking for a more casual work experience, and who are more focused on travel.

Can I work for longer than one year?

United States citizens are eligible for a second Working Holiday visa if they spend 3 months working in Northern Australia in one of the following industries:

• plant and animal cultivation
• fishing and pearling
• tree farming and felling
• tourism and hospitality

This means you could work for three months in one place, then have 21 more months to work and travel as you please in Australia! Our in-country staff will help you secure this type of work if you’re interested in taking advantage of this policy.

Will I need a car?

No, public transportation is widely available in Australia, especially within the cities and urban areas.

Will I meet other travelers?

Yes, we’ve designed this as a group program! Each start date allows for up to 25 travelers.

Our welcome week includes an orientation in addition to numerous group activities that allow you to meet a bunch of individuals who are also looking to work and travel throughout the country. Since you’re all on the same program, you’ll already have a lot in common!

What qualities does Greenheart Travel look for in Australia Work Abroad applicants?

We look for applicants that are open-minded, flexible, adventurous, hardworking, and communicative!

Open-mindedness and flexibility are qualities that we seek because it is not uncommon that travelers work 2-3 jobs during their stay abroad. Not everyone will start off with their dream job, BUT everyone gains valuable experience—the more open-minded you are, the sooner you will find work!

Adventurous individuals are great for this program because Australia provides ample opportunity for travelers to be engaged in nature and participate in exciting activities.

We seek hardworking and communicative individuals because each traveler must be willing to do their share of work in order to solidify housing and employment. Our team works hard to assist and support our travelers, but travelers must be willing to attend job interviews and communicate with our team abroad.

1.   Start Your Application  Here .  You will be sent more information as well as the link to our application portal to begin your formal application.

2. Submit Basic Program Information:  The first step in our application portal will be basic things like your chosen start date, etc.

3. Submit your Application Fee : A $300 fee is required in order to apply for the program. This is subtracted from your total program fee. If we are unable to accept you following your interview (very unlikely!) we will refund your application fee in full.

4.   Complete Application & Documents :  Provide more detailed information about yourself in Part 2 of the application. In this section, you’ll tell us more information like your work history, motivations for joining the program, travel history, and emergency contacts. You will also submit your documents (below) within your portal account.

5.   Zoom Interview: Once you have submitted your online application and paid your application fee, you will be asked to schedule a video interview with a Greenheart Travel representative.

6. You’re Accepted!  Woohoo! We are usually able to accept people within 1-2 weeks of their interviews.

7. Commitment Payment: Once you are accepted to the program, you will need to submit a $300 commitment payment within 14 days to confirm your spot on the program. Once you submit your commitment payment you will unlock the acceptance portion of your portal, which includes things like pre-departure videos, travel and arrival information, the Greenheart Travel Atlas, and more.

9. Book your flights, and get ready for your adventure to Australia! The rest of your balance is due 60 days before you leave.

The above process can take as little as 1 week to complete, so it’s up to you how quickly you’re able to complete each step.

Take a glimpse into life in Australia through some Greenheart Traveler’s photos. Make sure to also check out #greenhearttravel on Instagram for more!

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Want access to our Facebook group to talk with travelers on this program? Click here! ​

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A step-by-step guide to getting started.

You want to head to Australia but not sure where to start?

We understand that taking the first step may be daunting. That's why having AIFS on the ground makes good sense. How to find work, where to look for accommodation and planning your travel - we can help you.

You will have access to AIFS' full range of services and support; we can place you in work before you leave home, or help you find a job after you arrive. Our arrival orientation walks you through tax, work, and living in Australia, delivered by staff who have travelled throughout Australia themselves.

I think I was a bit shocked the size of Australia. I realized that my travel plans were not going to work. AIFS sat down with me and worked out a plan to suit my budget. I was really happy how it worked out. Jake

We pride ourselves on being upfront and honest about our fees so you know exactly the costs, where your fees go, what's included and what's not. Our package includes all the essentials that you’ll need plus a few extras to make sure you have the best experience possible.

Lock in your job before you leave or use the AIFS' Job Desk after you arrive. We provide expert advice including one-on-one consultations and CV checking service.

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You may know AIFS from our other global programs; Camp America, Au Pair in America or AIFS Study abroad - to name a few. Whether you have previously done an AIFS program, or it is your first time with us, you can rest easy that you are travelling with a company that has over 55 years’ experience sending people across the globe. In fact, in any given year over 55,000 people travel the globe with AIFS. Click here to learn more.

Australia's working holiday visa opens up to those over 30 years

Jul 3, 2023 • 5 min read

Jobs in the agricultural sector are abundant – and can be demanding if highly rewarding © Jason Edwards / Getty Images

If you think you missed out on the "gap year" or working holiday experience because of the global lockdowns in 2020 and 2021, we have some good news.

Since  Australia   reopened its borders  in 2022 it has been experiencing labor shortages in a host of industries. In response, the government has just increased the eligibility for some working holiday makers from 30 to 35 years to attract more workers Down Under.

And there's more: the range of jobs available to working holiday makers in Australia means taking a year out to work and travel doesn't have to derail your career (something the gap year naysayers might tell you).

Keen to  spend a year or two living, working and traveling in Australia  in 2023 or 2024? Read on for everything you need to know to make it happen. 

What are the new rules for working holiday makers in Australia?

As of 1 July 2023, citizens of the UK, Canada, France, Denmark, Italy and Ireland are eligible to apply for an Australian Working Holiday visa up to the age of 35. For the other 40 countries participating in the program , the 30 year age restriction remains for now.

Industry groups are calling on the Australian government to go further and lift the age of working holiday visas to 50 years to help plug skills gaps, especially in management level roles, but nothing has been decided yet.

Some of the requirements for extending the visa beyond an initial 12 months (such as undertaking farm work) will also be dropped for British passport holders from 1 July 2024 as part of the Australia–UK Free Trade Agreement.

Commenting on the changes, Sally Cope, Tourism Australia’s Regional General Manager for UK & Northern Europe said, “Every year, more than 35,000 young Brits head to Australia to work and play, the Aussie way.

"Our research reveals close to half of 25- to 34-year-olds are considering working abroad to advance their careers, so this five-year age range increase presents a world of openings to these young professionals.

"Australia also offers an incredible lifestyle – where else can you be in the boardroom at 4pm and by the beach an hour later? We’re sure there are many 30–35-year-olds who thought they had missed their chance to live and work Down Under, who will jump at this exciting prospect; and Australia is ready to welcome them.”

So, is there a downside? Well, while eligibility has increased – so has cost of the Working Holiday Maker visa, rising from AU$510 to AU$640 from 1 July. Perhaps it's a government incentive to stick around for longer and make the most of the opportunities in Australia.

How long does it take to get a working holiday visa?

Provided you have an up-to-date passport, satisfy the age requirement (which varies by citizenship ), have some savings, and meet the health and character requirements for a Working Holiday visa , you can apply immediately. 

As long as you have all the necessary documentation ready, visa approvals can be turned around in less than a day. 

How long can I work in Australia?

To extend your initial 12-month Australian Working Holiday visa for a second year (and even a third year), most travelers need to do at least 12 weeks (3 months) in a "specified industry" and/or region. These are places where workers are most needed in Australia: farming, fisheries, construction or remote-area tourism gigs. 

However this requirement is changing in 2024 for British travelers thanks for a reciprocal agreement between the two nations. 

The former rule that you can only work for one employer for a maximum of six months is being reinstated, after a temporary amnesty. This was a condition industry wants removed, particularly in more remote locations where it's harder to attract good staff. Workers take time to learn the ropes, and to build strong relationships. 

To further entice willing workers, the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry’s tourism group is encouraging employers to stump up the visa fees (AU$640) to get people over to fill their job vacancies.

If you're applying for a job from home while applying for your visa, there's no harm in asking your future employer to help you out with the fee.

What jobs are there in Australia for working holiday makers?

Matthew Heyes of Backpacker Job Board , Australia’s largest recruitment website for working holiday makers, says, “Job opportunities for working holiday makers are widespread, covering a range of different sectors. There are fruit-picking…and other agricultural-based [jobs], which are really popular because these roles contribute to the second- and third-year visa-extension program. The roles are also seasonal and offer the opportunity to earn well while the seasons are high. 

“Other cornerstones of backpacker employment include au pair work, plus sales and marketing positions as well as other broader hospitality jobs.”

A strong Australian dollar is another key incentive for workers who might be seeing their local currency tanking. Work hard enough and save well, and you could go home with some major dollars in the bank – that is, if you don’t spend it all having the time of your life traveling around Australia.  

I'm over 40, can I work in Australia for a year?

The proposal to extend the maximum age for the Working Holiday visa to 50 has certainly piqued a lot of interest. The mid-career sabbatical – sometimes called an “adult gap year” – was already gaining traction before the pandemic.

The global shutdown also saw a lot of people reviewing what is important in life. Taking a year out from an established career to work, travel and meet new people is just the kind of radical change many now crave in place of being tied to a screen all day.

Matthew Heyes sees the potential for extending the age for working holiday . “It will completely change what it is to be a backpacker,” he says. “No longer will it be confined to the youth travel market. We could see a more diverse profile of traveler in Australia’s adventure travel sector. I believe this could be a huge win for Australia.

“If it goes ahead, it will also introduce a workforce to Australia who have a broad wealth of skills and qualifications. Their career experience would benefit the Australian economy.” 

Doing something really different – whether working outside or in a public-facing role – somewhere as friendly, safe and beautiful as Australia could be the adventure of a lifetime. No matter your age.

This article was first published January 2023 and updated July 2023

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A Working Holiday Visa in Australia is a great way for young travelers to live and work in the country for up to one year. To be eligible, you must be at least 18 years old but not yet 31, and hold a passport from an eligible country. You must also be able to show that you have sufficient funds to support yourself during your stay in Australia. Once you have your visa, you are free to work and travel throughout the country for up to one year. There are no restrictions on where you can live while in Australia on a Working Holiday Visa, so you can choose to live and work in a variety of different cities and regions. If you're planning a gap year or just want to experience life in Australia for a while, a Working Holiday Visa is a great option.

For more information about working holiday visas, click this link for our detailed guidance for a working holiday in Australia:

If you want to explore your working holiday destination more upon arrival, you may add our optional activities to your booking. Whether you'd like to brave a Skydive, a Bungy Jump, go White Water Rafting, visit the Daintree Rainforest or extend your stay in Cairns, we're here to help you plan the trip of a lifetime! You can pre-book optional activities guaranteeing availability on your chosen when you arrive in Australia! Check out some of our popular optional extras and add them to your booking at checkout.

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STARTING IN PERTH

On a working holiday in Perth, you can relax on the serene white-sand beaches and immerse yourself in the bustling art galleries, historic neighbourhoods and epic events. Outside Perth are plenty of opportunities to work in wineries and make good money!

WHERE WE STAY? Hostel G OUR FAVOURITE DAY ACTIVITIES: Rottnest – Day trip to Rottnest OUR FAVOURITE SOCIAL BAR: Mustangs – (Wednesday Nights)

STARTING IN CAIRNS

As the gateway to the Great Barrier Reef, Cairns offer plenty of jobs in the Marine and Tourism industries. Casual and seasonal workers are always in high demand in the Cairns region and surrounds and a low cost of living and there are many reasons to consider a working holiday in Cairns.

WHERE WE STAY? Gilligans OUR FAVOURITE DAY TRIPS: Cape tribulation OUR FAVOURITE SOCIAL BARS: PJ O’briens

STARTING IN GOLD COAST

The Gold Coast is known for its skyrise, which sits on one of the longest beaches in Australia. It has an amazing vibe and is a great place to complete a working holiday or a gap year with countless job opportunities for travellers. It hosts Surfers Paradise, one of Australia’s most iconic surf spots!

WHERE WE STAY?: Bunk Surfers Paradise OUR FAVOURITE DAY TRIPS: Surf lesson Surfers Paradise – Sand or paddle boarding OUR FAVOURITE SOCIAL BAR: Finn McCools

STARTING IN MELBOURNE

Melbourne’s street art and vibrant nightlife are the best in Australia. Located in Victoria, this metropolitan city has endless entertainment on offer and is known as Australia’s Cultural Hub. Often compared to London, Melbourne is an amazing spot to get work while in Australia!

WHERE WE STAY? Selina Melbourne OUR FAVOURITE DAY TRIPS: Great Ocean Road OUR FAVOURITE BAR: Cookie Bar

STARTING IN BRISBANE

The relaxed city life in Brisbane is a true Aussie welcome into the start of your Gap Year. Queensland, or the ‘Sunshine State’ spans 6,973 km and is known for its sub tropical climate and for being home to the Great Barrier Reef. This is a great starting location to explore the Coast from Brisbane to Cairns.

WHERE WE STAY? Selina Hostel Brisbane OUR FAVOURITE DAY TRIPS: Moreton Island – Snorkelling OUR FAVOURITE SOCIAL BARS: Prohibition

STARTING IN SYDNEY

Sydney’s iconic landmarks and beautiful coastline make it an awesome city to start your Gap Year. The Opera House, Bondi Beach and stunning weather have made Sydney the most popular arrival city for international arrivals. Accommodation and Employment is available year round in various sectors and locations.

WHERE WE STAY? Wake-up Sydney OUR FAVOURITE DAY TRIPS: Coogee to Bondi (free) OUR FAVOURITE SOCIAL BARS: El Camino to Argyle – Argyle Friday

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If you are eligible for a Working Holiday Visa, you can come and work in Australia for up to 12 months. Only certain countries are available for a 417 and 462 Working Holiday Visa. To see if you hold a permitted passport, check out the eligibility requirements  here .

Travelling to Australia with UltimateOz is easy as! Here’s what you need to do:

• Arrange a  Working Holiday Visa
• Book your UltimateOz Sydney Arrival Package plus any other UltimateOz trips & tours
• Book your flights to Australia
• Arrange a travel insurance policy by clicking here
• Pack your bag, grab your passport & camera and jump on that plane!

Working Travel and Arrival Packages are the perfect way to make friends as soon as you arrive in Australia! Many people who travel with us arrive solo, but by the end of the first week, you'll have a whole group of new friends to stay in touch with for the rest of your trip. You'll have loads of fun and get to know each other during your first week together. And when your arrival package comes to an end, our crew is here to provide resources and help you find accommodation or plan your travels around Australia with your new mates. You can also chat with other travelers via our Facebook group.

Once you've booked your Work and Travel Arrival Package, we'll send you a confirmation email filled with exciting details about your upcoming trip to Australia. As your departure date gets closer, we'll touch base again with all the info you need to make your journey smooth and stress-free. Just let us know your flight number and we'll handle the rest. Get ready to explore the beautiful Land Down Under and make unforgettable memories!

Working Travel and Arrival packages include 12-Month job support to help you get started in your new adventure. During your first week in Sydney, we'll provide you with valuable information on finding work in Australia, including tips on where to look, how to apply, and what you can expect to earn. We'll also give you access to the Travellers At Work job database, so you can start applying for jobs right away. And if you need any additional guidance, just swing by for a one-on-one session with one of our in-house work and travel experts. They can review your CV and help you tailor your application to suit Australian employers. Get ready to start your new career Down Under!

As a working holidaymaker in Australia you may be eligible to receive a tax refund. Our tax refund experts will help you with everything, so you’ll get the maximum refund possible. When you leave Australia, we can also help you claim your superannuation refund too.

As a holder of a Working Holiday Visa, you have the freedom to live wherever you'd like in Australia. Whether you're interested in Cairns, Perth, Melbourne, Sydney, or Brisbane, our Working Holiday and Arrival Package can help you get settled in your new home. The package includes your first three nights' accommodation, and during this time, we'll introduce you to the online platforms commonly used to find more permanent housing in Australia. Get ready to explore all that the Land Down Under has to offer!

To obtain a 2nd year visa extension, you must complete three months (or 88 days) of work in a regional part of Australia. The Crew at Ultimate can assist you in your 2nd year visa jobs search and lots of 2nd year visa jobs are available on www.taw.com.au. Read more about Regional Work here.

Medicare is Australia’s governmental public health policy. If you are on a Working Holiday Visa you may be eligible to be covered by Medicare for the duration of your stay in Australia. Medicare is an add on, not a replacement for any other insurances you may have so you still need to have valid travel insurance! Citizens of the UK, Sweden, Finland, Norway, the Netherlands, Belgium, the Republic of Ireland and New Zealand are covered for the duration of their approved visa time in Australia. Citizens of Malta and Italy are covered by Medicare for a period of 6 months from their date of arrival in Australia. All other countries unfortunately are not eligible for Medicare support but as long as you have travel insurance you’ll be covered!

The local currency in Australia is the Australian Dollar (AUD). It's important to have access to enough funds to support yourself during the initial stage of your holiday in Australia, and you may be asked to provide evidence of this upon arrival. If you're planning a gap year, we recommend arriving in Australia with at least AUD 5,000. The amount you'll need will depend on your travel plans and length of stay in Australia. As part of the Working and Travel package, you'll have the opportunity to open an Australian bank account before you arrive. We'll send you a link and all the necessary details about four weeks before your arrival package is set to begin.

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As a guide, we recommend you budget an additional $40 - $60AUD per day for spending money . Please note that all travellers are different and you may wish to travel with additional spending money. There are amazing optional activities and food options on offer on the East Coast and if you desire to experience most of them, you may wish to budget for additional spending money.

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Work & Travel Australia

Experience living and working in austrailia.

While a working holiday in Australia is quite a new concept for Americans, it’s a rite of passage, a matter of when, not if, for many young people across the globe. Their friends and family have done it and exclaim ‘you just have to do it’. A working holiday in Australia can offer you so much, it allows you to get out of our comfort zone, experience living and working in a new country, meeting new people, picking up new skills and broadening your horizons and opinions on matters further afield than your front door. A working holiday in Australia is a truly life changing experience that can only benefit you on a personal, and professional level. For an employer, someone that has done a working holiday, demonstrates that they are adaptable, independent, flexible, dynamic, organized, can think on their feet and isn’t overawed by new challenges.

So Why Australia?

Australia has so much to offer. This is a country that is home to:

• The Great Barrier Reef
• Global cities such as Sydney and Melbourne
• K’Gari (Fraser Island), world’s biggest sand island
• Uniquely incredible wildlife such as koalas and kangaroos
• It’s a place where you can surf, ski and scuba dive, all within a week if you want!

So how does a working holiday in Australia work?

Americans are able to get a Work and Holiday visa ($462AUD). Some facts about the visa:

• It is for people between 18-30: This is a pretty big age gap and gives a lot of people the opportunity to participate.
• It lasts 12 months (initially): This is great as it means that you have time to experience working in different places, as well as travel around, ticking off your Aussie bucket list.
• It can be extended: By doing specified work (rural work, tourism and hospitality) in specific areas, you’re eligible to get a 2nd and 3rd year visa.
• The 2nd and 3rd year visas don’t have to be used immediately: This is great because it means you can complete your first year and the specified work within it, then decide whether you immediately extend your visa or return at another time.
• The Wages Are High: Australian wages are very good. The minimum wage is $19.83AUD for full- time work and $25.41AUD for casual work.
• Businesses love internationals: So many different businesses love to enrich their workforce by employing the working holiday participants. This works especially well in seasonal jobs.
• There are so many other people just like you: Over 200,000 a year do a working holiday in Australia.

Watch this video and be inspired by fellow Americans that recently did a working holiday in Australia.

Job Opportunities

In-depth, customized employment help.

Understandably, getting a job is something that is on the front of people’s minds. You’ll be in a new country, with no contacts and no previous work experience there.  Welcome to Travel’s founders were previously working holiday makers and they understand your needs and wants firsthand. They’ve used their, their team’s and all of their travelers’ experience to create in depth, customized employment help for when you arrive.

This includes

• An employment presentation
• CV/Resume Writing Help
• Interview Questions Help
• Australia workplace specific advice
• Access to a live job portal
• A 2-hour employment and travel advice 1:1 meeting (on tour)
• Access to an employer database
• Regular job opportunities emailed
• Monthly Work and Travel Drop in Clinics

Just like the accommodation help, as long as you’re in Australia, our partner Welcome to Travel will be able to help with your employment needs. A lot of people also want to know what they can earn when in Australia.

Hospitality is a hugely popular sector for people on a working holiday. Australia doesn’t have a tipping culture and the tip you’d expect in the US, is already factored into wages in Australia, where wages are high.

The minimum wage is:

• Part-Time/Full-Time: $19.83AUD
• Casual Work: $25.41AUD

We’ve explained more on wages and cost of living in these really helpful blogs and vlogs here:

• The Positive Change to Fruit Picking Wages
• The Big Mac Equation
• How does Australia’s Minimum Wage Compare?

On the IENA Work & Travel Australia Program, you can take any job you are qualified to do, but can only work for the same employer for six months’ maximum. Work and Holiday Visa holders can take casual incidental work to supplement their income while exploring this amazing country. If you would prefer to stay in one location, that is okay too! It’s your choice! We have hundreds of live job listings which are no more than 3 weeks old. Find current job listings .

I think this program is an amazing opportunity for inner growth and I would recommend it to anyone who wants a life-changing experience.

Accommodations

Welcome week.

Our Partner – Welcome to Travel’s Hosts Welcome Weeks which include 7 nights dorm accommodation. Having your first week is such a great feeling as it means you can relax and get used to a Country and City, with that added support. Not only this but they are also able to help organize your accommodation before and after the tour, whether that’s another night in the same hostel, or a week’s accommodation 3500km away. Not only can they do that, they offer advice on longer term accommodation in an apartment/house in Australia. As long as you’re in Australia, Welcome to Travel is able to help with your accommodation needs.

To give you an idea on the cost of accommodation, check out our estimates below:

• Extra hostel night with Welcome to Travel: $35AUD
• Long term hostel: $165-$220 AUD a week
• Room in an apartment: $180-$250AUD a week

Travel Information

What to see in australia.

Enough about working, let’s talk about travelling around this incredible country. The best thing about Australia’s high wages is it means more money to experience more things, in more places!

From surf to desert to city, Australia really does have it all and the list of travelling opportunities is well and truly endless. Australia’s golden trail for travelers is the East Coast. The traditional East Coast route is the 2500km of road stretching from Melbourne to Cairns.

There are thousands of backpackers and students on their own journey but on a similar path, getting the experiences they want to. This journey includes all of those places you’ve heard of such as:

• Surfers Paradise
• Fraser Island
• Whitsundays
• Magnetic Island

On this route you can experience incredible things such as:

• Surf world class surf beaches
• Visit 1 of 2 Everglades National Parks
• Watch sunset in Australia’s most easterly point
• Drive a 4WD around the world’s biggest sand island
• Spend 2 days/2 nights on the Whitsunday Islands, visiting the World’s Best Beach
• Snorkel or Scuba Dive The Great Barrier Reef
• Visit the World’s Oldest Rainforest

With so many travelers in Australia, there are plenty of great options for travelling around. You can choose to travel the East Coast in a car or campervan rental with friends, or by taking the bus. The bus is perfect for solo travelers as the ticket last for 3 months and lets you get off in one town, explore the place for a few days before getting back on the bus to the next town when you’d like to move on. This is called a Hop-On Hop Off bus pass and it’s extremely cost effective.

Once again, this throws up many questions and there are so many different things you can do. Welcome to Travel’s expertise really has no limits and they help with every single aspect of travelling Australia. You may want to book a 5 week East Coast trip, 1 day car hire in Brisbane, a 5 day Scuba Diving Trip on the Great Barrier Reef or a 3 month Campervan hire around the country, they can help with any of it.

Welcome to Travel is a great place to learn more about the East Coast, as well as get in touch for help on the adventure you’d like to take. Don’t worry if you’d like help travelling to somewhere other than the East Coast, they can do that too.

Frequently Asked Questions

If you’re looking to be inspired whilst also learning about Australia, check out Welcome to Travel’s helpful blogs and videos .

Questions About Traveling

Yes, you do! If you’re coming here just as a tourist to visit Australia, you’ll need a Visitor Visa. If you’re coming here to work while you’re on holiday, you’ll need either a Working Holiday Visa ($417AUD) or a Work and Holiday Visa ($462AUD), depending on which country you’re from. Find more information and a list of the various visas .

Questions About a Working Holiday in Australia

Our Partner – Welcome to Travel will provide exclusive tips, resources, and guidance towards finding a job and farm work in Australia.

They will provide you with all the basic information needed to get started, and give you access to Their huge database of employers and contacts in sectors such as hospitality, retail, construction, sales and marketing and many more. This is all before having a 1-on-1 meeting with them, where they will go over how they can specifically help you find work. They also send out a weekly update email that highlights the most recent job and farm work opportunities they come across.

Do I have to do farm/regional work? No! However, if you are on a working holiday visa ($417AUD) and want to extend your visa to a 2nd or even a 3rd year, then you would need to do some specified work, often farm work/rural work. All the necessary specifications can be found on the government website. How do I get a 2nd year and 3rd visa?

If you are on a Working Holiday Visa ($417AUD) or Work and Holiday Visa ($462AUD) then you need to complete at least 3 months of specified work in a specific area of Australia to earn a 2nd year visa.

The specified work differs between $417AUD and $462AUD visas. $462AUD visa holders have the additional sector of tourism and hospitality (in northern Australia only) added to the specified work list. You can find all the necessary specifications for a $417AUD visa and a  $462AUD visa on the government website.

How do I apply for a visa?

We recommend applying as soon as possible. The application can be completed through your travel agent, or directly through the same Australian Government website as above.

We always recommend checking Australian Government website for any specific inquiries.

What is Superannuation and am I entitled to it? Superannuation is Australia’s pension fund scheme.

Being on a working holiday, you’re entitled to have a superannuation account and your employers have to pay into this account. Do I need a bank account?

If you’re traveling as a tourist for just a few weeks, you don’t need one – a travel card will be great. With cheap rates, tiny fees and a really to use app, we always recommend Wise .

If you’re here for a longer period of time (for example, on a Working Holiday Visa) then it’s highly recommended to open an Australian bank account. It’s an extremely easy process that our Partner – Welcome tours will assist you with. Not only will you save a lot on exchange/transaction fees, but employers will only pay wages into an Australian account. Don’t worry about it now, Welcome tours will help set it up for you in the weeks leading up to your arrival.

What is a Tax File Number?

This is basically a personal identity number created for you by the Australian Taxation Office (ATO). It is required if you want to work in Australia, so that you can be correctly taxed on your income from day one.

You will provide this number to each employer you have while you are in Australia and your tax will be deducted from your wage accordingly, just as it would be in your home country.

Application and Fees

Stage 1 of the application.

Please set up an IENA account and complete the online IENA Outbound Program application. We will assess your application and then invoice you for payment of our program fee. After payment is processed and you are accepted to the program you will be emailed stage two of the application process.

Stage 2 of the Application

• Applying for your visa – don’t’ worry, IENA will provide step-by-step instructions and guidance on how to secure your visa!
• Booking your flight to Australia – IENA’s preferred travel provider can assist with flights.
• Purchasing travel and medical insurance – it is a visa requirement that you have proof of medical coverage (including medical evacuation and repatriation of remains) on entry to Australia. Note: You will not be covered under the socialized medical system in place in Australia.
• Job reference from a previous or current employer.

Application Deadlines: Please allow 4-6 weeks for application processing.

Program Fees

Essentials: $485

Other costs to consider for all options:

• Flights – Special flight deals are available through our preferred travel provider
• Travel and medical insurance (this is a visa requirement)
• Visa fee currently AU$485
• Support funds equivalent to AU$5,000 (this is a visa requirement)

Cancellation Conditions

If you cancel from the program before your stage two deadline you will be charged a cancellation fee of $100. If you cancel after you have reached stage two, no refund is possible.

Any cancellation must be received in writing and is only effective from the date we receive it. Please note that separate cancellation fees and conditions will undoubtedly apply to any flight bookings you make.

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Working Holiday Visa age limit up to 35 years

Some nationalities can apply for a Working Holiday visa (subclass 417 & 462) up to and including, 35 years of age. Among those French, Canadian, Irish citizens, Italian and Danish citizens .

The UK – Australia Free Trade Agreement entered into force in May 2023. UK passport holders are now able to apply for a Working Holiday visa between the ages of  18 and 35 years  inclusive  since July 2023 .

The age of 30 years remains as the limit for all other Working Holiday countries that travel to Australia. Everything you need to know, you can read in this article.

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Age limit increased to 35 for some nationalities

Countries with age increased.

This is great news for travellers over 30 years old from a few countries! Indeed, the age eligibility for applying for an Australian  Working Holiday Visa expanded to 35 years for some nationalities!

• In 2018, Working Holiday Visa Australia age limit increased to 35 years for Canadian and Irish citizens.
• In 2019, it was France that announced the same change !
• Since July 2022 the age limit for Italian and Danish citizens wanting to work and travel in Australia has also increased by five years – from 30 to 35 years of age. Australian citizens up to the age of 35 will also benefit from reciprocal arrangements with Italy and Denmark.
• And finally, since 1 July 2023, the age limit increased to 35 years for UK passport holders!

Migration Act Extract

Those changes can be seen in Schedule 1—Countries or regions, passport conditions and age requirements in the instrument Migration (Arrangements for  subclass 417 visa applications) Instrument (LIN 22/051) 2022 and Migration (Arrangements for subclass 417 visa applications) Amendment Instrument (LIN 23/047) 2023. It is also noted on the immigration website under the ‘age condition’ for a WHV.

Australian legislation clearly defines the age limit for Working Holiday visa makers  :

(2) The applicant: (a) holds a working holiday eligible passport of the kind, or of one of the kinds, specified in a legislative instrument made by the Minister for the purposes of this subclause; and

(b) is aged at least 18 and no more than: (i) 35; or (ii) if a younger age is specified in the instrument mentioned in paragraph (a) for the kind of passport the applicant holds—that younger age.

Therefore if no age is specified, it means that the age limit is 35 years old.

Other partner countries (such as Germany) are still in the process to amend the bilateral Working Holiday Maker agreement expanding the eligibility age to 35. 

For UK Passport Holders

The UK – Australia Free Trade Agreement has entered into force and the age limit for UK passport holders has been increased to 35 since 1st of July 2023.

With the agreement, UK passport holders are able to:

• apply for a Working Holiday visa between the ages of 18 and 35 years inclusive since 1 July 2023
• will be granted up to three Working Holiday visas without having to meet any specified work requirements from 1 July 2024.

More info : UK – Australia FTD

How to renew your Working Holiday Visa in Australia

People currently on a Working Holiday Visa in Australia (subclasses 417 or 462) and over 30 years old, are eligible to apply for a second or third year visa if they are from France, Ireland, Canada, Italy, Denmark and UK.

Renewing your Working Holiday Visa in Australia, either Subclass 417 or Subclass 462, offers an exciting opportunity to extend your stay and continue exploring the country. The process, however, requires meeting specific criteria and undertaking certain types of work.

For Subclass 417 visa holders, you’re eligible to apply for a second year if you have completed three months (or 88 days) of specified work in regional areas of Australia during your first year. This work often includes farming, fishing, mining, and construction. Holders of a second Subclass 417 visa can apply for a third year by undertaking six months of specified work in specified regional areas during their second year.

Similarly, for Subclass 462 visa holders, a second year is possible if you complete three months (or 88 days) of specified work in northern Australia in certain industries, including tourism and hospitality, agriculture, forestry, and fishing. As with the 417 visa, a third year is possible for 462 visa holders who complete six months of specified work during their second year.

Note: UK passport holders will be exempted from regional work from 1 July 2024.

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1210 comments.

Hi, I’ve already completed 1 year travel within Australia and achieved my 88 days farm work. I am from the UK currently aged 30 and turn 31 in November. If I apply for my 2nd visa before I’m 31, this will give me up to 12 months until November 2021 to ‘enter’ Australia, right? Could I then enter use said visa for the 2nd year.. Even though I would be 32?

Hi Danny, You definitely need to apply before you turn 31. Once your visa is approved, you will have 1 year to enter Australia so until November 2021, no matter your age 🙂 Cheers

Hi, I am turning 35 soon, must I apply for my visa before then or do I have until I am 36? Thanks.

Hi Mel, To apply for a WHV you must be 18 to 35 years old (inclusive) for Canadian, French and Irish citizens. Which means you have until the day before you turn 36 to apply. However, you won’t be able to renew it as you ll be over the age limit. Maybe you could apply now and enter Australia as soon as the borders open and do your 88 days straight so you ll be able to renew (if of course you want to renew!). Cheers

Hello I’m from the UK and applying for the three visa at age 35 when it comes into play in 2022. Do you know if it will be issued as a three year visa or will have I renew but will be 36 after 12 months

Hi Sarah Unsure at the moment. We will know more within the next few months. Cheers

Hi I turned 31 in august 2022, has the law for uk passport holder changed to 35 yet? Also what requirements do Turkish passport holders need to obtain the Australian working visa? Many thanks Jasmin

Hi Jasmin, No the FTA has moved so far. For Turkish passport holders the conditions are the same to obtain a 462. Cheers

You have until a few days before you turn 36

Yes it is correct (until you turn 36 yo) Cheers

Hi i turn 36 on November 29 thia year will that be enough time for me to get approval for my Australian 12 month working visa to be granted???? Thanks

Hi Daniel, Yes make sure you make your application before your birthday. Once is done you are safe 🙂

Hi how do the application please i ain’t got a clue were to go what website i go on could you point me in the right direction please thanks

Hi guys please please message me back, i have paid & sent off all my documents & immi application off i turn 36 in 4 days, i ain’t heard nothing from home affairs, if i have sent off my application before i turned 36 will they still approve me??!!

Hello, I am an Irish citizen, I have completed my 1st year Australian WHV and I am eligible to apply for my second one. Does the age limit of 35 apply to me even though I did my 1st year WHV before this update in age came in? Thanks

Hi there, Yes you can apply for your second year visa 🙂

Hay !! I am from Indonesia, can I apply for WHV when I am 32 years old.? But I have 4 years experience in Agriculture. Because almost all the information I read must be 30 years old. What about 32 years old but with 4 years experience can still apply for WHV?

Hi Sadik The age limit is 31 years old even if you have experience. You can check the immigration website to see your visas options : https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/

Hi there, I’m a UK citizen who was interested in possibly getting one of those working visas to come and live / work in Australia for a year. Only trouble is I turn 31 on Monday! Have I left things too late?

Hi Mike, Hope you applied right before your birthday !

Hi, i applied for a visa and because of covid I’m not able to go, it expires this month. From what I understand i have until 2022 to ask for a WHC WAIVER or a refund. Is that correct? Any extra info is welcome. Thanks in advance.

Hi Milena, Correct. The process as to how to get the refund/waiver has not been explained yet. Cheers

Hi. I’m portuguese 31 years old. Never been in Australia. Do I have any chances to get a working holiday visa? No exceptions related with covid-19?

Hi, You can apply for a WHV until you turn 31 (it is 30 inclusive). No exception so far (except waiver and refund for those who had to leave the country or couldn’t enter Australia). Cheers

I am an Irish citizen turning 33 and hoping to use this visa in the next year or so. However I work in Banking and want to continue on this job path, can I do so or am I required to engage in ‘casual’ work?

Hi Deborah, Once your WHV is granted you can work in any fields/jobs (6 months max with the same employer)- However, if you wish to renew your visa, you will need to work in some jobs/areas for 88 days. Cheers

I was just wondering, say if you do 88 days of work on your first WHV and you want to apply for a second one but in New Zealand, is that transferable or is it limited to Australia?

Hi Kristy, It is limited to Australia. Cheers

Hi, I’m 32 years old living in Ireland, UK passport holder, is there any possibility of a WHV when things open

Hi John, The age limit has been extended to 35 yo only for Irish citizens. If you do not hold an Irish passport, unfortunately you will not be able to apply for a WHV as you have already reached the age limit 🙁

Hi there, I have just started by second year working holiday visa Feb 2021, however I turned 31 in December 2020. If I complete 6 months of agriculture work this year will I be eligible for a third year visa, I have heard mixed stories of the visas been granted and not granted. Otherwise I’ll know if I should do my 6 months agriculture work or not

Hi there, If you do not hold a passport with an age limit at 35 then you wont be able to apply for a 3rd year. Cheers

Okay, because I have 11 months to complete my 6 months, do you think the age limit will go up to 35 for U.K. passport holders? Or do you think Covid has just pushed this back

Hi Tel With the current situation it is unlikely that the age limit will go up to 35 any time soon 🙁

I am a 26 year old French citizen. I have found a job in Sydney but need to work out the visa. Is it possible to enter Australia at the moment? Is the government releasing any work holiday visas at the moment?

Hi Camille If you can be sponsored (TSS) then you should be able to enter the country. Otherwise only PR and citizens can enter atm. Cheers

Hi I have exceeded the age limit for a U.K. citizen (33yrs), Are there any other way to work in aus and possibly live there eventually. I have family that immigrated over 10yrs ago and own a business. Can this help or is there any other way to get over there? Thanks

Hi Jake, Have a look at the student visa or the family sponsor visa : https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing

Hey there!!

I am a 33 year old Canadian passport holder (currently living in the UK). I would love to apply for an Australian WHV. However, do I need to wait until the borders open to do so? Any indication of when this may be and how long the visa application takes?

Also, can you work the full year in one job or only 6 months?

Thanks so much for all your help!!

Hi Corinne, You can still apply even if the borders are closed at the moment. However, as we are unsure about the reopening, i would advise you to wait a bit as when your visa is granted you have 12 months to enter Australia. Cheers

I just wondered whether you know if and potentially when the UK age limit May increase to 35. I’m 32 and procrastinated too much previously, and missed my chance!

If not, then are my other options permanent residence applications?

Hi Steve, Good news! Age limit will increase for UK citizens! It has been confirmed yesterday following the meeting between Morrison and Johnson! So you will be able to apply for a WHV when the agreement is finalised! 🙂

Hi, I will turn 35 in July of this year. I know the age limit increase was agreed but when will this agreement likely be finalised?. I’m guessing providing it’s done prior to me turning 36 I can apply?

Hi Gemma, Unfortunately we don’t have nay more details at this stage. On the provisional Uk-Australia FTD under the ‘Mobility’ section it says the agreement will come into effect ‘within 5 years’. We hope it will be sooner! Cheers

Hi, i am from the uk and applied for my first year visa a month before turning 31. It is saying the process will take 4 months to be granted. Do i have a year to enter once it is granted or from when i applied?

Also, if the age limit is indeed upped to 35, i am assuming i will be able to do a second and third year?

Any light would help! Thanks, James

Hi James The 12 months start once your visa is granted. Regarding the age limit, we do not know exactly when it will enter into effect. But in all cases, yes once the age limit is increased to 35 you will be able to stay up to 3 years in Australia. Cheers

Do we know how long it took for the Canadian/Irish/french age limit to change to 35? Surely it can’t take too long to come into effect

Hi Joe, It was immediate for the Canadian, French citizens. But the announcement was made after the agreement was signed! Here the FTA was agreed on principle only. Cheers

Hi, I am from the Uk and have completed both my first year and second year WHV. Can I apply for a third year WHV as i worked in the construction industry until I left Australia in November 2019?

Many thanks,

Hi Daniel, you must have carried out at least 6 months of specified work on or after 1 July 2019. If it’s the case, and you are still within the age limit, you can apply for a third year. For now, we do not know when the agreement will enter into force. Cheers

Thanks for getting back to me.

I worked in the construction industry for most of my second WHV, so would have done 6months by July 2019, so can I still apply? I am 30 now so can I go ahead and apply for the third year now?

I’m a UK resident and I’m currently working on my subclass 417 application. The online application says the “State / Province” section of the Place of Birth information is a required field. Any idea what to put in this section, as states and provinces don’t really exist in the UK? I was born in Tyne and Wear, and this seems the most logical.

Hi Adam, Yes it is correct. Cheers

Hi im in scotland and 33. I was wondering if i can still get a visa as seen something about them going to 35? Thanks

Hi Daniel, No final agreement so far but it should happen within the next year or so. therefore you will be able to apply for a WHV (up until your 36th bday). Cheers

Just wondering if I applied for a working holiday visa at 23 and worked and got my second year working holiday visa and completed it. At 30 years of age can I apply for a working holiday visa again?!

Hi if you have done you regional work yes you can apply whenever you want. Cheers

Hi, I am a UK citizen can I move to Australia to live ? I have a sister who lives there , I am 54 years old ?

Hi there, you should check the sponsor visas (family) https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/visitor-600/sponsored-family-stream#:~:text=This%20visa%20stream%20lets%20people,to%20visit%20their%20family%20members.&text=%E2%80%8BYou%20may%20be%20eligible,COVID%2D19%20related%20travel%20restrictions .

I have already completed my 1 year WHV. I didn’t do my farm work. When this comes into play does this mean I can apply for a second year?

Hi Jessica, Unclear for now but pretty much applicable only for new visa applications. Cheers

Hi I’m from U.K. I’m 30 my partner is 31 (32 next month) Are we able to apply for WHV or do we need to wait until the age limit has increase indefinitely ? Also my partner did his first year approx 8 years ago. Does he still apply for second ?

Hi Jay, If your partner already applied for a WHV and did not complete the 88 days of regional work, he wont be able to apply for a second year. You on the other hand can apply for a WHV at any time. Cheers

Hi there. I am 31 yo turning 32 in June 2022. I am from UK and hold a British passport. I have never before being in Australia and was wondering if I could apply for visa?

Hi James, For now the age limit for Uk passport holders is 31 inclusive. which means that you can apply for a WHV up until your 32nd bday. Cheers

I applied for a working holiday visa in 2011 and went and stayed/worked in australia for a year but didn’t realise about the “specfic work” until too late, im now 33 and a half years old from London, and on the uk news it says that the new working holiday visa might not need to have the specific work to get second visa?

Hi Maiko, Yes that is correct but it looks like it will only apply to new WHV and not previous, expired visa. Cheers

Do we have any more news on when this agreement for upto 35 could take place. I heard they met last week but nothing was signed. You think July 2022 is realistic

If for example it does get signed then is there a waiting time to get it from then or you could apply more or less straight away

Also, when you apply what’s the odds on getting one. As this isn’t based on a points system like the skilled one so is it just more or less anyone qualifies but you can only give so many out ?

Hi Conor, Hard to answer all your questions as we do not know much at this stage. However it is said that the agreement should enter into force in 2022 (to face the lack of manpower in Australia). So hopefully we should know more within the next few months. Cheers

Hi i have previously been to Australia on a working holiday visa and completed more than 88 days. Ive now been home for nearly 2 years due to covid im 33 from the uk is there a chance of getting a second year whv when the age limit raises to 35? Or will i need to look at different visa options? Thanks

Hi Ryan, Yes you ll be able to apply for a new WHV once the age limit increases to 35… hopefully by the end of 2022. Cheers

Hi, I just want to confirm your answer as I am reading some conflicting comments on this page.

I am a 31 year old UK resident, who stayed in AU for less than a year under a 417 visa. This was roughly 5 years ago – and I completed my 88 days during that time.

Now, understanding the new ’35 year old allowances’, I am very keen to return and do my 2nd and 3rd year…. is this possible?

Hi Tom, It is a bit tricky to reply to this for sure. We do not know at this stage if the FTA will apply only to new WHV or previous ones. But in your case, as you did your 88 days, it seems you will be able to apply for a new WHV (TBC). We will update this article once we have more information in hand. Cheers

Thank you, appreciate your reply.

Seems like we just need to wait a few more weeks to get confirmation.

For others interested, this link (page 4) suggests an update is due in a couple of weeks.

https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-9204/CBP-9204.pdf

Thanks, Tom

I had a thought….

…the Irish/French/Canadian went through a similar change a few years back, right? AU bumped up their age ceiling from 30 to 35.

How did AU deal with these? Did they allow previous WHV applicants to return to complete their 2nd year (say at 32 or 33 years old)? Or did these new rules only apply to to brand new WHV apps?

Hi, I applied for a working holiday visa back in 2015. I stayed in Aus for 4 months working for a university, but then came home. I’m now 34 and hoping to apply for a new working holiday visa (hopefully next year) before I turn 36 in March 2023. Given I already had one of these visas in 2015, will I still be eligible for second, assuming the age limit increases to 35 before I turn 36 in 2023? Thanks!

Hi Charlie, unfortunately if you have already ‘used’ your WHV you won’t be able to apply for a new WHV. 🙁

Hi, thanks for getting back to me. Given the age is increasing to 35 and the criteria (like farm work) are changing, doesn’t that mean the scheme is starting afresh?

I guess what I’m asking is, how does my previous WHV make ineligible for a new one once the age limit increases? Can’t I just do the work required under the new scheme?

Hey guys, iam 29 at the moment, turning 30 in 6 months… I alread got to the medical exam stage and was now wondering, if I now do the checkup and get positiv feedback and my application gets accepted, let’s say end of January, is my 12 month visa than valid from that day on or can I also enter for example in November 2022 (I would still be 30) and still have the full 12 month? Let me know guys, thank you very much; you should get payed from the home affairs agency

Hey Sascha, Once your visa is approved, you ll have 12 months to come to Australia. You visa will start once you have entered the territory and will be valid for 1 year (that you can renew). Thanks 🙂

I previously had a WHV for 2 years back in 2011, when the visa age limit gets increased would I be able to apply as a UK citizen?

Hi Alice, It does not seem that this will apply for former WHV makers at this stage. Cheers

I have already done a working holiday visa but was unable to do the farm work to make me eligible for a second year because of the covid restrictions. My intention was to enjoy the first 6 months and then do my farm work but couldn’t because of all the restrictions the country had in place due to covid. I knew I was too old to get my second year but was going to do the farm work anyway due to hearing the rumours of age increase which is actually happening, July 1st I have heard. I had to leave early because I lost my job as well. Where do I stand? Could I possibly be granted the new one due to the circumstances the country and I was in when I was living there because if none of this had happened I would’ve done my farm work like I had planned and be eligible for my second year when the age increase is in place.

Hi Joseph, Hard to give you a definite answer but if your WHV has been affected because of the pandemic, you should be able to apply for a VAC or refund. Cheers

I held my 2 WHV’s from March 2018-March 2020, as far as I can remember the 6 month farmwork for UK visa holders for a 3rd year wasn’t an option at the time. When the new trade deal comes into effect, can I get a third year visa seeing as there’s no farmwork requirement moving forward anyway?

Hi Rosie, It seems that the agreement will only apply to new applicants and not previous WHV but it is to be confirmed. Cheers

My partner (UK resident) was been granted a working holiday visa on 6th December 2021. We don’t intend to pick up the visa from the Aus Embassy in London and enter Aus until December 2022. Although it was granted before July 2022 (presumably when these changes come in), would my partner still be given a 3 year visa with no work restrictions because we wont be entering until after the date these changes come into play?? Thanks in advance!! Love the information on the website!!

Hi Barry, It is unclear at the moment how the regulation will apply. However your partner’s visa wont be activated until you enter the country. You can wait until there are more details about the agreement and worst case scenario cancel his visa and reapply for a new one after the FTA enters into force. Cheers

can I renew my working holiday visa before it expires? I am applying for the first year now and will turn 30 in april. I imagine going to Australia in October and doing the 3 months of specific work to be eligible for visa renewal. However, my first visa year would expire in October 2023 and I would already be 31 years old. Could I apply in April, before I turn 31? even though it’s 6 months to my first visa expires? Or could I apply for a new extension visa even though I have already turned 31? or in that case would I only be eligible for a one year visa?

Hi Isadora, You can

Hi Isadora, You can apply for a WHV until you turn 31 (30 inclusive). So you can enter the country, do your 3 months work and apply for a second year before your 31st birthday. Cheers

Hello, I have a one-year gap in my studies in Canada and plan to complete my first working holiday in Australia. If I finished three months of specific work in the designated area. Then after three years (I will graduate at that time), could I apply for a second work holiday visa?(If I was under 31 at that time)

Hi Amy, yes no problem. You can choose to do your second WHV after the 1st one or a couple of years later. As long as you complete the 88 days, no worries 🙂

I held a 417 WHV January 2019-2020, and I didn’t do the 88 days regional/farm work so wasn’t eligible for the 2nd year visa. When the new “no work necessary” rules come into place in July, will I be able to apply for my 2nd year?

Hi Emma, It seems it will be only applicable to new WHV holders however it is not clear at this stage. Cheers

Hi, Are you able to clarify where you have seen that the new visa will only apply to new applicants? I am also in the same position as a lot of people on here, in that I did a year in Australia with no farm work. I am hoping to be able to apply for my second/third year once the new WHV comes out. Thanks

It is not clear at this stage, we are still waiting for some clarification. Cheers

I am from Holland. I’m currently 32 years of age and already did a working holiday in 2019-2020. Had to leave because of covid but luckily I finished my farm work just in time. So I applied for the second WH visa before I turned 31 in August 2020. For a long time I didn’t really hear anything until the 10th of December 2021(!!), when my second WH visa got approved. I was surprised to say the least. Now, because the age restriction for my country is 30, can I still make use of the visa because I’m 32 at the moment and will be 33 on August 29 this year? The visa got approved and it saids I must enter Australia before December 10th. Cheers!

Regards, Jelmer

Hi Jelmer, For this specific question I would advise you to get an answer directly from the immigration department (and preferably in writing). Cheers

Hi, can you enter Australia on a working holiday visa with a child?

Hi Hayley, you won’t be able to have a whv granted if you have a dependant children. Thanks

Hi i done a years whv in 2010. Can i apply for another one before im 36? Thanks

Hi Anthony, It seems the new rules will only apply to new whv holders but this point needs to be clarified. Cheers

Hello! Im a British passport holder. I applied for a working holiday visa just before I turned 31, it got approved but I was unable to use it due to covid, and border closure. The visa expired and I wasn’t able to reapply because I turned 31.

Will that be an issue if I reapply once the age limit changes to 35??

Hi Nay No it shouldn’t be an issue, you should be able to apply without fees (VAC application). Cheers

I am 30 years old and turn 31 in December, I have already completed 1 year in Australia and did do my farm work, I am a British citizen, would I be able to return for a further year?

Hi Amy, We do not know at this stage if the FTA will apply only to new WHV or previous ones. As you did your 88 days, it seems you will be able to apply for a new WHV (TBC). We will update this article once we have more information in hand. Cheers

Hi Can I apply hoildays visa before I turn into my 36 birthday. Or 35?

Hi, usually it is 35 inclusive. Cheers

Hi, I’m from the UK recently turned 31 years old , I haven’t been to Australia before , but looking to come out to work.

Did they increase the 18-30 age to 35? Or will I be unable to do this

Thanks, Dean

Hi Dean, The FTA is not into force yet. It should be by the end of the year. Cheers

Hi. I’m 28 and nearly half way through my third year WHV, what are my best options for staying in Australia..?

Hi Steve, Your options, depending on your situation : 408 visa, student, TSS … Cheers

Hi I am 34 and have a recent criminal record for failing to provide and breath test. Will this affect me getting my whv. Also when is it likely to change to 35yr limit. And can I complete what needs to be completed time/visa wise at this age or will I run out of time

Hi Jake, No it shouldn’t affect your visa however you will need to declare it when applying for your WHV. The age limit should be increased within the next few months however no date has been set yet. Cheers

I have applied for my first holiday working visa, and planning to fly over next February from the UK. By this time I will be 31.

Does that mean I would not be able to apply for the second year working visa even though I am still over there and completed the mandatory work needed?

Or should I just cross my fingers and hope that the 35 year old extension goes through?

Hi Joe, The 35 yo extension will definitely go through this year. We hope this will be in July but no date has been set yet. Cheers

Hi, Where have you seen that the age limit will definitely be raised to 35 this year? Thanks.

Hi Tanya, https://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/not-yet-in-force/aukfta

Hi, I applied for a WHV back in 2015, I entered Australia on this visa but never worked, only travelled for 4 months. Would I be able to apply for another WHV because I did not work?

Hi Laura, It is unlikely but we are still waiting for clarifications. Cheers

I just discovered the WHV program is extending to 35 years old for UK citizens (fingers crossed) I also see a third year has been added if you do 6 months of agricultural work in your second year (this wasn’t an option when I previously completed my second year WHV) In my second year on a WHV in Australia I did work for 6 months in agricultural work. Do you think it would be possible to use that work from 2017 to apply for a third WHV? I’m 33 now.

Hi Annie, Unfortunately to be eligible for a third WHM visa, you must have carried out at least 6 months of specified work on or after 1 July 2019. If you worked in 2017, it wont be eligible. 🙁

Hi, I am a UK citizen with an upto date passport. I will turn 35 on May 2nd. Can I apply for a WHV now? If not, do you know when or even if I ever will be able to before I turn 36 in 2023? Thanks

Hi Jason, You wont be able to apply for a WHV atm as you are over the age limit. If the text enters into force in July, you will be able to apply until you turn 36. Cheers

Hi there, just noticed on a few websites the mention that the FTA possibly won’t come into force until 2024. Just wondering if there is any official info on when the visa age increase is now likely to come into force. Currently 35 and turning 36 in Nov 2022, so a bit worried about the timeframe and possibility of missing out. Thanks

Hi Allan, All info are up to date on this website : https://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/not-yet-in-force/aukfta

Hi you guys. I’m 28 and from the UK; I have just applied for my first WHV. Complete newb.

I have a tricky question – first, I’ll be 29 by the time I arrive in Australia. And as things stand with the 30 y/o limit, that means I can apply for the second years WHV when I’m 30 and stay a second year. However, when that year is up, I’d then be too old to apply for a third years WHV.

Let’s assume this 35 y/o limit doesn’t come into force – is there any other way to stay longer? I.e if you’re over the age limit for a third WHV? Is the only way to stay permanently (without studying or getting married!) to find an employer who will sponsor you to stay?

Second question, and I doubt you’ll know this – let’s say I’m in Australia doing my 88 days of hard graft for my first WHV and then the new 3-year visa option comes into play – think I’ll be able to start from scratch again? I.e get the 3 year visa (which may have more relaxed restrictions on what work one can do?).

Hi Ed, If the FTA doesn’t enter into force on type, you have to go on another visa (can be student, tourist or even a sponsor if you find one). For your second question we do not know at this stage if if will concern only new WHV or also people who already hold a WHV… we will need to wait a bit to get some clarification! Cheers

Any news on when the bilateral will change to 35? I’m 35 now and have until Jan 2023 before I turn 36.

Hi Orly, No news at this stage 🙁

Hi all, I’ve just seen an update to the new WHM visa for UK passport holders (when it gets implemented). It gives good clear examples for people that are new to applying for the first time and also for people who have already had a stint in Australia and where they stand on applying for the ‘new’ visa when it comes out.

I think it will answer a lot of people’s questions in this forum and is generally very good news for all

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/what-we-do/whm-program/latest-news/arrangements-uk-passport-holders

Thanks Tom for sharing !

Hi, with the announcement that the age is to be increased to 35 for Danish and Italian on the 1st of July 22. There’s no mention of the U.K. does that now mean it’s unlikely the U.K. change is to come in on the 1st of July after all?

Hi Gemma, Unsure… hard to give you an answer here… we hope it will be July for Uk too but it might be within 2 years (from date of signature)

I know it’s speculation at the moment, but how confident are you the new WHV for over 35 year old from the UK will go through this year? i’ve read reports saying it may be July and then others saying it could be within the next 2 years?

I’ve just turned 31 so have to wait for the new visa and hopeful it’s this year but also dont want to put my life on hold for 2 years if it’s happening 2024!

Hi Ben, It is quite unclear at the moment, but considering Italian and Danish citizens’age limit will be increased in July, we hope it will also for UK passport holders. Cheers

I’m within the age limit 29 but my husband is turning 40 this year. He always wanted to do the WHM. Could he join me on my visa, as spouse? Is that an option?

Hi Eva, Unfortunately your husband won’t be able to join your WHV. He can go for a tourist visa or even a student one… Cheers

Hi mate, any update on whether the UK will change the age limit to 35 soon? I really need this to happen and I’ve heard some news articles say this will happen by 1 July 2022. Cheers mate

Hi there, Not confirmed so far! Hopefully at the same time as Denmark and Italy!

I’m 30 and turn 31 in November? Is the age limit getting increased to 35? And does the year start from the day you apply? Or say it’s accepted.

Hi Lewis, Yes the age limit is to increase soon (we do not have a date yet). Once the agreement enters into force, UK passport holders will then be able to lodge an application for any Working Holiday (subclass 417) visa up until the day before their 36th birthday.

Hey have you any update on when the age from UK will change to 35 to get into Australia? 🙂 I keep coming mixed comments – thank you

Hi Koral, No date so far 🙁

do you think the UK and AUS will increase the WHV ages to 35 by 1 July 2022? I really need to get there soon so hoping this happens

We hope it will increase at the same time as Italy and Denmark 🙂

Hey there! I am 34 years old from USAand currently residing in Bali, Indonesia. It’s unfortunate for me that USA wasn’t part of the age limit increase. Does anyone here know of any other way I can enter Australia for temporary work? I have some friends who are suggesting to apply for a study visa and take a short course which also allows for 40 hour work week whilst attending a course. What do you guys think? Thank you!

Hi Randy, A Student visa can be a good option as it will allow you to work while following a short course. Otherwise you can always look for a sponsorship (TSS visa). Cheers

Please, if I was granted the WHV before (when I was 30) but haven’t entered Australia, can I apply again and be granted it again? Thank you! Giovanni

Hi Giovanni, If you havent used your visa and never entered Australia, you ll be able to apply for a new one. Please note, the age limit for Italian citizens will increase to 35 in July 2022. Cheers

Hi I have read the UK has just introduced this bill as of yesterday (11.05.22)

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-bill-to-enable-implementation-of-australia-and-new-zealand-trade-deals

Good news?!?!

Hi when you go for the working visa what information do you need to have. I have been told you need a police report also what vaccine do you need to have thanks.

Hi Jonathan, Police report may be requested … depends on your personal situation. As for the vaccination, 2 doses of approved covid vaccine are required to enter the country. Cheers

Seeing as the age for UK citizens is going to 35, and i already have my first year approved (i plan to enter in November) if i arrive at age 32, then in theory i should be able to extend my stay for 3 years, taking me to just before i turn 36?

Thanks! James

Hi James, For 2 years (so 3 all together). Cheers

Hi just wondering what information is needed for the visa as I have been living in Thailand for 11 months do you need a police report also what vaccines are needed I’ve had 2nd one do I need to have my 3rd to be safe for a job. Also what date do we think the age will increase for applying for the visa

Hi Jonathan, The documents you ll need to provide will be listed at the end of your application. You may need some medical ones. To enter Australia you ‘only’ need 2 doses. And finally for the age limit… maybe July but nothing is 100% atm. Cheers

That’s perfect do you need your medical information from your own doctor or just a to-do a medical at somewhere that does them as don’t want to travel back to the UK to get the information thanks.

Hi there, Depending on the medical examinations required (if any) you will need to see an approved doctor (the list will be on your immi account). Cheers

I am 30 and turn 31 on the 21st of June. I have my first WHV sorted but just want to check, do I have to be in the country before I turn 31 next month or can I come a few days after? My Visa expiry is May 2023 so I’m assuming I can enter after my 31st as the visa was completed prior to me turning 31, is this correct? I should say, I’m from the UK.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Hi Dan, You can enter the country up to 12 months after your visa has been granted (your age doesnt matter). Cheers

I turn 31 in August. Is it best to apply now or wait until the new age limit comes into place? Would I still need to complete the mandatory farm work to get the second year, or would I still benefit from the rule change?

Hi Alice, The problem is we do not know exactly when the FTA will enter into force. In all cases, you will not need to complete the mandatory work to renew. Cheers

Is it possible to make another YMV? I am a canadian who used hers in 2014. Now I am 32 wondering if I can get another YMV now that the age is to 35?

Hi Cori, Unfortunately if you havent done any eligible jobs you wont be able to apply for a new visa (the removal of ‘specified work’ requirements only applies to UK passport holders). Cheers

I’m from the UK and currently 30 years old, I turn 31 in March of next year. I’m looking into getting a visa to australia and need to come up with the best plan possible

Few questions- How long do i have to apply for my visa and how long will this process take? When receiving my one year visa do i have to enter the country before turning 31? I also see that the visa age limit will change to 35 for brits soon. Do you know when this is law is likely to come into play?

Hi Alex If you plan to apply for a WHV you can until your 31 st bday (for now and until the FTA enters into force). Once approved you will have one year to enter the country. Cheers

Do we have a rough estimate of when the new UK Aus FTA will come into effect? Was first reported at July 1st but that doesn’t seem true now.

Hi Dave, Yes initially then it became ‘The new arrangements will start for WHMs within two years, on a date agreed on between Australia and the UK.’

So this would come into effect in December 2023?

The maximum time frame is 2 years from date of signature.

I’m losing hope that both governments are going to enact the 35 age limit anytime soon. And I need it to be done soon as well

Fingers crossed mate!

Hi, it’s June now. Do we have any news about the U.K. 35 year old threshold?

Ho Tonas, We will probably have news on July 1st as the age limit is increasing for other nationalities on this date. Cheers

Does anyone know for certain that the new working holiday visa (UK/Aus) will definitely commence this year? I’ve seen a lot of comments on various forums that say it will commence on the 1st July but as it gets closer and closer to the date there are barely any news articles or certified sources to state this is the case, which I so desperately have been hoping for.

Recently there has been an update on the House of Commons page to say the trade deal was formally laid before parliament on 15th June, and now it provides for a minimum of a further 21 sitting days before the UK can ratify the agreement, which correct me if I’m wrong takes us to 5th of July? And won’t it be another 30 days to then come into affect?

It would be really useful if anyone else has found further information or confirmed sources instead of the generic response: “the agreement will commence within 2 years” as most of us are already aware and are desperate for some good news with a more specific date (fully understand it’s a long shot).

Hi Chloe, No official date atm but things will move forward from 1st July as age limit is increased for 3 other countries. So fingers crossed

It’s July 1st and still nothing announced from both governments. Very disappointed

It is indeed 🙁

did anything get announced yesterday as expected regarding the new working holiday visa??

No Matt nothing so far 🙁

Since it recently went through for Danish and Italian citizens has there been any update on when the age increase to the working holiday visa will come into effect for Brits?

When the change is made for Brits will they be able to apply from inside Australia if they are already there on a tourist, or other, visa,?

Thanks for all your work to help us understand what’s going on.

Hi Charles, So far no news 🙁 It went through for 2 new countries but not UK 🙁

Thanks for your response. Do you have any information regarding my second question? If a Brit were in Australia on a tourist visa when when the changes come into effect would they be able to apply for a work and travel visa from within the country?

From what I have read the UK is expected to ratify their side of the agreement around the 20th of July. However, Australia’s Joint Standing Committee on Treaties doesn’t reconvene until the 26th of July and the trade agreement is currently listed under lapsed inquiries as it wasn’t completed before the election. So it could be another month or more until Australia officially signs off on their side. Fingers crossed the visa age changes will come in immediately when they do.

My source: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Treaties/Lapsed_inquiries_of_the_46th_Parliament

I too was due to apply when I turned 30 but missed the boat – UK citizen. I will turn 35 Jan 2023 and 36 in Jan 2024 and understand in 2024 the age will change to 35 for Brits? When would be the best time for me to apply? I don’t want to miss out again

Hi Pri, We hope the change will happen way before 24! Things should move forward within the next few months!

Why does this article say Australia has been accepting the new visa since March?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10947823/amp/Nationals-senator-Bridget-McKenzie-blames-lack-overseas-backpackers-12-lettuce-Australia.html

Hi Bradley It s not accurate. The FTA is not entered into force yet. We are hoping this will happen within the next months 🙂

My comment was deleted yesterday?!

Why does this article state that they’ve been accepting the updated visa terms since March?

Hi Bradley, Just replied to your comment 🙂

Do you think this has something to do with the delay to the FTA?

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm5803/cmselect/cmintrade/117/summary.html

https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/22988/documents/168417/default/

Does seem there is some good news within the article though: “We welcome the planned changes to the Working Holiday Maker and Youth Mobility schemes, and the new Innovation and Early Careers Skills Exchange Pilot.”

Hi Matt, Thanks for sharing the info 🙂

Hi, I’m looking to go to Australia in august, and I’m from the Uk. If I get a year working visa, before the new 18-35 visa is approved, will I be able to change visas to avoid doing the farm work please? Or will I have to do the farm work, then apply for the new visa once the 12 months run out?

Hi Josh As soon as it comes into force, you will have access to a 3 year visa (minus 1 as you ll have used it already). Cheers

This is a great find, Charles. I’ve been following this WHV change closely and hoping it enters into force soon. Where is your source for the 20th July for UK signing of their side?

From what I read you have to apply for the WHV (if it’s your first) from outside of Australia. https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/work-holiday-417/first-working-holiday-417 (See ‘you must’ bullet points)

Thanks for sharing 🙂

Hi Karl. Thanks for that info, it’s very helpful. I’m assuming “apply online from outside Australia” could be anywhere not just the UK? I’m planning on visiting friends there soon so visiting a closer country briefly to apply would be better than flying all the way back to the UK if it enters into force soon.

I couldn’t find my original source but a more recent one says “The agreement will clear parliament on Wednesday under an obscure behind closed doors process”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/australia-trade-deal-brexit-truss-b2124302.html

I hope that’s helpful.

It doesn’t enter into force. The deal is being ratified by the UK’s CRAG procedure on the 20th!

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9484/

This is so frustrating it’s taken this long to change the age limit to 35. Lost all hope

I feel your frustration, I’m not yet 30 but my fiancé is 32… we have been waiting for months, with the hope it would be implemented on 1st July, the day came and went but we then got our hopes up the new agreement would be ratified today but nothing so far. What’s even more weird is there’s been absolutely no media attention around it. Our lives are on hold whilst we wait for this law, I’m currently working a job I hate but can’t hand my notice in until we can apply for visas. Losing hope too!

So i’ve found this below news article:

https://7news.com.au/politics/australia-uk-fta-due-to-be-legislated-c-7082377

It states that the The Australia-Britain Free Trade Agreement is due to be passed through parliament when it resumes, and will likely come into effect by the end of the year or early 2023.

The commissioner says the process will be concluded when the 47th parliament begins onm July 26.

“The trade deal is done and dusted. It’s signed, so it’s going through parliamentary processes because free trade agreements are international treaties and have to be legislated,” Ms Treadell told AAP.

“That’s gone very well so far. We very much look forward to the Free Trade Agreement coming into effect at the end of this year or the beginning of next year.”

So i guess this is good news in that it’s def going ahead so hopefully will be end of this year latest.

Cheers for sharing this Ben! Very hopeful this is this case, fingers crossed…

End of this year or beginning of next year? This is not good news it’s horrific news. ‍Thanks for the info but wow this is devastating. Fingers crossed that this isn’t the case and it comes into affect a lot sooner

Yeah appreciate it’s not ideal, i wasnt sure how much of a rush you’re in but im hoping it’s going to be sooner! it’s just frustrating they cant give us an exact date

I’m in the same boat as you chloe. Life on hold and in a job I cannot wait to quit until this deal comes into effect. At this stage lost all hope as it keeps getting pushed further and further back, and I turn 36 in aug of next year so time is running out. Might look at other countries to go to now while they have actual policies in place.

Still no update. I’ve completely lost all hope now. If anyone hears or sees anything (positive) pls post.

I am also in the waiting lane for the age limit to increase, very frustrating :). As you can’t apply for a first year working holiday visa whilst in Australia, do you know if you can apply whilst not in the UK? E.g. if I applied whilst in Asia, and flew from there?

Any info you have would be much appreciated! Hang in there guys, we’ll get there!

Hi Mich Yes totally 🙂

I was wondering if i could apply for the Working holiday visa outside the uk but also not within Australia? I am a uk citizen?

Thanks all of your help!

Hi Mich Yes you can but you wont be able to enter Australia until your application is approved. Cheers

For anyone interested the Australian Joint Standing Committee on Treaties has added the UK-Australia FTA to their list of current inquiries with the following info:

“The inquiry was re-referred to the Committee on Monday, 1 August 2022. The Treaty and related documents can be found on the Treaty being considered page.

The Committee will not be re-opening submissions and will use the evidence and records of the previous Committee received in the 46th Parliament.”

The reporting date is 16 November 2022 which is the earliest reporting date of any of their current inquiries.

Source: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Treaties

Thanks Charles

What does that mean Charles?

The approval of the act will be dealt on 19/11 ?

It means the Joint Standing Committee on Treaties (JSCOT) is currently considering the submissions made back in Feb/March by the previous government regarding the UK-Aus FTA and will produce a report with recommendations that take into account those submissions. From what I’ve seen the government doesn’t necessarily have to use any of the recommendations and the treaty can be ratified and enter into force before the government responds to the report.

One thing I’m not sure about yet is whether the reporting date is the earliest the report can be released or if it could come out sooner if the JSCOT finishes it early. It seems like the government can’t ratify the trade deal until that report comes out though.

So if the reporting date is fixed the trade deal could be finished any time after Nov 16. If it’s not fixed and the report can come out sooner then maybe it can be finalised even sooner. It’s worth keeping in mind that per the terms of the trade deal it will enter into force one month after it’s ratified by both sides unless they agree on a different date. So even if everything was finalised by both sides on Nov 16 it could be another month before the FTA actually starts.

The submissions from the previous government: https://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/not-yet-in-force/aukfta/submissions#submissions

Any idea when they might increase the age limit for Estonian citizens? Or where I could find info about that? I know that currently the age limit is 30 years.

Hi Annie, Check the Australian government website together with the Estonian one. No mention of an increase atm. Cheers

First of all thanks in advance for your time. Wondering if it is possible to apply for a WHV 417 with an Italian Passport if I had already lived in Australia for 2 years with my Argentinian Passport (under a WHV 462)? I really would like to go back, i have been working in regional areas all my stay there during the covid but I turned 33 this year. I didnt receive the approval of the covid Visa and i left the country without applied for a Bridging B..my bad. u know if there is any possibility to get an exemption?

Hi Alvaro, No sure it will be possible as there is a question when applying for a WHV where you must say whether or not you ve already done a WHV in Australia. It is worth giving it a go (but you might loose your application fees). Cheers

Is it possible to extend my arrival date on my accepted first year working holiday visa? It currently states ‘arrival before 10 december 2022’ – could i push this back to january 2023?

Moreover if i cannot arrive before the date given can i re-apply for the whv?

Here is a bit more info regarding the reporting date of the UK-Australia FTA:

“Category 1 and Category 2 treaties (major treaty actions) automatically stand referred to the Committee for inquiry and report upon tabling in the Parliament. The Committee will generally report on these treaties within 20 and 15 joint sitting days respectively”.

The committee can decide it requires more rigorous inquiry and extend the time frame, they can also decide that it’s urgent and exempt it from the standard 20 or 15 days.

So if sitting days for the committee are Mon-Fri the report could be released much sooner than Nov 16.

Source: https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Joint/Treaties/Role_of_the_Committee

Thanks Charles.

Looking at 2023 best case scenario now aren’t we unfortunately!

It’s looking that way. I checked and the JSCOT has 15 sitting days between when it was re-referred to them and Nov 16th. So it could be ratified on November 17th and enter into force by mid December. That is looking like the best case scenario at the moment.

I haven’t seen anything that explicitly states the working holiday visa age will increase on the day the FTA enters into force. So unless anyone has found anything to the contrary it’s worth keeping that in mind too.

Maybe the site admins can tell us more about that as they are expecting the age increase to happen soon.

Not holding my breath

We are exploring other visa options because this is becoming painful with all the speculating and waiting – our lives have literally been on hold for 8 months and passing us by. So I definitely recommend biting the bullet, looking at alternatives and checking the skilled workers list because there doesn’t seem to be any urgency around this & it will most likely not come into affect until 2024. We were told July 1st and it never happened so if it’s November this year I’d be super surprised. Good luck!

Hi Chloe. To my knowledge neither the Australian nor UK governments gave July 1st 2022 as the date the age changes would occur.

I disagree regarding the trade deal not entering into force until 2024. The reporting date for the JSCOT is Nov 16. After the report is released the Australian government can ratify their side of the deal and it should enter into force one month after that. Whether the age increase to the WHV will occur on the same day remains to be seen.

However, I agree that looking at alternative visa options is a good idea and am doing the same. Best of luck with it all.

Hello, I come from Italy, I am 35 y.o. and will turn 36 in January 2023. I have just got my firt working holiday Visum, valid until 28.8.2023. Do I need to enter Australia before I turn 36 or can I enter the Country within the next 12 Months, even if I will be 36 y.o. ? Thank u

Hi Chiara You have 12 months to enter Australia from the date your visa is granted! Enjoy 🙂

https://www.ft.com/content/2fb5996e-32fd-423b-9f21-142e7f956ebf

“Completed by early 2023”.

Disappointing. Hopefully they can speed up this process but it sure is dragging its heels.

I hold a Uk passport . I’m 31 is it now possible to work in Aus up to the age of 35 ?

I completed my first year when I was 21 and earned my second year but never ended up using it . Have they extended the age to 35 now ?

Hi Alex Until the FTA enters into force you wont be able to access the WHV program. Hopefully soon!

Can you paste the article Bradley? it won’t let me read without subscribing.

“Trevelyan is the first British cabinet minister to visit Australia since the election of Anthony Albanese as prime minister in May. She said the enabling legislation for the trade deals would be introduced within the coming few weeks and expects the deal to be fully ratified by early 2023.”

Not much on it to be honest mate! She’s doing a speech with the Oz counterpart in Adelaide tomorrow! See what comes of it

Thanks for the info Bradley.

Sorry as you may not know and it’s still unknown or if the article said more to it.

But does this mean age range will be done by 2023 ?

As I’m hoping it gets done by august next year as I’m 31, looking to go in September next year.

I want to break down and cry because this is taking so long

Should have some update on Tuesday then…

“Trevelyan returns home on Saturday and will introduce legislation to the House of Commons on Tuesday that would make the British-Australian free trade deal law.”

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/uk-minister-vows-wide-ranging-support-australian-subs-89210344

It’s talking about submarines..

Is it possible to push back on the latest arrival date of my first year visa? It says entry by 15 December 2022. Can i push back to January?

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/international-trade-secretary-speech-to-australian-chambers-of-commerce

Quote from her speech

The UK is focused on ratifying the agreement as soon as possible.

The reason I have to head home tomorrow is because I’ll be presenting the enabling legislation for the FTA to the House of Commons on Tuesday – the next stage towards implementing this legislation, so our firms and citizens can start to enjoy its benefits.

I know your government is focused on moving ahead at pace too.

For people who are desperate to get to Australia. Can you not just apply for the WFH visa now and go? If we now can strongly assume the new rules will come affect some point in 2023. Which means it will come into affect during your first year of the WHV, which should mean you will be able to extend it for the further two whilst your there.

No. I am desperately waiting for the UK to change their age limits to 35. I am 35 now and 36 in August next year. Time is of the essence.

Not if you’ve already had a visa, back in the UK and want to go back to Oz.

https://www.skynews.com.au/wp-content/themes/newscorpau-news-dna/dist/images/favicons/skynews-32×32.png

Looks like November or end of 2022….

Thanks for the update! A couple of quotes worth keeping in mind:

“I am confident that by the end of the year we’ll have done everything we need to do to legally set up the Australia-United Kingdom Free Trade Agreement,”

“The treaty has already been submitted to the British House of Commons and will be sent through the committee stage in the next two weeks”

So it looks like both sides are keen to get it done soon. But:

“Australians eligible for the UK’s Youth Mobility Program will expand from 30 to 35 years of age within two years of the agreement coming into effect”

Hopefully the age changes happen on the day it enters into force or very shortly after.

“Australians eligible for the UK’s Youth Mobility Program will expand from 30 to 35 years of age within two years of the agreement coming into effect”

I don’t understand why there would be a further delay on that aspect when that is part of the deal?

It’s part of the deal but I remember reading something about the removal of the necessary work requirement happening within two years after it’s potential impact has been assessed. Maybe it’s related to that.

Just realised I didn’t link the article. Here it is: https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/young-australians-the-big-winners-as-labor-government-expects-legislative-work-on-uk-free-trade-deal-to-be-done-by-end-of-year/news-story/f0c6f6fdad9db9c8f8dbe319478ae6f8

Let’s hope once the FTA comes into effect the age changes immediately. I cannot wait a further 2 years

This is my hope too. I don’t personally mind if the necessary work requirement remains I would just like to get there ASAP.

Australian Parliament is suspended until Sept 20th so this may delay the AUKFTA report coming out.

https://www.mediastatements.wa.gov.au/Pages/McGowan/2022/09/State-Parliament-suspended-in-honour-of-Her-Majesty-the-Queen.aspx

I have written to the UK Committee overseeing the report on the trade bill.

They were due to sit on the 14th Sept, with their report due out on the 22nd. But of course this is now put back due to The Queen dying.

I have made it clear that the Under 35 agreement should be implemented, as soon as the deal is ratified and into effect, as it would help labour markets, businesses and exporters.

I suggest those who want it implemented straight away do the same. [email protected]

Thank you Bradley

Can you apply for the first year WHV if you already were granted one before, but never actually used it?

Hi James, Yes if you visa has never been activated 🙂

Ok great, i currently have a visa approved and the arrival date is 10th December this year which i may struggle to do. I am over 30 now and from the UK but in theory if the age gets bumped up to 35 at some stage next year say; i’ll be able to re-apply for the first year visa again when that happens?

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/sep/20/fears-australian-farm-labour-woes-may-worsen-with-loss-of-uk-backpackers-under-trade-deal

‘….

However, after the Coalition government signed the UK-Australia free trade agreement last year, British backpackers will no longer need 88 days of farm work to extend their working holiday visas. The relaxed requirements will not come into effect until at least 2024 as the deal has not yet come into force.

…’

Not sure where they are getting this ‘at least till 2024’ info from though? I can’t see it anywhere else online. Anyone else found anything?

Official response from DIT.

Thank you for your email of the 8 September enclosing a query about the Youth Mobility Scheme and the UK-Australia Free Trade Agreement.

Our ground-breaking free trade agreement with Australia is the first trade deal negotiated from scratch by the UK since we left the EU. It will deliver benefits to people, businesses and communities throughout the country, and I am heartened to read that you want to take advantage of one of the many opportunity it affords.

As you set out in their email, the UK and Australia will make changes to the Youth Mobility schemes so that they are available to people aged 18 to 35 years inclusive for a total stay of up to 3 years. This also includes removing requirements in Australia for UK nationals using the Working Holiday Maker programme to undertake specific types of work, for example on a farm.

We are currently working with the Australian Government on the next steps required to implement these commitments and once further changes have been made to these schemes they will be publicised.

The operationalisation of the new commitments on the Working Holiday Maker programme is ultimately a matter for the Australian Government and we would recommend consulting the Australian Department of Home Affairs website for the latest visa information including eligibility requirements.

The UK and Australia will continue to review mobility arrangements, in line with their respective immigration systems, with the aim of further enhancing the ability for citizens to live, work and travel in each other’s country on a mutually advantageous basis.

And I can reassure you and your constituents that we are working to bring the UK-Australia FTA into force as early as possible so that UK citizens and businesses can reap the full range of benefits across the deal.

So reading between the lines, it’s up to the Australian Government to decide when it comes int affect.

Lost all hope that this will get done this year…

Thanks for the update again Bradley, I’m just hoping this is done by September next year for me personally as I turn 31 in august. As I plan to leave after I’m 31!

Fingers crossed!

Hi! What are the options for a 32 portuguese yo to get a long stay visa?

Hi Sara, Student visa seems to be a good option for you. Cheers

With all the turmoil in the UK I don’t expect this to be done anytime soon

https://t.co/AQJgnBSvSG

Don Farrell -“I’m confident these deals will be in place by the end of the year”.

Yeh but will the age limits change.

Yes definitely but the date still unsure!

Hola! Soy una española de 34 años que esta pensando en solicitar la WORK AND HOLIDAYS, sé que han prolongado el visado hasta los 35 años, pero no sé si para ciudadanos españoles esto es posible o se mantienen la solicitud para personas de 18 a 30.

Gracias. Un saludo. Patricia.

Hi Patricia, The WHV is available for Spanish citizens up to 30 yo. If you hold a passport from another country, you may be able to apply for a WHV if the age limit is higher. Cheers

Hi, I’m Italian, just turned 35. I got my first WHV back in 2017, as the age limit recently changed, will I be able to get a second WHV? I didn’t not complete 88 days of farm work. Thanks

Hi Hazel, Unfortunately the Italian citizens but you need to complete the 88 days to renew (only UK passports holders will be exempted in the future). Cheers

My god this thing is taking forever. Albo keeps talking about letting more immigrants in but putting these plans into effect seems to be taking forever

Hi providing that the age limit increase to 35 years old for UK citizens is taking its time and it is uncertain of final dates. Are there any other options for 31+ year olds to come to Australia to work? IS permanent residence the only option?? would love to know more struggling to find info online thanks 🙂

Hi Alix you can check the student visa (but you ll have to be enrolled and you can only work limited hours per week). Cheers

Hi. Does anyone know if the UK changes government, will that affect or stop this uk-australia FTA?

🙁 we don’t

They are still dragging their feet with this. Absolutely annoyed

I’ve given up on this. There’s patience and then there’s being realistic. I turn 36 in August next year so time is of the essence. Absolute joke.

Something I can’t seem to find out is:

I am currently 31 years old (UK). If the trade deal officially goes through and I am then 32 years old, I can get the 1st WHV and once it ends I’ll be 33. In that time frame, will I still be able to get the 3rd one if I am over the age of 35?

Or does it basically mean I have to get all 3 visas applied for and worked through before I am 36?

I desperately want to go to Aus and hopefully get PR there. This country has had it I’m afraid.

I have my first year visa accepted, and my entry date is before 10th December 2022.

I am going to struggle to make it out there before this date this year due to my current situation.

Am i able to push it back to next year, Feb/March time?

Please let me know if/how i can do this

Hi James, if you do not enter Australia prior expiry of your visa, you will need to apply for a new one. Cheers

Hi there, I’m from Ireland and looking to move to Australia on a WHV but want to take my wife and 3 kids with me , is there a different visa for familys? Cheers

Hi Shane, You can check the TSS visa or if you have family in Australia a potential sponsoring. Cheers

I don’t think this deal is ever coming into effect

https://www.sheepcentral.com/political-turmoil-set-to-disrupt-australia-uk-fta-ratification/

Further delays expected. Not looking good .

That article just says that the political situation in the UK “could lead to further delays” and that there are concerns about it. It also mentions that Albanese “said he would be speaking to Liz Truss’ successor about having the appropriate parliamentary processes moved through their respective parliaments.”

So there are no confirmed delays.

I appreciate that you’re frustrated and want to vent but maybe you could take it easy on the negative posts. We all want the same thing which is for this deal to go through ASAP and get where we want to be so maybe you could consider the effect your posts might be having on other people’s outlooks.

Thanks for sharing. Other articles are actually saying the same… delays to be expected because of the political situation in UK 🙁

Just a thought, but hear me out hahaaha…

Should we all write letters to the PM asking him if he would kindly sign the agreement so some of us can leave UK to go somewhere better?

Hahaha, I fully support this!

I don’t blame you for wanting to leave the UK. Its an absolute mess

I am Canadian, applied for 1st year WHM at 35 (the day before I turned 36). I was granted it and 11 months has passed. I am now 37 and going to Aus in the next month (before entry expiry). Assuming I complete farm work while there, can I apply for a second visa?

Hi B, No you wont be able to apply unfortunately as you ll be over the age limit.

Hi there, Was it approved one day before turning 36? Or did you apply and then it was approved after?? I am wondering if I can wait until the last minute to apply or if I should apply a few months in advance. Thanks!

You can apply until the day of your birthday 🙂

Hello I’m 34 years of age, and I’m wanting to go on a working holiday visa to Australia whats the age limit I was going with a company but thry said thry are waiting for new visa to be despatched any other visas thaf I could apply for to get me out there.

Hi there, Age limit still 30 atm. You can apply for a student visa 🙂 there s no age limit. Cheers

The JSCOT report on the UK-Aus trade deal is due to be released tomorrow.

Once the report is out the Australian government can ratify their side of the deal. If the same rules apply as the submarine deal they don’t even need to respond to the report before ratifying.

Hi Charles, appreciate the update. Where did you seen information? Struggling to find any clear updates on the agreement.

Yes pls share Charles 🙂

I’m 29y/o from UK and have received my first WHV. I’m desperate to leave UK and go out to Aus. I’m thinking of going after Christmas. However I want to stay for the 3 years (no farm work) rather than 1 year with farm work still in place. Is it risky to go hoping for the new change to occur at some point in my first year during 2023? I really don’t want to come back after 1 year.

The necessary work is only 88 days and it doesn’t have to be farm work. There’s a list of all of the types of work that meet the requirements online.

Charles, let hope they don’t ratify, don’t think they will with all reports about them getting a better deal then the U.K!

To ratify it would mean they sign off on their side which would put it half way towards entering into force. So I hope they do ratify their side.

Charles, let’s hope its immediately in effect. This has been dragged on for too long

I hope so too. Fingers crossed.

https://www.just-food.com/news/australia-free-trade-deal-not-good-for-uk-says-former-minister-eustice/

Not trying to be negative, but what impact will this have? Why is a former minister coming out and saying this, and possibly derailing the whole thing? What is his intention

I saw that too. From what I understand he’s just voicing (a justified) opinion. The deal really is much better for one side than the other. Fortunately for us it’s likely to have zero impact. The current UK Prime Minister has already said that the deal is bad for UK farmers but the government will be going ahead with it.

Long story short; the ramifications of the UK dropping out of this deal – not just with regard to Australia but every other country it needs to negotiate deals with in the future – are not worth it.

So it will be going ahead.

The JSCOT has published their report on the UK-Aus FTA

This is recommendation 2:

8.42 The Committee supports the Free Trade Agreement between Australia and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and recommends that binding treaty action be taken.

This was pretty mush inevitable but still encouraging.

And here is the bit relevant to us:

Working Holiday Maker Program Visa and Youth Mobility schemes

6.192 The Parties permit citizens aged between 18 and 35 to participate in their respective Working Holiday Maker and Youth Mobility schemes and remain in the country for a maximum of three years without being required to undertake specified work during their stay. Individuals under either scheme could apply to switch to an alternate visa route where a longer length of stay may be granted, subject to meeting the relevant criteria.257 The AUKFTA provides for an increase of the existing cut off age for these schemes to 35.

Nothing on date of implementation but it’s acknowledged at least.

Great, some positive signs. It’s still just a waiting game as to when the date changes.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7985262/mps-back-australia-uk-free-trade-deal/

This looks like very good news.

Could someone answer this for me please?

I’m 31 years old from the UK.

If the deal goes through while I am 31yrs old and I apply for my first WHV and get it, for the 2nd and 3rd WHV, do I still have to be under 35 years of age?

Basically, do I have to be under 35yrs old when applying for my 3rd WHV?

The latest you would be able to apply for the WHV would be one day before your 36th birthday.

This would include the 3rd WHV?

What I’m trying to understand is, if I was 36yrs old and had already had my 1st and 2nd WHV at ages 32 and 33 say, I would then be too old at 36 to apply for my 3rd one?

The WHV is available for those aged 18-35 inclusive. So at 36 you would be too old. At 35 and 363 days you wouldn’t be.

If the necessary work requirement isn’t removed immediately (which is very possible, almost a certainty from what I’ve read) you’d also need to have done that in both your first and second years.

By all accounts, this deal is to be ratified by next week. Let’s hope the age changes come immediately into effect

That would be excellent news! Have you got a link for that?

Same one as I posted above. Scroll down a little

The relevant parts from the article for everyone else:

“Senator Farrell said he had informed UK Secretary of State for International Trade, Kemi Badenoch, the government was in a position to have parliament pass the bill next week.”

“The agreement will be in force after Australia and the UK have confirmed with each other in writing that they have completed their respective domestic requirements.”

So Australia could ratify their side next week but we don’t know when the UK will take care of theirs. Hopefully soon. Unless otherwise agreed upon the agreement will actually enter into force one month after both sides have ratified the deal. Hopefully during that time we’ll get some answers about the age extension.

Still a waiting game it seems. Let’s hope for the best

More info here. Most of it has probably already been covered though – https://www.trademinister.gov.au/minister/don-farrell/media-release/trade-agreement-uk-moves-closer-implementation

“This morning I had an introductory call with the new UK Secretary of State for International Trade, Kemi Badenoch. I congratulated her on her role and gave her an update on the fact that were in a position to finalise our parliamentary processes next week.”

Hello, my girlfriend did a 1 year Australia visa and did not complete her farm work. Is she able to apply for another visa? I heard they are granting “do overs” due to covid/ lack of workers. Is this correct? We are Canadian. Thank you!

Hi Will, yes if you had to leave the country because of covid you can apply for a new WHV free of charge. Cheers

Yes but when will the age changes come into effect. That’s all we are concerned about

Agree with you there Losing hope! We just want to know when the age changes come into effect. I couldn’t care less about how much beef and lamb will be exported or imported into each of the countries lol

https://www.thedcn.com.au/news/law-regulation-trade/commencement-of-australias-free-trade-deals-with-the-uk-and-india-comes-closer/

According to this article, the date for commencement of the FTA should be 01/01/2023

Some light at the end of the tunnel, hopefully!

https://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/7990513/aust-backs-free-trade-deals-with-uk-india/

Australian side done! Your move now UK!

“The bills easily passed the House of Representatives on Monday and the Senate made them law on Tuesday.

The deals need to be ratified by the respective British and Indian parliaments before they take effect. Neither nation has yet done that.”

https://journalnow.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/australia-ratifies-free-trade-deals-with-india-and-britain/article_35cb1f94-e2b2-580c-af80-fe8f9508c94d.html

So, when the deal is ratified on both ends, how long does it take for the visa age change to come into effect?

Are all parts of the deal instant after ratification or will they introduce certain things first? I get that it’s the trade part that’s the most important for the countries and the visa age limit change is probably the least of their worries.

I’m not too sure. Hoping someone else can answer that

We don’t know yet. It will come into effect within two years of the FTA entering into force.

So could be 01/01/23, 01/01/25 or any time in between.

Because it’s the first WHV to have the necessary work removed – and it was suggested that the impact of that be tested before it comes into effect – it may be delayed.

I have no information on the technicalities of it but I’m hoping that the age change and necessary work removal can be done separately.

Both countries have made it abudantly clear that they need more skilled workers and migration, so I am hoping it is changed ASAP!

Me too. I’m remaining optimistic that it’ll get done soon.

I’m hoping it will come into force soon. Otherwise I’ll only be able to do one, maybe two WHV.

Same here I wanted to travel and go to Australia for Christmas next year… my 31st birthday is august next year.

You can apply now if you’re 30. Why not do that?

Yes you should

Does anyone have any key dates or info on when the UK plans to ratify their end?

I haven’t looked into it recently but if it’s expected to enter into force on January 1st it would need to be before then and probably before Dec 1st. As per the agreement signed earlier this year it enters into force one month after both sides are ratified unless otherwise agreed upon.

I just had a look and couldn’t find any news on it. It’s worth keeping in mind that this deal isn’t very popular in the UK so the government will probably be inclined to keep things quiet until it’s signed to minimise bad press.

News of the Australian side getting signed had the UK farmer’s lobbying group complaining again. So don’t be surprised if news of its finalisation comes suddenly.

True, thanks for the update 🙂

Let’s hope it gets implemented soon! Thanks Charles

If the finalisation happens and the trade deal comes into affect – I’ve heard people say that certain aspects of the deal could be implemented at different times – if the deal is meant to benefit both countries greatly, then why would’nt they just do it all at once?

I’m guessing the majority of us on here are literally only waiting for the visa age change.

My mate left for Aus three weeks ago (Brisbane) on a WHV. He applied for I think 10 jobs over the course of a few days and 9 of them invited him for interviews….WOuld never get that here in the UK! Pay for jobs over there seems significantly higher, with basic jobs starting at like $20 an hour.

I simply cannot wait to go now! The only thing is, once I get my WHV, I will sell all my belongings for the extra cash but I know for a fact I won’t want to come home. I hope I can get employer sponsorship for permanent residency there. I need a new start in life and to be honest, I deserve it.

I’ve been so unhappy for the majority of my life and I’m 31 yrs old now…if I don’t get this opportunty to go, I’ve got nothing else going in my life. Still live at home, rubbish stressful job, ruined credit rating so will never be able to get a mortgage and single so cant move out and live on my own as this country is too expensive with crappy wages.

Sorry to rant about my life story but, like many on here, we may never get the chance to do this if the government takes too bloody long 🙁

I’m with you Dan. Can’t wait to go. Also still living at home and rubbish job. Need to change urgently.

I’m remaining hopeful this deal gets implemented for a start date of 1.1.23

The Guardian seems to the the work requirements won’t be removed until 2024.

“The relaxed requirements will not come into effect until at least 2024 as the deal has not yet come into force.”

What the Australian Government says about the date commencement for the new visa arrangements:

“Australia and the UK have agreed to put in place new arrangements under the Working Holiday Maker (WHM) program and Youth Mobility Scheme within two years of the entry into force of the Australia-United Kingdom Free Trade Agreement (Australia-UK FTA).”

So it’s confirmed that it will be within two years. That doesn’t mean it won’t happen immediately but also doesn’t mean it will. The wording from that article also gives the impression that both changes will start at the same time, which could delay things………………

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/what-we-do/whm-program/latest-news/arrangements-uk-passport-holders?fbclid=IwAR2ORDQ2UvEBxEqo3FLxIYvJMYxZKNNWZ2tCgYD8lvIEZKxJ0Fh7NUxJteY

That guardian article is quite old, I wouldn’t put any weight onto that (as it was before the deal was ratified)

I simply cannot wait that long if that’s the case. I need this to happen urgently :((

Just going to cross all my fingers until things are more clear

A good course of action might be to contact the government and ask if they know when the age change will occur. Now that the deal is a month or so away from entering into force they must have an idea of when this will be.

From my experience you will have to be persistent and talk to a few people before you get to the person who can give you answers.

For many of us I’m sure this would be a fresh start at least…I just wish I’d made my mind up a few years ago about this and not left it too late to decide that this is actually what I want.

I keep checking for updated news every day in the hopes that we can do this sooner rather than later 🙁

https://thewest.com.au/politics/india-free-trade-gets-new-year-green-light-c-9010551

Even India has green lighted the FTA with Australia to begin in the new year

WTF is taking so long with the UK. Too busy watching the world Cup it seems

Have you asked them?

Before the deal can be ratified by the UK the Trade (Australia and New Zealand) Bill needs to be passed. You can see what stage it is currently at in the link below:

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3152

Page was last updated 14 November

Also that includes the NZ FTA which is separate from the Australian one in terms of stages

I wouldn’t put too much weight on that

It’s called the Australia and New Zealand Bill so it looks like the one bill is intended to cover both FTAs. They may be ratified at different times but the necessary changes to British law seem to be getting made together.

If they’re separate bills what stage is the NZ one at relative to the Australian?

It also says “The Bill is now due to have its report stage and third reading on a date to be announced.”

I can’t find an announcement of the third reading so it looks like it’s still in the report stage.

If you can find anything to the contrary I’d be very happy though. I’d like to see this done soon.

https://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/not-yet-in-force/aukfta/news/jscot-supports-ukfta-legislation-passes-both-houses

I found this on the Australian govt website

“A-UKFTA will enter-into-force after Australia and the UK confirm with each other in writing that they have completed their respective domestic requirements.”

The UK’s domestic requirement is the Trade (Australia and New Zealand) Bill getting passed.

The UK government updates on that can be found here: https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3152

https://www.miragenews.com/australian-foreign-minister-to-visit-europe-and-907079/

So the Australian foreign minister is going to the UK to ensure the UK handle their part of the deal and make sure they sign it off.

Really pathetic on the UK part.

https://www.ft.com/content/bb70437e-b565-4415-a008-0c2424c0b0de

Significant article just written about the deal. Worth a read for those interested

What’s it say? Says I have to subscribe?

It was was essentially questioning whether the deal was worthwhile to the UK, and there are farmer groups protesting and singing petitions against the deal.

Very frustrating.

It is hard to understand why they agreed initially to then step back…

Report stage for the Trade (Australia and New Zealand) Bill is December 12th.

So it is nearly finished in the House of Commons. It then has to go through the same five step process in the House of Lords and after that get royal assent.

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3152/stages

So basically it could take forever seeing as it’s got to go through the House of Lords? What is the Royal assent, how long a process is that?

It could be finished in the HoC on the 12th or 13th of December as according to the link I posted as the “Report stage is usually followed immediately by debate on the Bill’s third reading.”

How long it will take to get through the HoL is anyone’s guess at the moment but from what I’ve read the first and second reading stages can be over in a day. The committee stage starts two weeks after the second reading and lasts around eight days. The report stage usually starts 14 days after committee stage has concluded and can be spread over several days (but is generally shorter than committee stage).

If there are no amendments to the bill in the HoL it goes for Royal Assent which is when some old billionaire whose father was also his cousin decides if it can become a law.

So from when it goes to the HoL we’re look at: First and Second Reading – 2 days Committee Stage – 14 days + 8 days = 22 days Report Stage – 14 days + 6 days* = 20 days Third Reading – 1 day Royal Assent – ?

Total = roughly 45 days to get through the HoL + Royal Assent

If the report and third reading stages are completed on the same day, it goes immediately to the HoL and we count full weeks not working days 45 days from December 12th is January 26th 2023. So it could get royal assent a few days after that.

*is an estimate given the information on the government website.

This is all info I got from literally a few minutes of googling. For this site to have been saying “The age limit for UK passport holders will be increased to 35 within the next few months (hopefully by the end of 2022)” for a while now maybe tells us that it isn’t a good source of information.

I don’t see this getting done until end of Jan unfortunately, the UK are dragging their heels and we all know they don’t like this deal. And even then, the age changes might not even come into effect. Might look at Canada instead

Not holding my breath anymore

Don’t you need to be 30 or under for Canada as well?

No it’s 35

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/indiaaus-trade-pact-in-force-from-dec-29-101669831260466.html

Not relevant but the Australia-India FTA seemed to get implemented at warp speed compared to the UK one. Visa changes and all

Well, that’s positive for us! Hopefully we’ll get the immediate visa change too.

Report stage/ 3rd Reading of the Aus/NZ bill is the 12th of Dec. With the procurement act 3rd reading on the 13th in the House of Lords. This will enact and superseed this bill.

We might, just might. Get this done before Christmas should all be well.

Cheers Bradley.

If I understand correctly does that mean the Procurement Act getting passed in the HoL will also bring the Aus/NZ bill into effect?

“The Procurement Bill is expected to repeal the Trade (Australia and New Zealand) Bill as enacted, although retaining the changes this Bill introduces.”

I guess so?

Losing hope….I can’t find any info on getting a WHV in Canada for UK citizens, I end up on those visa agency things. You got any useful links for that?

Also, if anyone wants to add me on Facebook for a chat, you’re more than welcome to 🙂 I promise I’m not a weirdo

Does this mean anything?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63808657

https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=923

Sorry, I think the age limit for 35 is for Australian citizens. UK is 30

Thank you 🙂

Are you an Australian citizen then?

Yes I am an aussie desperately trying to get the UK (crazy right)

I turn 36 in August so hence why I’m so frustrated with the delays

Wanna trade places Losing Hope? We could do a straight swap of countries

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1704680/brexit-boost-farmers-australia-trade-deal-dairy-cheese

Anecdotal, but this article suggests the FTA will start early next year… Been hearing that for months now

I wouldn’t trust anything the Express says. It’s a rag and basically just a rip off of the Daily Mail. However, I believe more reputable news sources have reported a similar thing.

Losing hope I really don’t know why you’re stressing about the UK! It’s an absolute *hitshow of a county.

I assumed you were trying to get to Australia. Honestly explore the Canada option!

Couldn’t agree with you more Karl. I actually thought you (Losing Hope) were trying to escape the UK…not come to it.

Economy is f**ked, housing market is, job market is horrendous, weather cant make its mind up, police are now woke and too afraid to do anything, stabbings in London left right and center, cant park anywhere for free except your own driveway. Did I miss anything out?

But I guess it’s one of those Grass is greener things?

Agree guys, I must be mad

Also I hear illegal immigration is rampant over there and the country is unrecognisable as a result

Try and convince me otherwise haha

Net migration is at an all time high which would imply there’s still many good reasons to go to the UK.

The UK isn’t unrecognisable, I recognised it just fine after five years out of the country. There were also crime waves before people started using the term “woke”.

I think you’ll have a good time there. Change your place change your luck as the saying goes.

I still plan to go. But cannot wait around forever for this to be enacted. So I have Canada as plan B

You’re welcome. It’s always good to have a plan B.

To be honest the only thing I noticed as being different in the UK is that some people and media outlets now more openly display their bigotry and lack of compassion. Which is a disappointing.

Oh, and you can get in trouble for holding up anti-royal signs which is both terrifying and hilarious.

Having said that it’s one of the biggest economies in the world, has a lot of nice people, a lot of diversity, it’s pretty high up freedom indexes (not counting the royal nonsense) and even has a few days of sun a year. So it’s not all bad.

I’m trying to read up on the Procurement Act and how it will enact and superseed the Aus/NZ bill. Have you got any links that would be useful? I think I’m probably looking in the wrong places. Thanks in advance.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/lord-ian-botham-visits-australia-to-boost-trade

Thanks for sharing

“It’s an exciting time to host Lord Ian Botham, the UK Prime Minister’s Trade Envoy to Australia. We have huge momentum with the UK-Australia Free Trade Agreement due to enter into force early next year and CPTPP negotiations progressing. If you are a British company looking to expand then come to Australia!”

I predict the deal will be ratified by the end of January and will enter into force 30 days after (end of Feb/beginning of March)

I’m 34 and already had one WHV in Australia and I leave home to start travelling South East Asia at the end of January and praying the visa changes happen before June 2023 and I can apply for my 2nd WHV while I’m travelling.

Does anyone know if I would be able to enter Australia on a tourist visa and apply for my 2nd WHV while in Australia? (Providing thebl changes have happened)

Thanks Jonny

All the info about the second WHV can be found here:

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/work-holiday-417/second-working-holiday-417

75% of applications are processed in eight days or less so getting one from outside wouldn’t take very long if you were in a rush to get to Australia.

We might find it gets ratified even sooner than late January given the third reading of the Procurement Act is in a week.

Thank you Charles! I really hope so 🙂

You’re welcome. Me too!

Fingers crossed, Charles.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-12-07/uk-signs-third-us-state-trade-pact-in-absence-of-a-broader-deal

UK signed a trade deal with the US

As usual, the Australian FTA was scruitined

Hi, I got delayed getting to Aus because of COVID. I’m just about to turn 32 and made it here for my first year WHV (UK citizen). It looks like I’m too old to apply for the 2nd year, is this the case? If so I won’t stress finding the right work.

Hopefully the new 35 visa kicks in and I can switch over to that one, but guess no news on how that works yet?

Hi Hannah, for now yes you are over the age limit. But once the FTA enters into force you ll be able to renew (without working in eligible jobs). Cheers

https://www.sbs.com.au/language/hindi/en/article/australia-to-offer-backpacker-visa-for-young-indians-within-two-years/jsz3d33z6

This is a bit worrying to be honest. The India Australia FTA is starting December 29, but the visa changes won’t be done until 2 years

This gives me no hope for the UK australia FTA, it will still be a waiting game even if the deal gets done by the end of the year.

Something to keep in mind is that India doesn’t currently have a working holiday visa arrangement with Australia so implementing it would require training, new digital infrastructure for processing and possibly recruiting and hiring new people.

For the UK/Australia it requires changing a number in the system from 30 to 35 and no longer having to assess whether people have done 88 days of necessary work. So in theory it is much, much more simple. That doesn’t mean it will go through immediately but it will be a lot less hassle for both sides to implement.

Agree Charles, that is a very good point.

Australia and the UK already have a system in places for many years now.

If the work requirement wasn’t being removed at the same time it would just be changing 30 to 35 in the system like they’ve done for five countries previously.

From the response Bradely got from the British government it seems like the decision on when the age change happens is up to Australia. Australia needs more workers and people aged 30-35 are more likely to valuable skills. They lose some of the people doing the necessary work but also gain people with higher skill levels. From my point of view getting the age change done seems like a good idea. We’ll see what happens though.

As you’re an Australian citizen have you considered contacting the government and asking them if they have a timescale in mind for the visa changes once the FTA enters into force? The government works for you after all and the fact that people are asking might just get to ear of the right person.

To be honest I don’t know where to begin to ask. I will have a look into this though

The Trade Minister’s office is probably a good place to start also immigration. They may already know when it’s expected to happen.

Thanks for the quote and I think you’re right. I’m not an expert but from what I understand the Procurement Act gives the govt the power to change certain rules so as to meet the requirements of trade agreements. It’s effectively more powerful than the Aus/NZ Bill but will also retain the changes that bill makes.

So as soon as the Procurement Act is passed the UK govt can make the changes necessary to be able to ratify the FTA. It looks like the Procurement Act still has to go through the House of Commons though and I don’t know how long that will take.

Hi everyone, I contacted my local MP and asked him the question regarding if the visa changes will happen straight away or if we would be waiting for up to 2 years from EIF and his understanding was that the changes would happen quite quickly. Hopefully this will give us all the news we need once UK finish the ratification ☺️

Excellent news! I’m 36 in Feb 2024 so hopefully I can get 1 year (which would be wonderful)

Hopefully, like others have said we should know a bit more end of Dec / beginning of January?

I can’t remember if this was ‘in progress’ at the committee stage or the ‘report stage’…somethings changed on the page but I can’t work out what…. https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3152

The committee stage has been completed but it was incorrectly marked as being in progress in the report stage, it looks like that was corrected. The report stage won’t be in progress until the 12th.

The report stage is followed immediately by the third reading and then it goes to the HoL. Given that they’re just about to pass something that supersedes the Aus/NZ Bill it might fly through if we’re lucky.

Jonny that is excellent! Thanks for taking the time to do that.

Who is your MP and did they give any indication of what “quite quickly” means?

Hi Charles, my local MP is Ian Levy and I asked him if they visas would change straight away and his words were “that would be my understanding”

It’s a positive thing if my MP doesn’t think there will be any delay to the visa changes, but again we just need to see it in black & white on the gov websites

Hey Jonny, that’s very encouraging. Thanks again for asking.

I also totally agree we need it in writing before we can believe it. The day the number next to British passports changes from 30 to 35 on the Australian immigration website I’ll be very happy.

When are you planning to go to Australia? I’m leaving UK and travelling Thailand and Vietnam at the end of January and going to just stay out there until the visa changes and head to Australia

I plan on going as soon as I’m able. So hopefully within a week or two of the age change happening. It sounds like we might be two of the first over-30s to arrive.

Haha let’s hope! Fingers crossed we hear some more news next week then

https://www.canzukinternational.com/2022/12/help-us-advance-free-movement-with-the-uk-australia-trade-agreement.html

Very interesting page

Therefore, CANZUK International is calling on Australian and British residents to use our online contact form and get in touch with the Australian and British International Trade Ministers. The online form includes a pre-drafted email emphasizing the need for freer movement between the two nations under the Free Trade Agreement

https://www.canzukinternational.com/uk-australia-fta

Guys, please fill in the template here and share to anyone you know wishing to move abroad. The more the better, we need this ratified quickly

I have just sent mine and will add it to Facebook groups! Let’s hope it works!!

Just sent mine as well. Also added in a sob story in the hopes that makes a difference ☺️

Thanks guys

I’ve submitted it as I agree with the principle. From what I understand from reading it though the letter isn’t intended to speed up the UK-Aus FTA entering into force but to show a desire for greater freedom of movement between the two countries.

Thanks Charles, agree. At this stage willing to try anything to get clarity on the situation and speed it up, and we know know we can email the trade ministers directly now through this mechanism. Cheers

The third reading of the Procurement Bill is currently underway in the HoL as is the report stage of the Trade (Aus/NZ) Bill in the HoC. So things are moving.

Fingers crossed Charles we get some clarification this week

I don’t think we’ll hear anything this week both bills still have to go through the other house and get royal assent. They might move quickly but I doubt there will be any announcements re an expected date of ratification. I’m inclined to believe the government will keep quiet until it’s done. I might be wrong though………

It’s becoming a joke how long this has taken. The Australian side got this done in a couple of weeks

This thread has been really helpful and I’ve kept up to date for over a year now – so thanks to everyone who’s posted. It’s given me hope knowing I’m not the only one waiting for this.

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3152/news

Updated today. Hopefully move to next stage soon.

Fingers crossed 🙂

Updated today:

Hopeful. Thanks for everyone who has posted over the year or so. I’ve kept up to date the whole time and it’s been helpful knowing I’m not alone in wanting this to go through.

The Trade (Australia and New Zealand) Bill has been passed by the House of Commons and has completed the first reading in the House of Lords.

Does parliament close for Xmas during UK? Hoping this gets done before then……

Yes losing hope, I believe it’s the 20th December to 9th Jan

House of Commons: 21st of December to 8th of January House of Lords: 22nd of December to 8th of January

https://whatson.parliament.uk/nonsittingperiods/

4 more working days to get this done otherwise a long wait til the new year

HoL haven’t had the second reading yet. It seems unlikely to get done before the new year.

I’ve just found this thread and I’ve found it really useful. Fingers crossed the age limit increases in the first half of next year..

Yes definitely ! Thanks guys for sharing !

Hence my username. This is dragging on

Big thanks to those of you posting updates and info, I’m another eagerly awaiting the age change and have been viewing this page often. In regards to the readings in the house of lords, do we know how many of those are required? The 2nd being scheduled for 9th Jan, do we think that is the final reading and final remaining stage of this process?

Thanks again to all of you, as Ellie said it’s comforting to know there are so many of us in the same position 🙂

Thanks all for sharing info on this page!

Well, I think there’s no need to lose hope as this will definitely get done. Just not before Christmas by the looks of it. If anything now is the time to have more hope than ever before.

Posted on the 9th. Might explain why things have jumped forward a bit this week:

“Mr Farrell is also heading to London over the weekend, and hopes that come Monday he will be watching the House of Commons finally ratify the Australia-UK FTA, which has been delayed by Britain’s extended bout of political turmoil.”

https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/australia-in-six-month-sprint-for-an-eu-trade-deal-20221209-p5c4y3

Just to clarify, house of commons stage is before house of Lords? How can the FTA be ratified at the house of common stage?

There are two bills currently tabled that will allow the British Govt to ratify the FTA when one of them is passed: The Trade Bill and the Procurement Bill. The former started in the HoC the latter in the HoL. Once a bill is passed by one house it has to then be passed by the other before getting royal assent.

The Trade Bill is the furthest along as it was passed in the HoC this week and is now going through the same process in the HoL.

Right I understand now.

Let’s hope it gets through on Monday

HOL second reading is booked for 9th January

Was hoping for before Xmas! Best case we’re looking at is probably Feb at this rate! Snails pace

Yep very disappointed

The second reading of the Procurement Bill in the HoC is also set for the 9th of January. Looks like the government decided they needed a nice long holiday before they did any more work on either of these bills haha.

I’m 31 and I’m in australia just now on a working holiday visa. Could I do my 88 days and apply for my second year?

Hi Daniel, which passport do you hold? If you are from UK the FTA has not entered into force yet… so you wont be able to apply for a second year until it is the case. Cheers

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/23188805.tim-farron-mp-votes-trade-deals/

Some UK ministers have voted against the Australia FTA. Wonderful…

Losing hope – in the link you shared It says only one voted against it?

I agree, it is wonderful because this has had zero impact on the FTA.

First, he’s an MP which means he’s in the House of Commons. The HoC has already passed the Aus/NZ Trade Bill. So his vote against it did nothing.

Second, the UK cannot pull out of this deal now without becoming a pariah. They will cause serious damage to their negotiating power in any deals they are currently working on and any they may want in the future. Their opposites from potential trade partners will be able to come to every negotiation able to demand very favourable terms as they will be able say that the UK has a record of pulling out of deals and can’t be trusted.

This trade deal is happening. The only thing we need to be interested in now is when.

Well explained there Charles. It’s just the when we are all eagerly waiting for nkw

I don’t want to get anybody’s hopes up but it’s worth keeping in mind that the UK and Australia don’t actually need the FTA to enter into force for them to increase the age on the WHV. The Procurement and Trade bills are required to allow trade to be carried out under the terms of the FTA but the visa age increase is an additional component of the deal that doesn’t require any new legislation. Look at the increases for Italy and Denmark in July.

Just something to think and maybe contact your local politician about.

I didn’t know this! Is this why the visa age change could take a long time then?

Why wouldn’t they just change it once the deal goes through?

I don’t see this getting done anytime soon based on how everything else has been handled

I don’t know what you mean by soon. But within the next few months would seem to be realistic from my understanding of things.

Need it to get done ASAP. Been waiting since December last year

Looks like the final working day of 2022 yielded no results in the UK parliament

An arduous wait lies ahead

Hey, the 2nd readings for both bills are on 9th January.

The government’s have said they expect the deal to EIF in the first quarter of 2023 so by 31/03/23.

I’m leaving the UK in January and travelling around South East Asia and hoping the changes will be made while I’m travelling.

It’s frustrating we have to wait but fingers crossed over the next couple of months everything is finalised.

The government also said it would be done by July 2022 but alas it wasn’t. You have to take everything they say with a grain of salt

To be fair, it was in the media but nothing in the government websites stated July 2022 but I know what you mean, a lot of kicking the can!

I have just emailed [email protected] and expressed strong urgency on the visa changes to happen. Worth putting it out there so they know people want it to happen asap

You’re right Jonny, it was the media (including this site) that was claiming July 2022. When you do a bit of digging you find they provided no evidence to support this and it was just speculation.

That’s a good idea. I’ll email them too.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Economy/Trade/U.K.-pushes-Indo-Pacific-trade-deals-to-next-year-as-dissent-grows

UK government asleep at the wheel

Hope everyone had a good Christmas and if you’re like me, hope it’s the last one in the country you are in. 🙂

Merry Christmas Dan

Hopefully in the next few months we will all be able to apply for our visas and celebrate!

I actually just read an article in the guardian and Australia want to increase the age limit to 50 haha!?

Merry Christmas everyone.

I’ve included a link to that article. It looks like they’re getting through the the applications very fast at the moment which is good news for when the age increases.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/dec/26/australias-tourism-body-wants-to-lift-working-holiday-visa-age-limit-to-50

When I see news like this it makes me question why they would wait up to 2 years to make the changes after EIF… Don’t want to get ahead of myself but this is a positive thing for us I hope

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1713930/Ian-Botham-Brexit-George-Eustice-Australia-trade-deal-economy

One positive article about the UK australia FTA

I’m from Australia. That change of age to 50 won’t happen anytime soon (if at all). The tourism board has no voice in Australia. They cried during the harsh lockdowns here in Australia and still nothing was done. I wouldn’t get my hopes up.

Lets concentrate our efforts into the 35 age increase. That’s what’s important

I agree Jonny. I’m also optimistic it will happen soon after EIF.

We just need to stay positive and hope both governments agree that the visa changes happening fast are a good move on both parties. 🙂

An email someone (I think it was Bradley) received from the British government implied that the decision on the date of the changes was mostly up to Australia. Given how desperate they are for workers at the moment I’m expecting it to work in our favour.

I called the Australian immigration office yesterday. They couldn’t tell me much but did say that the visa changes will happen within two years of December 2021. I’m taking that as another good sign.

I got through to someone immediately. Should anyone else wish to call them to show more people are interested their numbers are:

In Australia Phone: 131 881 ​​ Outside Australia Phone: +61 2 6196 0196​

I think I used extensions 1 then 3. According to the website you can contact them “Monday to Friday 9 am to 5 pm your local time”. So anyone in the UK shouldn’t need to worry about time differences.

Thanks for calling them Charles! At least it gives us confidence the changes will happen in 2023.

I will try and give them a call as well and see if I get the same answer 🙂

Cool, thanks Jonny! I’m interested to hear what they tell you.

Everything is still “if” and “maybe”. This is really becoming farcical

I didn’t speak to a member of the government just someone who works in the deptartment of immigration call center. They couldn’t really tell me more than the information they were given.

As you’re in Australia maybe you could ask your local politician what’s going on. They might give some more clarity to the situation and it would be very helpful for us all to know what they say.

I’ve just trawled through all the bills currently tabled in the House of Lords and the first one they will be working on when they return from their holiday is the Trade Bill. I’m taking this as another positive sign. If there are no amendments made to the bill in the HoL it could go through much quicker than it did in the HoC.

Where I did my research: https://bills.parliament.uk/

Hi Charles,

I also noticed on the UK gov website the most recent update on 9/12/22 and quotes:

Once the FTAs take effect, businesses and citizens all around the UK can start to feel the benefits, including:

new rules making it easier for Brits to live, travel and work in Australia and New Zealand.

No mention of it being within 2 years etc

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/australia-and-new-zealand-trade-bill-explainer/australia-and-new-zealand-trade-bill-explainer-web-version#:~:text=The%20Trade%20(Australia%20and%20New,its%20own%20independent%20trade%20policy .

Interesting. I had a bit of a dig on the “Benefits of the FTA” page that links to and couldn’t find anything regarding the 417 visa. Hopefully it’s a good sign.

It’s also worth noting that some bills can go from Second Reading in the HoL to Royal Assent in less than a week. So that’s something else to remain optimistic about.

Definitely 🙂

I have a proposal for everyone:

The Minister for Immigration, Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs is Andrew Giles. I propose that we all contact him asking something along the lines of:

“How long after the the UK-Australia FTA enters into force will the age increase to 35 for the Working Holiday visa (subclass 417) be made for British citizens?”

Maybe we should also mention that there are a lot of us keen to come and work in Australia. Given what Bradley learned from the British Government – that the visa changes will be at Australia’s discretion – Andrew Giles should have the most accurate information. It will also be good for him to realise that there are people out there who want these changes to happen ASAP. Never underestimate the power of a noisy minority!

So there you go. Tweet him, email him, call him and ask your friends and family to do the same. You never know, a little bit of effort on our part might make all the difference and have us all where we want to be in a month or two.

Twitter: https://twitter.com/andrewjgiles Email: [email protected] Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AndrewGilesScullin Electoral Office Telephone: +61 (03) 9497 9783 Parliament Office Telephone: +61 (02) 6277 7770

Hey guys, does anyone know if on the new visas there is the same rule of only working for one employer for a maximum of 6 months? Or does this change?

I think I read there was no limit, but I could be wrong if someone want’s to correct me?

They have relaxed the rules until 30/06/2023 so depending when the new rules come into force will determine if this will apply to the new visa 🙂 hope this helps

To add to what Jonny said: From what I understand the two changes are the age increase and the removal of specified work for British citizens. However, it is possible for employers to apply for an exemption if they want to keep you for longer than six months.

So, as long as there’s no ammendments to things we could be looking at very early 2023 for the visa changes?

Not trying to get my hopes up but do you guys think things kind of looking promising?

Fingers crossed that’s what happens. I do think the next couple of months are going to be big for finding out more details and hopefully we get the good news we’re all hoping for.

Looking at what we know, I think the trade deal with enter into force by March 2023 but don’t quote me on this.

Let’s hope so aye Johnny… Fingers and toes crossed

I agree with Jonny. I think EIF will be sometime between January 9th and the end of March. Some non-emergency bills have gone from second reading in the HoL to Royal Assent on the same day so you never know.

This is the things now, it’s all going to depend on the time between the remaining stages.

Second reading we know is on 9th of January then hopefully the committee stage following shortly after.

The report stage and third reading are usually on the same day.

On other bills, do we know if the considerations for amendments and royal assent to be at the same time?

https://www.ft.com/content/d81f6e4c-7716-44c2-a745-2b7a74089ede

UK missed its deadline to close all FTA’s in 2022

Haha, that’s a bit misleading. From the article:

“Britain’s government is poised to miss its target to seal deals covering 80 per cent of its trade with the rest of the world by the end of 2022.” “… instead the UK has so far only made deals covering just over 60 per cent of its global trade, according to government officials.”

With regard to the UK-Aus FTA we knew a couple of weeks ago that it wouldn’t be going through until 2023.

I’m just clinging on to hope now, as it’s all I’ve got.

I live with parents at 31 years old, I work a dead end job with no qualifications. Can’t afford to move out and live on my own on just over minimum wage. Credit rating absolutely ruined so will never get a mortgage in my lifetime.

My goal now is to get a WHV (hopefully 3) and pray, and I mean pray I can get sponsorship or the likes to get permanent residency there.

I hate my life at the moment and although Australia might not be for me, I’ll always be wondering what if should I choose not to at least try.

Australia is a great place to live. Weather, pay, lifestyle is amazing all year round

It’s very frustrating we have had to wait this long with no clear information of deadline in sight.

I am curious though Losing Hope, why do you want to come to the UK?

Just a sea change, I have lived here in Australia my whole life and am bored now. Other than that Australia in my opinion is a much better place to live, the pay is much higher, weather is better etc

I tried to make a bigger post about this but it’s still awaiting moderation for some reason:

The Australian Minister for Immigration, Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs is Andrew Giles. I suggest we all contact him regarding when the age change will happen. The more people he hears from the more it will be in his mind.

It’s the Working Holiday Visa (subclass 417) we’re asking about for anyone unsure.

https://www.andrewgiles.com.au/contact/

He is also on Twitter

OK email sent

Thanks Charles. I have sent an email to him also.

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/australia-reviews-visa-system-as-it-grapples-with-worker-shortage-after-strict-covid-rules-12777750

Review published February!! Let’s get some movement by then!

Definitely looks like it could be promising for the visa changes to happen fairly quickly if Australia are crying out for workers! Fingers crossed!!

My best friend went to Australia on 6th November 22, took 2 weeks holiday. In the meantime he applied for 9 jobs I think and had interview offers for 8 of them before taking the one he wanted within a few days.

He’s on really good money.

He just says it’s completely different over there compared to the UK.

Australia is awash with with jobs right now, and the pay is very high.

I hope this deal enters into force very soon, and that you all find work and happiness!

What kind of work is your friend doing, Dan?

Great to hear this kind of news!! Haha

I have done my 1st working holiday in Australia already and getting a job was so easy!

This is great news to hear work is available and I can’t wait to get there! I’m staying positive with the visas and hopefully by next month we will know what’s happening!

Losing Hope: I hope so too! 🙂

Jonny: Are you from the UK? How did you find Australia, is it as nice as people say? Also, my friend is a warehouse supervisor and on about $70k, now I’m a supervisor in a supermarket and on nowhere near aS much as that 🙁

Yeah I’m from UK, Newcastle upon Tyne

I absolutely loved Australia, so laid back and it’s got everything anyone would need!

I did my farm work and I loved the experience! Got to meet so many different people from all over the world and I was making about $1500 per week & considering you can’t spend your money in the outback I was able to save plenty!

When are you thinking of heading over?

Ah cool. Don’t think I’ve heard of anyone anywhere that’s had a bad experience of working in Australia!

Pretty much as soon as the visa age changes, I’m applying for the visa. So hopefully that won’t take too long to be granted then I’ll try and book flights out ASAP. I want to get the 1st one applied for soon as so I don’t leave it too late to get my 3rd one before I turn 36 if that makes sense.

My friend said if I look for work close to where he is, I could possibly stay in his and his wife’s spare room if I struggle to get sorted myself. I’d rather do it on my own for the experience, but it’s good to know I won’t be totally homeless

Australia pays exceedingly well

I don’t know too many people here who are poor or broke. Everyone has a very high standard of living

From what I’ve seen, the jobs over there pay over twice what they do here. Even basic shop work is more money there than here!

This is all sounding very positive!

Just a reminder to contact Andrew Giles and ask him when the age change will happen for anyone who hasn’t already. He should be back in the office today.

Thanks to everyone who already has. Never underestimate the power of a noisy minority to make a change!

Thanks Charles, as usual 🙂

Just a reminder to contact Andrew Giles and ask him when the age change will happen for anyone who hasn’t already. He should be back in the office today.

A link to his contact details can be found in my previous post.

Hopefully we get a reply from him with some positive info!! 🙂

Hi everyone,

I have just seen a screenshot of an email that someone posted on Facebook and it’s a reply from the Australian department of foreign affairs advising the changes will happen within 2 years of EIF and said they expect the changes to become live between Q3 2023 and Q1 2025.

I’m not sure what to think of this because surely the FTA will be in force before Q3 2023?

Not the best news but I’m not sure if this department just take orders from the Government? So, maybe they just don’t know much more than we do?

Still haven’t received any response yet from the immigration minister.

Jonny, that’s horrible news if true.

Looks like I need to be making alternative arrangements

Yeah it’s not what I want to hear either however, it wasn’t a definite just what they expect.

The page is Australia backpacker’s info

I think it’s both governments that will make the decision and the last thing was they expected the deal to enter into force by Spring so that’s the end of Q1 so not sure why they are saying Q3 :/

Also, what Facebook page are you looking at with such information?

There was a commentator on here before who contacted a UK minister and said that once the deal entered into force the visa age changes would happen quickly. There’s so much misinformation with this, it’s so hard to plan your life. This is become a joke.

Yeah that was me I contacted my local MP and that’s what he said.

This is why I think it’s best we just wait for an official announcement as there is a lot of conflicting information out there.

Fingers crossed we hear something worth getting excited about soon.

No worries, Jonny

We should get a clearer picture by the end of January as to what will happen.

Barring anything totally unexpected the FTA will enter into force in Q1 2023. The only step remaining is for the Trade Bill to get passed by the House of Lords and get Royal Assent. Given the time other bills have taken from second reading to Royal Assent this could be anytime between mid-January and mid-March. Even if it were to take as long as the slowest bills passed last year (which I think is unlikely) it would still be passed in Q2. I don’t think the issue is when the FTA goes through but when the governments decide to implement the visa changes.

Jonny, was that email from the Dept of Foreign Affairs sent recently?

Yeah I agree, the big question is when does both governments want to actually implement the visa changes.

I’m hoping behind closed doors they have already decided they will make the changes quick.

Yeah, looking at the screenshot the email was sent a couple of days ago. :/

Extremely disappointing news if true.

Looks like I’ll have to apply for the Ireland or Canada WHV in the next couple of weeks.

Surely the fta for 2025 is more to do with the deal with the meat trade as that’s gonna take a while to come into affect and plan ?

Wouldn’t of thought they would change the 35 cap within the year as they’ve done that with other countries so can’t see that being an issue.

The 3 years without farm work work is the issue I’m worrying about as I will have to farm for 3 months then hope deal comes in time for the 3rd year.

Everything’s hearsay until it official so let’s hope we get the news in a week or two.

I agree Lee, the issue is probably scrapping the farm work whilst the agriculture sector is crying out for backpackers. However, they have introduced other countries in the WHM scheme so I’m hoping this should fill the gap a bit.

We all need to just wait and see what both governments officially announce when the FTA comes into force I guess. Fingers crossed

First comments for this age change were July 2020. It is now Jan 2023 and this still hasn’t been changed yet. I think everyone needs to plan for the eventuality that this won’t come into effect until 2025. It’s becoming a farce.

I always think of the worst so anything better is a bonus – I am trying to stay hopeful that the age change will come into effect soon. Like you say, it was pretty much first discussed in 2020 so they may think to themselves that it’s been long enough now so lets just change it now.

Thinking of changing my name to ‘Clinging on to hope’ lol.

Always have a plan b and c

https://www.canzukinternational.com/2023/01/australia-to-raise-age-limit-for-working-visas.html

Nothing helpful but they want to raise the age to 50

I have emailed my Local MP again to ask for some kind of inside information haha.

The last time I emailed him he advised once the FTA was in force we would be able to go by the new visa rules and his understanding was the changes would be made straight away, however what we are reading online is conflicted what he said.

I have asked the direct question of why would either government delay making the changes happen straight away.

Also, I have asked if there is an specific dates being talked about regarding when they want to make the changes.

Let’s see what comes back.

Unfortunately, being a UK citizen, I can only find that Australia will be the only country I could get a WHV (once the age change happens) in.

According to a table of visa ages, all other countries require you to be 30 or under, if you are UK citizen that is.

Great idea. Thanks. Between your local MP and the Aussie Minister for Immigration we will hopefully get some clarification. If your MP doesn’t know for sure maybe he can direct you to someone who might or ask them himself.

They both should be back at work on Monday.

Has this guy written his blog incorrectly? It says in the first part that the age for UK citizens has already gone up!? This is wrong surely?

Yes, it’s wrong. Newspapers and blogs have been incorrectly reporting this for more than a year. It’s frustrating as it takes a couple of minutes to go to the link below and confirm it.

https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/work-holiday-417/first-working-holiday-417#Eligibility

I completed a 1-year 417 WHV back in 2013 then left Australia and only returned as a tourist.

I am 33 now and hoping to apply again when the age limit changes.

Does anyone know if having already had a WHV in the past affects applying for 2nd under the new regulations proposed?

Thanks in advance if anyone knows.

Hi Marc, no it wont be an issue and you will be able to apply for a second year (even if you didnt do the regional work). Cheers

Well, I thought I’d missed something there…I thought it had gone through and was confirmed. I almost cried thinking I could apply for my visa last night lol

We can all keep a close eye on the process of the trade bill going through the house of lords and loyal accent on this link.

The 2nd reading stage is tomorrow so fingers crossed it quickly moves onto the next stage after tomorrow. 🙂

Previously left a comment but I can’t see it now, apologies if it comes up twice.

I stayed in Australia on a 1-year WHV back in 2013. I am 33 now and plan to apply again when the age limit changes.

Does anyone know if having previously held a WHV will have an affect on my application under the newly proposed regulations?

Thanks in advance.

Hi Marc, replied to your other comment. Cheers

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/630917/sponsors/new?token=sdkdcecUVLZAGYsMR5kU

I have created this petition for the changes to happen on EIF. Anyone in the UK needs to sign it so we can be heard!!

Actually, I need 5 Signatures then they will update me and request another 21 signatures before sharing it more widely…

I will let you all know when to start signing haha

Just done it for you Jonny 🙂

I’ll sign it when you get it up

At this stage I’m not putting too much mental energy anymore into this visa situation, it’s better to just have no expectations and move on with my life as I’ve invested so much time into it for the last couple years.

Keep your head up mate! We are all due some luck.

Great idea Jonny. I’ll be signing and asking all my friends and family to do the same. When do we need to start?

Will you be posting it one the Facebook page where you saw the foreign affairs email too?

This is where I’m at with it…

“5 people have supported your petition so far. We’re checking your petition to make sure it meets the petition standards. If it does, we’ll publish it. This usually takes a week or less.

Once your petition has 21 signatures it won’t be able to add more until it’s been checked. So, please wait until it’s been checked and published before sharing it with lots more people.”

Just need to wait for it to be published so as soon as they email me I will let you all know when to sign

Charles – yeah I’m going to share it on all the Australia pages I can find. One of them have 239k followers so hopefully will get plenty signatures from this.

It’s worth a shot

Definitely worth a shot!

Cool, I’ll wait to hear from you when I can sign.

The second reading in the HoL is today. Let’s hope they have no amendments.

What’s the odds by the end of today the reading never happens? Based on how everything has been handled by the UK government, its possible

Yeah I have my fingers crossed they schedule the committee stage asap!

Losing hope – it’s definitely happening as it’s on the house of lords timetable for today. 🙂

Watched part of the live feed today while they was going back and forth they mentioned that the committee stage and 3rd reading would be done over the next few weeks

If that’s the case it’s looking like a March entry into force then.

Just want some info on the visas haha

Why do things in the UK take so long? The Australian side of the deal was ratified over 2 weeks.

I agree. If the third reading is a few weeks away we’re looking at late Feb early March for it to be passed and EIF a month later. Both sides can agree to EIF sooner so there’s a possibility it could happen immediately after receiving Royal Assent. They don’t exactly need extra time to prepare for it, it’s not like it will have happened suddenly .

The Australian side got handled in 2 weeks. UK government dropping the ball as usual.

Losing hope, while I was watching they kept on mentioning how Australia have had a such a good deal and the U.K. haven’t and how the meat market especially is going to hurt local farmers and carbon footprint a lot of them wasn’t happy. So I think this is why it’s took so long and even watching the live feed could tell they was dragging their feet on it.

You can watch it via Twitter or Facebook page, but again didn’t really mention anything mainly the meat produce. But like I said they’re looking to get it sorted in the next few weeks. It seems. One mentioned that they hope to get 2/3 of the deals done in the first quarter of the deal. (USA,China,Australia/New Zealand)

One of the lords did mention the visa briefly and he said it’s a great thing and they hope to increase the ages with other countries when negotiating trade deals.

No info on when it will happen but at least they are very positive about it

That is positive. Did you catch their name by any chance? Given that now is the time the lords will be making amendments to the bill it might be worth trying to contact them. I’m not sure if this bill covers the WHV (I doubt it) but if we can get the ear of one person who already views it positively it could make some difference. They’re in the government talking to people very day after all.

Australia definitely did not get it done in two weeks.

The bill was first tabled in February 2022 in Australia and didn’t get passed until November 16. It took the Australian JSCOT two and a half months alone to process it. The first reading of the bill in the UK was May 2022.

Both governments have taken their time with this.

Committee stage is on 23rd January 🙂 looks to be moving a lot fast than it did in the HoC

Hopefully it will move quickly onto the next stages after that…and we will FINALLY get an answer….hopefully!

Well after committee will be the report stage and 3rd reading at the same time then to Royal assent and into law nearly there

This is all looking good. Committee stage is coming much faster than average for non-emergency bills.

With regard to us getting an answer:

I called the office of Andrew Giles (the Immigration Minister) today. The person that answered wasn’t able to give me any information other than what is already online. When I asked if he is able to make any decisions regarding when the age change happens they responded “I’m not able to answer that”.

Now is the time to start making some noise. If they get more calls regarding the age change for Brits it should get pushed up the chain. So if you can I’d encourage everybody to give the office a call and ask when it will happen. The previous immigration minister was first to announce the age change for Italians and Danes so this is where the announcement regarding ours should come from.

Andrew Giles Office: +61 (03) 9497 9783

10pm UK is 9am in Melbourne where his office is located.

2 weeks after a reading is considered “much faster”?

There are still multiple stages remaining until final sign off.

It’s withing the normal time frame and not delayed.

Also, the next two stages happen at the same time (report stage and 3rd reading)

Then it’s royal assent.. so we aren’t far away now 🙂

Committee Stage can last up to a week and then Report Stage occurs once again, 2 weeks after that! I think a reasonable time frame would be for this bill to be done by end of Feb/ early March best case scenario.

Will have to wait and see though however, as this thing has taken its time!!

I think as we’ve been waiting so long for this, even a few weeks is seen as a long time.

I’m optimistic we will be hearing some good news by March. Still a bit of time away yet but at least it’s getting somewhere now In my opinion.

An ideal outcome would be they flick the visa switch to 35 at 01/03/23. But seeing as how this has been handled and all the waiting and misinformation, it would be just my luck that its 2025 instead.

This might be good news for us. It looks like the new Australia/India visa changes are happening around March time however, until now they also said it would be within 2 years.

If they are changing it that fast from EIF hopefully it will be the same for us.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/india-uk-sign-and-exchange-letters-for-young-professionals-scheme/article66357816.ece

Sorry, ignore me. This is UK and India they are talking about.

My petition has been published guys!

You need to be a UK Citizen to sign so if we can all share the link below and push to get as many signed as possible! 🙂

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/630917

Just this minute signed it Johnny

Cheers Dan 🙂 try and get any friends and family members to sign it as well 🙂

We have 17/100,000 signatures so far haha

Thanks Jonny, appreciate you doing this. Unfortunately I’m in Australia and cannot sign, but hoping it gathers momentum.

No worries at all, anything to try and help get what we all want haha.

I’ve viewed the petition on the map and noticed there are a few signatures near me. Gwent, Ogmore and Caerphilly. I’m in the Vale of Glamorgan. Just wondered if it’s anyone on here? Would be good to connect.

I hate to bring down any optimism within this group but I also ended up contacting the Australian department of foreign affairs and trade and they also confirmed in writing that the age changes would happen sometime between Q3 2023 and Q1 2025.

So it appears it is not as simple as just ‘changing the ages over to 35’

Can you copy and paste the email here? It would be interesting to see the wording.

With regard to the age change: it’s just changing the number from 30 to 35 in the system at the same time as the partner country. It’s been done five times already. The likely cause of the delay is the removal of the specified work requirement as there was discussion in the Australian government during Q1-Q2 2022 about the need to research its potential impact before implementation.

Dear _______

Thank you for your correspondence of 3 January 2023 to the Minister for Immigration, Citizenship, and Multicultural Affairs, the Hon Andrew Giles MP, concerning the implementation of the changes to the Australia’s Working Holiday Maker (WHM) visa under the Australia-United Kingdom Free Trade Agreement (A-UKFTA). Your enquiry was referred to the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade for response.

The A-UKFTA will enter into force (EIF) after the completion of domestic legal and parliamentary processes by both Australia and the United Kingdom (UK). Australia passed the necessary legislation in November 2022. The timing for passing legislation in the UK is dependent on the UK Parliament and we hope this will occur as early as possibly in 2023.

Once both Australia and the UK have completed their internal processes, we (Australia and the UK) then exchange notifications and the A-UKFTA will then EIF 30 days later (or another mutually agreed date).

The changes to WHM visa will commence within two years of EIF. Therefore, we expect that the changes will be in place ona date between Q3 2023 and Q1 2025. For further information on the changes to the WHM, please visit the Department of Home Affairs website: https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/what-we-do/whm-program/latest-news/arrangements-uk-

passport-holders. | trust this information is of assistance.

Yours sincerely Edwina Stevens

Assistant Secretary, FTA Services Branch Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade

Again seems like a generic reply and doesn’t really state if it will or not. Best thing is just waiting till it’s finalised. I can’t see why they wouldn’t change the age range as they need more people.

May be generic but if those dates hold any weight, then we are f’**d

It does seem like a generic reply. Saying something without saying anything really.

Before anyone panics though; Q3 2023 is June this year. Four and a half months away and the same amount of time as from the start of September until now.

EIF will most likely be very late Q1 or early Q2 2023 so changing the age three months after EIF probably seems pretty quick to both governments.

Most importantly, I find this quite revealing; “we expect that the changes will be in place ona date between Q3 2023 and Q1 2025″. It’s their expectation, they didn’t say”It will happen between these dates”. So seems like they don’t have any concrete info yet either. Just like the Danish and Italian changes this could come out of the blue.

I really hope it’s not in 2 years. Not sure what other country I could go to at this age

Dan, you don’t just have to hope. You can contact your local MP to ask when it will change and express your desire for it be immediate. You can also contact the UK’s immigration minister.

The petition is a great but it requires 100,000 signatures before all the MPs become aware of it. You can make one aware of the situation this week. I don’t live in the UK but have asked my family to contact theirs on my behalf.

I will contact my local MP tomorrow.

Been looking online to see if anyone is sponsoring jobs….I’m desperate but don’t know how it all works so gave up haha.

Great! I look forward to hearing what they say.

Sponsorship is a bit of a nightmare. Not impossible if you have a degree or trade but the easiest route is by going in on the WHV and then getting sponsored by a company in Australia (normally one you’ve already been working for). From what I understand at least.

I have a degree and over 10 years of experience in finance, and I’m still finding it near impossible for any employer to sponsor me on a tier 2 visa in the UK.

Australia isn’t much better to be honest. It’s not impossible but it’s definitely not easy

https://www.beefcentral.com/news/ag-minister-flys-out-in-push-to-finalise-trade-deals/

Australian minister flying out to hurry the deal along…

UK taking their sweet f’n time

The deal will be done pretty soon and the UK’s bill passing process is not something we can have any impact on at this time.

From now on I’m going to be focusing my energy on trying to get the age change done ASAP as that’s something we might be able to change .

I’m sure this has been mentioned before, but what would be the reason once the deal is ratified/in place etc they wont just change the visa age limit there and then?

There’s myriad reasons they wouldn’t immediately change the age; not feeling any need to rush or governments/civil services just moving slowly is a good example.

I can only think of one reason where they might be in a position where they couldn’t immediately change it though: During the discussion around the FTA in Australia it was mentioned that the removal of specified work should be investigated to establish its impact before implementing it. However, there are two things I’m not clear on:

1. Whether this is binding and must be carried out or is just a recommendation. 2. Whether the age change and removal of specified work are coupled and must be changed at the same time or can be done separately.

So there’s potential for delays coming from the Australian side but I’m not 100% certain. There’s probably someone on here better informed on this aspect of the deal than me so hopefully they can fill in the blanks.

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/immigration/uk-india-young-professionals-scheme-no-sponsor-no-job-necessary-for-two-year-stay-9869921.html

Seems like other countries agreements making progress except the Australia-UK agreement

That isn’t true.

The Second Reading took place on the 9th of January and the Committee Stage is set for the 23rd of January. Both the House of Commons and House of Lords have carried out every stage of the bill on the day it was scheduled so far.

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/watt-flies-to-uk-to-push-free-trade-deal-over-the-line-20230118-p5cdno

Agriculture Minister Murray Watt has jetted to London as part of a government push to inject a sense of urgency into Britain’s ponderous passage of the Australia-UK free trade agreement.

That just says that progress is slow not that progress isn’t happening. Remember that “slow” is subjective, it’s slow for us and the Australian government (now that they’ve passed their side) because we want it ASAP. Keep in mind too that the UK government has so far only taken eight months since starting proceedings on this bill, Australia took nine.

It’s unrealistic to expect there to be any announcements in between stages. This is because between stages no work is being done on the bill or the what is isn’t ready for release. You can keep up to date with the process in the link in my previous post.

For anyone who may be getting concerned by negative posts:

The UK government are working on passing the bill needed to bring the FTA into force. There are a total of five stages left until the bill is passed and some of the stages often happen on the same day. The next stage is scheduled for the 23rd of this month.

It’s apparent that the UK government have been dragging their heels tremendously on this deal.

The political turmoil hasn’t helped either with the changing of 3 heads of government in the space of months

I’m literally leaving the UK on Sunday to start backpacking through South East Asia for several months so I’m hoping we get some news while I’m there otherwise I’ll be getting a tourist visa and just visiting Australia..

Good luck Jonny!

Asia is an amazing place and you’ll have a great time!

Fingers crossed everything works out!

Cheers Bradley! I’ll keep in contact on here while I’m away as I will be keeping an eye on any updates!

Let’s all hope for some good news by March when the FTA comes into force

Best of luck Jonny. Have a great time and thanks again for setting up the petition.

Thanks Charles! Thanks for all your input.

Let’s hope we all get to Australia soon enough and can all meet for a beer haha

Have a good time Jonny, I will be doing south east Asia for 3 months and will love some recommendations. Have a good time!

Cheers Lee! When are you doing it Lee?

I’m going to open a YouTube channel to be fair if you guys want to follow it haha (I’ll post the link once I have got it going)

Not till September! Going to 3 months then east coast for a month then either work or farm work depending on what happens as I’m 31 in august! I’m just over thinking that there’s going to be loads of younger people and I will stick out like a sore thumb while travelling haha!

And yes send it over.

https://www.sheepcentral.com/australian-shearing-contractors-wait-for-uk-visa-rule-changes/

Pretty good article, we aren’t just the only ones waiting for the visa changes with keenness

‘Ms Hiri said she knew of UK shearers and shedhands who wanted to come to Australia but could not because they were older than 30 years.

“There are a few of them that want to come over, but can’t, because of their age and they’re unsure how to apply for a visa.”

I have upmost faith in the Australian minister and him pressuring the UK government to get this through urgently. Its dragged on for far too long

This is the kind of thing we need! Sectors crying out for the changes, not just us backpackers!

Hopefully it will be heard by the government on both side and ensure the changes happen this year! Fingers crossed

Or if they are concerned about the impact it may have on the farming side of by removing the farm work, why not lower the amount of farm work needed.

If there are so many of us wanting to go then it wouldn’t be that bad in my opinion haha

I think they’d be more likely to change the age but keep the specified work. Which would be fine by me; it’s not all farm work and it’s only for three months.

See I need both changed as I have already been on my first year visa but lost proof of the farm work 🙁

Have you asked the station you worked on or Australian tax office if they have a record of it?

Can they go against making the change around farm work or ‘specified work’? Having made the initial announcement that it would be removed?

It’s part of the FTA so I don’t think so. Unless there’s some provision that would allow them not to – like the negative impact on industry being too great. You’d need to read the FTA to be sure though.

I’m in a similar situation as Jonny.

Already completed my first year, without doing Farm Work.

Me and my partner spent 9 months in North Queensland in Hospo and would have qualified for second year under these current conditions!

We would love to go back to the place we worked and complete the 88 days but cannot, and we would stay longer we had such a great time!

https://www.wionews.com/world/more-student-visas-not-part-of-india-fta-says-uk-trade-secretary-kemi-badenoch-554833

Brief mention of the visa here

https://www.parliament.uk/business/news/2023/january-2023/lords-considers-trade-australia-and-new-zealand-bill/

Today’s proceedings

Lee, Jonny and Bradley

This is what I’ve found re the removal of specified work:

“The UK and Australia have agreed commitments that will result in unprecedented changes to existing Youth Mobility Schemes. These changes include making them available to nationals no older than 35 for a total stay of up to three years, without having to undertake specified work including regional work, for example on a farm. The change will be introduced within two years after entry into force to monitor any impact on the agriculture sector and ensure alternative workforce opportunities are in place.”

I find the wording pretty confusing. Are they going to introduce the changes and then monitor it? Or wait to introduce the changes and monitor things in the meantime? Also they refer to the “changes” – age and specified work – and then “change” – specified work only. So are they going to be made separately or together?

https://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/negotiations/aukfta/australia-uk-free-trade-agreement-negotiations-frequently-asked-questions-august-2022

Yeah I have read this and I think it will all happen at the same time but the date won’t be confirmed until the FTA is in force.

Australia is crying out for skilled and unskilled workers so hopefully behind closed doors they are planning on making the changes happen fast to help tackle the work shortage.

The “within 2 years” timeframe has been set like this since they originally announced the changes so hopefully since then they have a decision to announce:)

https://www.canzukinternational.com/2023/01/uk-house-of-lords-begin-detailed-check-of-australia-new-zealand-bill.html

Thanks again for the update! It again it seems like they dangle the carrot stick in front of you but not telling you exactly when or what exactly is happening, I don’t think they even know until the bill has been completed, but I guess it’s got to come from Australia also.

Anyone know when they next stage will be completed or Scheduled for ?

Think it’s also true once it’s complete we have to wait a month also after that ?

The date for the report stage hasn’t been set yet but expect it to be announced in the next few days. The report stage and third reading normally happen on the same day so there’s just that, a day bouncing between HoC and HoL for the amendments to be approved and then royal assent.

The FTA states that it will enter into force one month after both sides have made the necessary changes to their laws unless otherwise agreed upon. So they could agree that it will EIF the day after royal assent, we just don’t know yet. I would assume it will be a month after though and be pleasantly surprised if not haha.

Let’s hope it’s not another arduous 2 week wait

Committee Stage can last up to a week in HOL.

So don’t expect any update until that unfortunately.

Some Labour Lord (shock) has come with a load of amendments to the bill, so have to see how it plays out.

I had the amendment count (including joint amendments) at Labour 28, Lib Dems 7, Tories 3.

A lot of the Labour lord’s amendments are impact assessments that take place after EIF, others were small changes to wording. The impact assessments relate to things like climate change, labour rights and the NHS.

For example: “Within one year of the passing of this Act, the Secretary of State must publish— (a) a review of the lessons learned from the negotiation of the procurement Chapters”

I was surprised the Tory Lords didn’t want investigation into the impact on British farmers. They must have been too busy selling faulty PPE or something……………….

Fingers crossed it doesn’t hold up play too much, as we know HOL can play funny buggers sometimes!

Yeah, hopefully this stage will go quickly.

Taking the opportunity to make these amendments makes sense if I’m being honest. The FTA might benefit me personally but there’s not a lot of good evidence that it will benefit the majority of British people. Wanting assessments of it’s impact that can inform future trade deals seems reasonable.

These amendments should have been put in place in the HOC.

People in the HOL have agendas and know they can stall things. These “assessments” are just one way of doing that.

They know as soon as this deal is in place Brexit is complete and there will be no going back. Some people in some quarters don’t want that.

The report stage is said to usually be 2 weeks after committee stage but doesn’t usually take as long as it does in HOC.

To be fair, we are at the report stage/third reading already this month.

It’s going light speed compared to when it was in HOC.

Fingers crossed guys!!

Committee stage complete!!

Hopefully report stage date soon!

https://www.newsroom.co.nz/uk-push-for-more-maori-pasifika-to-access-holiday-visa-scheme

Mentions at the bottom of this article, New Zealand visa changes may happen before the end of this year….. Surely Australia will see this as competition?

From the NZ immigration site:

“Both sides are committed to the improved scheme being in place no later than 2024.”

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/about-us/media-centre/news-notifications/the-united-kingdom-and-new-zealand-have-agreed-to-enhance-their-existing-youth-mobility-scheme-and-working-holiday-scheme

So does this mean both age range and no farming for 3 years before the end of the year ?

I wouldn’t trust any site as gospel at the moment, until its officially announced

There’s no mention of specified work just that you can currently only work for one year but that will be extended to three under the new scheme.

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/new-zealand-visas/apply-for-a-visa/about-visa/united-kingdom-working-holiday-visa

All quiet on the progress of the FTA since the 23rd. Nothing I can find anywhere

As Jonny said it could take up to two weeks so I’d wait till end of next week.

Ridiculous time frame

Just a reminder: the Australian Joint Standing Committee on Treatise (JSCOT) started their review of the FTA in March 2022 and took so long that it wasn’t completed before the election which the then-government decided to hold before completing their side of the deal for some reason. The new government then didn’t convene a new JSCOT until July 2022 after which they promptly went on holiday. They also took another two week holiday during a scheduled two week sitting period for the JSCOT because the Queen died and then finally got around to issuing their report in November.

I’m not saying this to defend either side, it feels like they’ve both taken a long time to get this deal finished. I think it feel that way because I’m waiting for something that will personally benefit me though. They’ve both passed other bills that have taken similar, equally long, amounts of time in the last year and I haven’t felt remotely frustrated by it. This deal is very close to EIF now, all we have to do is wait a little bit longer.

There generally aren’t announcements between one stage and the next. They carry out a stage and then there is silence until the date of the next is announced. Anything relevant to the bill itself won’t be reported until the stage is complete.

For anyone interested in New Zealand:

They passed their United Kingdom Free Trade Agreement Legislation Bill in mid-November 2022 so the UK-NZ trade deal should enter into force within a month of the UK passing the Trade Bill too.

Looks like we’re going to have double the visa options!

https://www.parliament.nz/en/pb/bills-and-laws/bills-proposed-laws/document/BILL_125280/united-kingdom-free-trade-agreement-legislation-bill

That’s good news! I mean I’ll get a visa in either Australia or New Zealand, whichever comes first haha

Good for you British, but I’d advise against going to New Zealand. There’s a reason why there’s over 1m new Zealanders in Australia, the job situation overall over there is very weak

Thanks for the advice but it looks like NZ has a labour shortage too.

https://www.laprensalatina.com/new-zealand-seeks-out-over-75000-foreign-workers-to-bridge-labor-shortage/

I am in the same boat waiting for the age to increase. I see NZ will be “no later than 2024” – does anyone know if you’ve already had a year visa for NZ then you will be able to go back for the remaining 2? I know Aus are implementing this but can’t see it anywhere for NZ. Just trying to get options.

Hi Emma, yes age limit should definitely increase by 2024 for NZ. No more details regarding the agreement itself… it is quite logic to think it will follow the same path as Australia…

Here’s a quote from one of the members of HoL from the Committee Stage on Jan 23rd:

“We can see the timing a little more readily now: all being well, we should complete the passage of this Bill and I hope it might reach Royal Assent if not by the end of February then certainly very early in March.”

This obviously isn’t a guarantee but might give some idea of what to expect.

https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2023-01-23/debates/827759EE-8659-4204-BB1A-FA1618AF7B5F/Trade(AustraliaAndNewZealand)Bill

Also that link you posted, care to post a TL:DR version? I doubt anyone is going to read through that

It’s a constant guessing game as to what the UK government will do

Lots of ‘ifs’ and no concrete dates. Same as what the last 2 years have served up since the announcement of this age change

I had to leave NZ after a month in 2020 so I hope they will me apply again for the remaining 2 years if their changes come into force before Australias.

There isn’t really a TL:DR version I’m afraid. But it was said during a discussion about an amendment. Best thing is to Ctrl+F part of it if you want more context. It was fairly early on in the meeting.

Charles, the paragraph after the one you quoted says July/August/September:

The Procurement Bill in the other place still has a substantial amount of work to be done, and doubtless it will return here with amendments. That being the case, I suspect it would be rash to assume that it would pass before late May at the earliest, especially since the Session is to run longer. The Procurement Bill brings its provisions into force two months after the Bill itself is enacted, so in my view we could be in July at the earliest, and maybe in August or September, before the relevant provisions and the repeal take effect.

It should still take a few months (hopefully by July)

There hasn’t been official confirmation from the UK Parliament regarding the following (at least none I’ve found) but here is some encouraging quotes from the Aussie agriculture minister:

“I met with the House of Lords committee that was considering the legislation that underpins the UK Free Trade Agreement while I was in London.”

“And since I’ve returned that committee has actually passed and recommended the support of the legislation without amendments.”

“So it’s through the committee stage. It now has to go back to the House of Lords for its third reading.”

https://www.beefcentral.com/trade/watt-reports-positive-progress-on-uk-fta/

So does this mean there were no ammendments our side?

If so, does that mean the consideration of ammendments phase will be tricked off immediately once it reaches that stage?

Or have I got the wrong end of the stick completely lol?

Based on how everything has been handled from the UK government, it will be a long while before we hear anything and kept in the dark

If what was said is true then yes and if not; consideration of amendments normally only takes a day anyway. Report stage and 3rd reading are usually on the same day but in some cases report stage can go for a few days. A lack of amendments should keep it short though.

I’d expect a date to be set for the report stage this week. Let’s see what happens 🙂

Hi guys, I have been following this forum for quite a while hoping to gather some insight into when the visa age will be lifted. I am 32 years old and live in Sydney, but really want to move to London with my friend who already lives there (she has dual citizenship). It feels a little hopeless just waiting around for this age thing to take place. I am aware other countries like France and Ireland already have this visa age in place, but I don’t want to live somewhere that I don’t know anybody. Does anyone know if theres any other possible visa I could apply for in order to live and work in the UK. From what I can see, it is very difficult to work over there unless you have prior work lined up. Thanks in advance!

Hi Steph, yes seems quite difficult indeed. We have no news so far regarding the FTA… which is quite annoying for everyone.

Still radio silence from the UK government and media on this FTA.

Maybe it has been put on the back burner, again.

I dunno, I like to think that seeing as how quickly its moved through the different stages we are going to be pleasantly surprised. I think all of a sudden its going to pass and come into force sooner than we expect.

Or am I just being too optimistic ?

Hope is the only thing I’m holding on to at the moment. My mate whose in Brisbane said its a shame I cant go now as he has a job opening where he works. Seeing as he’s in charge of hiring, I could just walk straight into it.

You’re right to be optimistic Dan; the Trade Bill is very close to being passed. The HoL acknowledged that even with the Procurement Bill superseding it the Trade Bill is still needed to allow the FTA to start as soon as possible.

A big issue with this has been that Australia took sooooo long to take care of their side. As the FTA overwhelmingly benefits the Australian economy the onus was on them to bring the necessary laws into force and they just dropped the ball over and over. The old government holding elections before their JSCOT could publish its report, the new government not forming a new JSCOT for TWO MONTHS after coming into power then immediately going on holiday and two months later shutting down again during a JSCOT sitting period are all examples.

If you look at the UK parliament timings they started work on the Trade Bill shortly after Australia and then just paused it until Australia had finished mucking around. There was just no incentive for the UK to rush as their counterparts weren’t in a hurry to facilitate billions of additional trade for themselves.

None of this really matters now though. It’s very close to getting passed and we’ll hopefully have more info about visas soon 🙂

So the political turmoil in the UK had nothing to do with the delays..? Lol

I initially thought that it did too but if you look at the timings that just doesn’t seem to be the case. In fact, they restarted work on the Trade Bill during the latter half of the political turmoil. The UK govt essentially put the process on hold for four months from May to September while they presumably waited for Australia to show some indication that they wanted the deal to go through.

I was incorrect in my previous comment though: I said that the UK govt waited for Australia to stop delaying before they restarted work on the bill. However, it actually seems like they got tired of waiting and and took the initiative to start the process without any indication Australia was making effort to pass their side. If you look at the time from second reading in HoC until now in HoL the UK’s time frame has been five months which is comparable with New Zealand.

As Dan said: It’s quickly moved through the stages in UK parliament.

You can argue all you like

The facts are that Australia is the only country keen to push through this FTA and the UK is the one holding up the show, with no clear end in sight. Even Australian diplomats have flown over to speed up the process.

I wasn’t arguing :). It’s all good, we want the same thing here.

I was just pointing out that Australia made at least four major blunders that significantly held up the process and would have disincentivised the UK from rushing their side 🙁

Well, the ministers didn’t travel specifically for that. They were traveling for EU trade talks and dropped by the UK.

New Zealand are the real heroes in all this though. From starting work on their trade bill to it getting royal assent in five months. It’s very impressive and even quicker than the UK is going to be.

Since you know so much, what does your crystal ball tell you about when your government is going to approve this deal?

Haha thanks. That’s kind to say but I don’t think I know “so much”. Just what I manage to find with Google 🙂

You don’t need any kind of prescience to know when it will be approved because that happened in December 2021 when both sides signed the FTA.

But if you’re asking when I think it the Trade Bill will be made law: when it receives Royal Assent. Just like in Australia the UK Parliament announces the dates of each stage one at a time and as it hasn’t completed the penultimate stage the date of Royal Assent cannot be announced (if it will be at all).

It’s very likely that the UK will do what Australia did and not announce a date for the bill to become law but just say that they “expect” it to pass during a particular week/parliament sitting.

I’ve been following this page for a while, thanks for all the updates!

Looks like the report stage has now been scheduled for 14th March

Hi Gem, let s hope it will move forward!

14th March? Are these bastards taking the piss?

Clearly in no rush for whatever reason.

Where does it mention 14th March?

Never mind, just seen it! Surely it’s not going to be that late!? I thought it was all going to be completed by Middle of March, guess not! The closest I’ve got to going to Australia is my new passport that will be coming soon….literally can not do a single thing else, just like many others on this forum….it’s kind of pi**ed me off now 14th March, what a load of shite

Charles will still defend his beloved UK government and that they are working diligently to pass the bill XD

I understand that you are feeling apathetic about this situation and that the reality of it is not meeting your expectations but getting personal is counterproductive. It’s probably a good idea to stop. Not for my sake but because it might deter someone else in our position with a genuine question or useful information from posting which would mean we all miss out.

We all want the same thing. I hope we get good news and you feel better about all of this soon 🙂

What happened to it coming into force in quarter one 🙁 oh well, hopefully it is passed by the summer!

Losing hope it’s more reason why I want to leave the U.K. because of the government!, Charles has helped this group/forum massively with information just like everyone else. And everything he’s said has been true and fair. But to put your frustration with a comment like that won’t make things quicker or better.

This is not benefiting any of us. But things we have to accept as it’s out of our hands.

Thanks Lee. You and me both haha. For anyone looking for a reason to be optimistic:

The terms of the FTA are that it will enter into force one month after both sides have implemented the necessary laws unless a different date is otherwise agreed upon.

Like Emma I was also under the impression the UK govt had committed to EIF in Q1 2023 (although I don’t have a source to back that up). So it’s still possible it could start in Q1 if both governments agree to an earlier start date.

Fingers crossed Charles. The Australian PM said in November 2022 that a trade agreement with the UK will be settled in the first quarter of 2023. This was in an article on Bloomberg, so hopefully an earlier date is agreed but both governments.

Fingers crossed

I’m still confused on this. The EIF part, if it enters in to force at the end of March say, does that mean all parts of the deal become effective/law? or can certain bits (visa age) come into effect at any stage after?

The Trade Bill is pretty much focused on creating the laws necessary for free trade. Once it’s passed FTA will enter into force and then trade etc as lined out in the deal will be able to start. The visa changes are (probably) not one of the things that will change immediately.

The interesting thing is that neither government needs to change any laws for the visa changes to happen. They could do it now if they wanted to they just happen to have agreed to do so after EIF of the FTA. So it’s not an issue of laws or needing the trade bill, they’ll just do it when they want.

So the short answer is probably no, the visa changes won’t happen on EIF.

I wish they would just announce a date for it, instead of leaving us all to guess and wait.

I agree! Wish they’d just get on with it so I can quit my job and get out there

I’m checking this every week at the moment for updates! Thanks guys for all the info. I’m 33 this June so have time on my hands but ideally i want to go this year and get at least 2 years out there. Sick of the UK – place has gone so off the boil

I’m aiming for permanent residency at some stage but unsure of how to obtain it. I keep reading different bits of information but as an unskilled worker, I don’t even know if this would be an option

Hi Dan, could be depending on your situation and professional experiences. Please check https://www.australia-backpackersguide.com/living-australia/ for some options. Cheers

I have 16 years in retail in the UK. I am a supervisor so I’m one level below assistant manager.

I will be doing it alone, no kids or partner. No criminal record etc.

The information out there is confusing at times

Hi Dan, I’m in a similar situation. Trying to work out how to secure PR but not currently on any Skilled visa options. I’ve read that an option is to learn a trade (carpenter, electrician etc) out in Aus. Check out pathway to Aus. It is very expensive though and will take a few years. There is high demand for tradies out in Aus however. Another option is to just reach out to employers if they offer sponsorship. Most will say no but you might luck out with a couple. Otherwise, best bet is to just get out there and network like crazy. You never know what opportunities might come up.

Hey guys, yes going on a student visa to get to the PR… can be a long process and quite pricy but worth it 🙂

I’ll check it out!

I know for a fact that if I go out on a WHV, whether it’s one or three, I won’t want to come back to the UK.

Although it would be one hell of an experience, I’ll just come back to the UK depressed and back to where I started… Living at home with my parents and stuck in a dead end job

https://www.londonworld.com/read-this/australia-offers-skilled-uk-workers-jobs-to-emigrate-full-list-of-jobs-including-nurses-and-mechanics-4029938

Good article on the positives of living in Australia

Hi, any advice on how to get a PR visa ? Doubt the age will be increased in time for me now and desperate to go before Jan.

Been a month since the last hearing

You guys must have a lot more faith and patience in the UK government than I..

Think it was reported that the 3rd reading ? Was set for around March 13th ? So doubt we will hear much till mid/late March.

The procurement bill has its report stage on 23rd Feb so that might pass sooner and supersedes the UK-Australia trade bill anyway, right?

I don’t fully understand how the intricacies of the Procurement Bill relate to the FTA but my understanding is that it will yes. Any amendments will have to go back to HoL for approval though. I called HoL when the Trade Bill report date was announced and got told they were busy with some big bills which is why the Trade Bill got pushed to March. So that could impact the Procurement Bill.

I couldn’t find an official date for the Procurement Bill but its news page says it’s expected for the 23rd so hopefully they’ll set a date soon.

The Committee Stage of the Procurement Bill is finished according to its page. Still waiting for a Report Stage date though.

The Australian Ag minister said there were no amendments to the Trade Bill but it would appear there were so it will have to go back to HoC for a day or so after HoL finish with it.

What could the amendments be to the trade bill ?

Hey Mark you can check those here : https://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Bills_Legislation/Bills_Search_Results/Result?bId=r6928 (mainly regarding the Customs Tariff Amendment). Cheers

Hi, I`m thinking to apply to the Working Holiday VISA to Australia, I`m Italian and I have 31 years old, but I`m married and my husband is Argentinian, also 31. Is it possible to apply and go together?

Thank you !!!

Hi Sofia, the WHV is personal so you wont be able to ‘include’ your husband on it. Cheers

So, how’s everyone’s level of optimism that this deal is getting done before June? Or done at all?

Seems it’s been swept under the rug by the UK government

To anyone who may be confused by this:

It hasn’t been “swept under the rug”, that’s not how bills work haha. The date of the next stage of the Trade Bill is March 14th.

It’s sitting on top of the rug in a queue with other bills.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/travel/travel-news/more-50000-brits-sign-up-29311226?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

50k brits plan to flee dreary England

I just hope it gets done by the end of the year! Summer would be a bonus

Well, when they do decide to change the age for the visas, I bet loads will apply and we’ll have an even longer wait on applications.

I think the approval process is normally pretty quick, I’ve heard of some people even get their Aus WHV approved within 24 hours. I waited a week for my NZ one.

Good to know!

However, what’s baffling me is that apparently they don’t have to wait for this trade bill to pass to increase the visa age limits, they can up it at any time.

Just wonder why they won’t do it now or should I say, haven’t already upped it?

This isn’t a piece of journalism, it’s advertiser content for the UK Government:

“Separately to the deal, the UK and Australia have signed a memorandum of understanding which will soon enable Britons aged 18 to 35 to travel and work in Australia for up to three years”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/exporting-from-uk/australia-trade-agreement/

I agree Dan, I don’t understand why they haven’t already increased it. My friend is over there just now and said they are crying out for people/jobs so surely this would be a quick and easy solution for that!

That’s exactly what my friend has said. Almost every shop or business he’s been to or passed is looking for workers.

What cities are you all planning on moving to (if this deal ever gets done) I’ve been seeing the rental market is crazy in Aus but still desperate to go.

Hi Mitch, yes it is getting quite difficult to find accommodation in big cities (mainly) in Australia. Suburbs are still accessible, you can always share a house with other people too … so there are still options don’t worry 🙂

Hi , any update on when the age is going to increase ?

Not so far – keep looking at this page 🙂

Mitch – I’m planning on going to Brisbane as that’s where my friend is. He will be able to help me get things set up etc. But in all honesty, I don’t care where I end up, as long as it’s Australia…I could be in a tent on the streets for all I care haha.

I’m happy to go to a hostel or even share a house with other people. I’ve been on a rental page that specialises mostly in rentals for backpackers, if I remember what the site is then I will share it here.

There are some really nice rentals, and I’m talking houses not apartments or flats etc. I would like to rent a house with other people like me who have travelled from afar – I can picture it now…4 of us sat out on the porch sharing stories and chatting about how great Australia is.

Hi, How long did it take for the age increase to 35 for countries like Italy, Ireland, Canada etc after both governments signed legislations ?

It was super quick for them as it concerned only an increase of the age – the FTA is a bit more complex… that s why it is taking so long. 🙁

Is this true? Because from when the laws in Australia were changed to allow for people aged up to 35 to enter on a 417 visa it was 16 months until the first actual age changes occurred. So maybe not super quick.

Do you ever do research or just say whatever you like to keep people engaged and let the comments section do free SEO for you so you can bank the ad revenue?

https://www.immigrationgurus.com.au/working-holiday-visa-age-increase-to-35/

The MOU both governments signed says that they will introduce the age changes after the FTA enters into force. I don’t really get why both sides agreed to doing it that way. Why not after the deal was signed? At that point the FTA was past the point of no return.

On the plus side the report stage and hopefully 3rd reading of the Trade Bill are in one week and the deal will be much closer to EIF.

Is it likely to be changed this year to 35 or is it more likely to be next year ?

Likely to be this year 🙂

I really do hope so! Will they announce a date for the increase in advance or will they just change it randomly one day?

Did they announce a date for the increase with the other countries?

Australia Backpackers Guide:

Do you have good reason to believe it will be this year? If so can you please share the evidence with us. So far your predictions have proven to be incorrect and you have never provided any evidence to back them up. I find it hard to trust any information you provide.

The Danish and Italian age increase was announced by the previous Australian immigration minister online three months in advance. It wasn’t easy to find though. I don’t know about announcements from the other sides.

All this waiting and waiting and waiting has really put me off this whole idea of moving to the UK

Just came back from Asia and have now decided to move to VN instead and teach english. Straightforward process if you have a degree and online teaching certificate. Maybe this long delay has been in a blessing in disguise after all

Nice one losing hope, glad you were able to find a route. VN teaching english sounds much better than coming to the UK. Good luck to you!

Thanks Karl. Good luck to you as well

Next week will we find out if the agreement is signed and if so will that mean that the age change will happen this year ? Also can you apply for a WHV while in Aus on a holiday visitors visa or do you need to leave the country to apply ?

Hi Mark, based on what I have been on twitter today the FTA is likely to be finalised by the end of this month but we are waiting to find out what date the FTA will enter into force (either 30 days later or on a date mutually agreed by both governments)

However, the changes to the WHV can happen within 2 years of the FTA entering into force. We are all anxiously hoping for the changes to happen asap and be announced asap.

I really hope it won’t take 2 years from now to come into force 🙁 I would love to go later this year.

I received an email from the department of immigration and they said it will happen from 1/7/23 to sometime between 2025. So don’t hold your breath

Someone here, I think Jonny, was told by their local MP that their expectation was that the age change would be soon after EIF. If you look at the UK government ad I posted a few days ago they also mention the age change being soon when they could have not mentioned it at all

We still need to wait and see but I think there’s reason to be positive.

How long did it take for the age change for other countries such as Ireland, Denmark they’re both 35

Unfortunately they’re not a good guide for us as the age changes were negotiated independently and weren’t part of an FTA. We’re in a different situation.

However, what we do know is that all the laws are already in place to allow for an age change for Brits. To the best of my knowledge there’s nothing preventing it. It could, in theory, change on the same day as EIF. The age changes for the most recent countries, Italy and Denmark, were officially announced by Australia three months prior to the changes coming in effect so we might get a few months notice before increase for us. After they’ve been agreed the changes themselves are an administrative process as opposed to political one.

They could actually do it now but the UK and Australia agreed to increasing the age (and removal of specified work) after EIF and it seems like they are sticking to it. I’m not expecting any news until after the deal is ratified at the earliest. That’s likely to happen this month though.

Yeah my local MP did say that however, in my opinion I think it’s possible for the changes to happen on 1st July and we will be notified once the deal if in force (next month hopefully) that means it give everyone 3 months notice and will be in line with other visas changing on 1st July last year.

I really don’t see why they will wait as they need to workers in the country and even sheep farms were crying out for the changes to happen when I was reading online.

I don’t see why they would wait either. The removal of specified work might be an issue as the Aussie agriculture industry will lose a lot of cheap labour they have historically been able to take advantage of (sometimes abuse). Given how close it is to EIF though I’m assuming most Brits have delayed applying until more news regarding the changes comes anyway so the impact to the ag industry might already have happened.

NZ and UK are commencing theirs from the 1st July.

Just shows that we don’t needs the Trade Deal in place for this to go through!! So someone is holding it up!

Fingers crossed we get this done ASAP with Oz too!

I just saw this too!! I predict Australia will follow the this date as they won’t want everyone going to NZ instead

Amazing news for NZ! Does anyone know if you can apply for it again like you will be able to do with the new Aus one? I got a WHV for NZ in 2020 and only used one month before I came home, if I can get it again I will happily go there whilst I wait for Aus.

The link to their website is below.

It says they’re going to announce further details soon! But nothing to suggest you won’t be able too!!

https://www.immigration.govt.nz/about-us/media-centre/news-notifications/upgrade-to-uk-nz-working-holiday-youth-mobility-scheme-in-effect-by-july-2023

Oooooo, a bit of positive news and some hope that, there is a small chance we all could very well be applying for our WHV this year!? – or have I completely misread the last few comments lol?

Dan is NZ an option you would consider if Aus doesn’t increase the age this year ?

Good point K, it could be an option for you.

K, Australia Backpackers Guide-I think I will consider NZ actually if the increase for Australia doesn’t happen soon.

I think so too Dan!

It appears as if rules for Oz, Canadian and NZ workers is changing from the 12th April.

“From 12 April, the annual allocation of visas under the Youth Mobility Scheme is increasing for Australian nationals (30,000 to 35,000) and Canadian nationals (6,000 to 8,000). Also, for nationals of New Zealand only:

The age range is being expanded from 18-30 to 18-35; and the length of stay is being increased from 2 to 3 years.”

https://www.freeths.co.uk/2023/03/10/latest-immigration-rule-changes-for-business-people-and-workers/

Some good news read the article! Sounds like the age range should be changed in 2-3 months max. Not sure on the without farming though.

https://www.thedrinksbusiness.com/2023/03/australia-free-trade-deal-could-be-completed-this-month/

This is amazing news! I think it doesn’t mention the removal of farm work as it’s referring to people coming to the UK and they already don’t need to complete 88 days regional work.

If this article is true then we should expect to see both government websites announce the changes happening on 12th April soon.

I will be so happy if this is the case as I’m in Bali at the moment waiting for the changes haha!

Fingers crossed everyone!

I’m also in Asia awaiting the changes, currently in Langkawi! Eagerly awaiting the confirmation date so I can arrange the visa and flights to Aus!

Fingers well and truly crossed!!

Hi Mich! Good to see I’m not the only one haha!

After reading the article again, it seems it’s referring to NZ for the ages changes but that’s strange as they just announced a few days ago it would be 1st July. Think we just need to get an official statement from the government but still very exciting!

Haha you’re not alone!

Yeah it seems April 12th is for New Zealanders getting the visa for UK and July 1st for UK to NZ…seems unfair but still some positive news! Fingers crossed the Aussie visa is sooner than that and we can make our way over there :)!

How is it ? I want to go for a month or two but skeptical because of my age. Thinking everyone’s gonna be so much younger then me!

What time will we get an update on the changed is it today the 13th ? Thanks

Check https://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/not-yet-in-force/aukfta/news

Bradly and Lee – this the age change for Aus? Changed within 2-3 months?

Australian changes should be imminent

Odd how NZ was first out of the gate but this is a good sign

Do you agree that Australia aren’t going to want to be releasing the visas after NZ in a competitive sense?

It’s possible. I don’t understand why it can’t be changed sooner

Will I be able to apply for a second whv if I had one in 2014 and I’m now 31 ?

Yeah mate, you can apply for your 2nd and 3rd when the changes happen. I’m 35 at the end of the month and have done my first visa in 2010 so I’m hoping the changes happen very soon so I can apply for my 2nd

Did you complete your farm work as I don’t have my documents now with it being so long ago. I thought we would have an update today ?

No need to complete or have completed farm work when the new visa comes into force.

What happened to the official update today ? The link shared above is dated the 10 March. Really hoping we get an official update asap this is dragging on too long.

No news so far https://www.dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/not-yet-in-force/aukfta/news

Just checked the House of Lords time table. The report stage doesn’t take place until Tuesday midday so won’t likely find out till then or few days after this.

After watching the House of Lords they didn’t seem happy with the meat trade deal and wanted changed with that but some were moved and some not moved not sure what implications this has. But after checking the gov site the report stage in now complete according to that.

And from what’s been said in this group and what I’ve looked at 3rd reading is usually straight after this. Usually same day but they didn’t mention it but have seen it say it can take days. So hopefully this is done by the end of the week. Then it’s royal assent.

Sitting for third reading is 20th March.

How long does the consideration of ammendments take before the Royal ascent takes place?

Hopefully as its so close to the end, it won’t take too long at all.

Not sure what I’m looking forward to more, finally getting to apply for my visa, going to Australia or handing in my resignation at my dead end job

Dan, I dream about the day I will be handing in my resignation! I think I will cry happy tears when I am finally on that plane 🙂 I cannot wait to come onto this site one day (soon) and see that we can apply for the visa!

Yeah, I’m with you on that!

Think I’ll cry as well. Until I’m on that plane, it doesn’t seem real at the moment

Let’s hope it’s soon everyone. Lovely weather over here in Sydney at the moment

I’m really hoping it happens by July and we get the announcement soon so I can enjoy my current travelling even more!!

I keep checking on thr government website a few times a day just in case things have sped up haha.

I’ve already got my resignation typed up. All I need to do is hand it in as soon as my visa is approved.

In fact, as I still live at home with parents all I have to do is Apply for visa Sell all my belongings Book flight and that’s it!

I’ve got my resignation typed up and sitting in the drafts folder!

It’s just one less thing to worry about isn’t it Karl! Plus, it makes me feel better that it’s sat there ready

Anyone looking for updates on the bill. https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3152

Thanks Shaun 🙂

This is very good news! Thanks for the update Bradley.

April 12th seems to be the date the visa rules in the UK will be changed to accommodate the age increase but June 29th and July 1st will be the dates the changes will come into force in the UK and New Zealand respectively.

Dan: If you look at other bills (which you should, don’t take my word for it) consideration of amendments normally takes a few days and royal assent could happen any time from the same day to a month later.

Charles: April 12th? For UK to change the age? For Aussies to come here or for UK people to go there?

Hopefully it wont be long now (actually, praying it wont be long now!)

Sorry, I didn’t explain it very well.

April 12th is when the rules that the UK’s visa office has to follow will be changed. The rules changes include increasing the number of Aussies and Canadians that be granted visas and increasing the age to 35 and length of stay for Kiwis.

However, Kiwis over 30 won’t be able to apply until June 29th and it will be July 1st for Brits. The visa rules get changed quite often (two weeks apart in one instance last year) so changing it for Aussies won’t be an issue.

With regards to the silence about the visa age change for Australia I’m assuming it’s because the wording of the agreement states they won’t change it until EIF of the FTA. I’m interested to hear other theories though if anyone has one.

We’re nearly there though!

Hi guys, I’m staying positive about the changes. I agree with you Charles, Australia probably won’t announce until the UK ratify the FTA and it’s a good sign NZ announcing the changes for 1st July as I think Australia will see this as competition to secure workers and I predict once the FTA is ratified they will announce the changes. That’s what I’m thinking and hoping anyway haha

I think you’re right Jonny. I’m expecting an announcement between ratification and EIF assuming they stick to the time frame of a month and don’t agree to a shorter period. I will also be surprised if the visa changes for Australia occur after July 1st as like you said; they could lose out on workers. I think there’s an incentive for them to introduce the changes before NZ but we’ll see what happens.

This is more interesting than relevant but if you look at the rules changes the UK has never had a youth mobility visa for over 30s and on April 12th they will. It really was as simple as changing some wording haha.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1141158/E02875509_-_Immigration_Rules_changes_-_HC_1160__Web_Accessible_.pdf

Final reading is today, 20th March. Hopefully we get some news:

Thanks Emme for sharing!

Check out @welcome.to.travel on Instagram, they have just posted a story saying they believe it will be late April/early May

Oh my god, don’t! I’m getting excited already ahahhhaaaa

This site believed it was going to happen last year, so until the govt releases official dates its all heresay

Is that the timescale for them to announce the changes or for the changes to be put into place ?

Just watched the live stream of House of Lords. They have passed the bill! No mention on how long royal assent will be or when it’s going into force but looks like it will be within the month!

Also not sure with the removal of farming should Hopefully find out soon!

Excellent! Thanks for watching it Lee.

Wooohooo!!! Thanks for letting us know Lee!

We’re just that one step closer to what we’ve been waiting for!

Consideration of amendments is set for tomorrow Wed 22nd.

https://whatson.parliament.uk/events/commons/thisweek/

Very weird because the report stage it was heavily scrutinised but the third reading everything passed… some mps was disgruntled. But have to accept it going forward. So from that I believe there won’t be any amendments. Unless mistaken

It’s looks like there is an amendment to make, although from what I understand it looks more like a correction to the wording. The Lords amendment can be found here: https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/bills/cbill/58-03/0273/220273.pdf

Hopefully this means it won’t take long to resolve.

Hey Nixk, we should know by the end of Apr!

The Lords must have made amendments otherwise it would go straight for royal assent and not back to the Commons. It looks like it should be done there by the end of the week though.

only 1 I believe but we re nearly there !

This coming Friday (24th) there’s also this scheduled:

Trade (Australia and New Zealand) (Parliamentary Approval) Bill: Second Reading

There’s nothing that makes reference to the trade bill scheduled for next week so this might be the last thing before royal assent.

I’m thinking it will be all done by the end of March and in force by next month! Let’s all keep our fingers crossed for good news and all meet for a few beers when we are in Australia haha

I concur to the beers! XD

Yesss! Haha

Hey … yes only a couple of weeks to wait now !

If it’s all done and EIF by next month, will we still have to wait for a date on when they’ll change the visa age then?

Information overload at the moment

Yeah we need to wait for a date for the visas to change but it could happen anytime from the date the FTA enters into force… Hopefully due to Australia’s work force shortage it will trigger them to make the changes asap mate

I just did some more research and the Trade (Australia and New Zealand) (Parliamentary Approval) Bill: Second Reading that’s taking place on Friday isn’t anything to do with the current Trade Bill so looks like today is what counts.

Thanks to Nick we know there is only one amendment and it’s a small change in wording so it’s looking very likely consideration of amendments could be done today.

We are at the ping pong stage… Both houses need to agree the amendments made and goes to royal assent at that point. So, yeah providing HoC agree to the small amendment from HoL today it should go straight to RC! Fingers crossed!!!

Not trying to get anybody’s hopes up but there are two bills (Genetic Technology and Supply and Appropriation) that are scheduled to receive royal assent tomorrow. Charles Windsor has never had a proper job before so it would make sense to get him to sign three at the same time while they have his attention.

So oooo close now!

I can’t take this waiting any longer haha

Amendments passed!

All that we need now is Royal assent!

Hopefully we get a date sonning

It’s so close! When will we know a date for royal assent?

Is it too early to start crying with joy!?

Yeah I’d say so haha. We need them to announce when the visas will change as well as the FTA entering into force but hopefully we are just weeks away from getting the news we all want!

Apparently it’s gone through

https://www.miragenews.com/uk-parliament-approves-trade-agreement-with-973863/

Yeah I just read this as well… Let’s hope we hear something very soon confirmed the date of visa changes haha

My guess would be July 1 – 2023

Losing hope – you reckon July 1st for it to EIF to when the visa changes will happen?

I hope they announce a date that will be sooner than that of NZ

I reckon July 1 for the age changes to come into effect

It just seems like a logical round figure date

Yes agree 🙂

Usually changes happen in July so …

The link above says: The Australia-UK FTA will enter into force after UK processes are complete and Australia and the UK exchange diplomatic notes identifying a commencement date.

Apparently the royal assent was done 23rd March and is now in law.

All done and dusted guys and girls… We should hear about the visas at any point from now I guess!

I simply can’t wait that long haha.

But I tell you, how good is it to see on the government website that all boxes are now ticked!

I am so excited!

If anyone here is planning on going to brisbane… Let me know and we can meet up haha

I know everyone here is excited, as we have been waiting for this for soo long. But on what grounds could a visa be denied?Imagine waiting this long for that to happen

Hey Tom, really depends on your situation (police clearance, first application, etc)

https://www.themandarin.com.au/215582-albanese-welcomes-historic-free-trade-agreement-with-uk/

“The UK parliament approved the trade deal on Friday with royal assent meaning both nations can bring the FTA into force as soon as possible”

Could be any day now

So close now! Just waiting for it to EIF and then wait for them to announce the age change

yes should be super soon!

I don’t think I’ve ever checked a comment section of a website more than this one in my life haha. Spoke to my friend the other day, he said I need to get out there now as it’s just amazing!

Same, I check this site every day for updates. So happy I found you all!

We’ll all get our wish soon. Just hope it’s sooner rather than later

I just want a concrete date so I can start planning properly!

Me too!! I’m in Bali until the end of April and want to be heading to Australia after that knowing I can get a working holiday visa by July haha

I’m in Thailand / Malaysia doing the same thing! The wait continues .. hopefully some news this week!!

Same here – my current visa expires 22nd April. It would be great to head straight to Australia on an ETA and apply from there in July. I’m guessing that’s what you’re planning too?

Hi Jem, no official date so far…

Where’s the best place to find out when the deal EIF and when they raise the visa age limit?

I’m guessing it will be this page?

Yeah not sure I’ve just been trying to google Uk aus fta and see recent news. Surely should see something within the month of when it was agreed.

https://www.ft.com/content/b3d55007-f5fe-4095-99f3-686376be7e42

Theres a bunch of sad activists that are challenging the outcome of the FTA

“A campaign group has taken the first step towards legal action against the UK government over its free trade deal with Australia, arguing that it flouts Britain’s international climate obligations.

Global Feedback, a UK and Netherlands-based group, said it would seek a judicial review, claiming ministers failed to carry out proper due diligence on the environmental impact of importing Australian agricultural products, such as beef and dairy”

Sad sad individuals 😀

Don’t think they’ll get far with complaining to be honest

Been a long time coming this fta I doubt anything will come of it

Can we get an EIF date please?

Don’t think they understand people have their lives on hold, and have done for months/years!

I’d expect to hear about it soon Bradley. We’re a small group relative to others that will benefit from this so they probably understand but don’t care. It’s in their interest to announce it when they have concrete dates though.

For anyone concerned about the Financial Times article: That group is not trying to prevent the FTA from going through, they are trying to get the UK government to carry out an environmental impact assessment of the FTA and threatening legal action if they don’t. Both countries have a terrible track record regarding environmental protection so this kind of thing is (thankfully) inevitable.

This is their website: https://feedbackglobal.org/

Am I right to say it’s within 30 days or royal accent or a date mutually agreed?

I think it’s 30 days from when both governments confirm in writing that they’ve enacted the necessary laws unless a different date is agreed upon.

I’ve got my money on July 1

Australia and the UK’s free trade agreement is poised to come into force midyear, with Britain aiming to finalise its legislative paperwork by the end of May, UK Investment Minister Dominic Johnson says.

He said there were some technical instruments that had to be tabled before Westminster, around issues such as procurement, but these were straightforward and British processes would soon be complete.

“Towards the end of May is the target date. We’re committed. I harry and chivvy my team to press forward with the technical implementation,” Lord Johnson said.

https://www.afr.com/politics/federal/uk-free-trade-deal-to-be-settled-within-weeks-20230331-p5cwyo

I hope this doesn’t delay the announcement for the visa changes though. I’m flying to Australia later this month on a tourist visa and really hope they confirm the dates before the end of May otherwise I’ll be applying for a NZ visa on 1st July… Anyone else thinking the same?

https://www.sheepcentral.com/shearing-sector-gains-from-a-uk-fta-could-be-months-away/

Not wanting to panic anyone but this recent article is indicating that the implementation of the FTA might not happen until 1/07/23

“Advice from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade indicates the FTA might not come into force until early in the next financial year.

And both countries have up to two years to implement Working Holiday Maker visa changes that would extend age and work period limits for UK workers here”

Not good to hear this

It also says: A Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade spokesperson told Sheep Central the Australian Government intends to exchange Third Person (Diplomatic) Notes with the UK to enable entry into force of the A-UKFTA at the earliest opportunity.

Just trying to gauge what’s going on above – do we feel the changes will be done and visa available on 1st July 2023?

Just trying to understand what ”implementation of the FTA” actually means.

I’m 32 now so hoping this happens in the next 4-5 months

I’m reading everything I can at the moment – feel that based on previous timescales July is maybe a little optimistic – August more plausible – but could be either (or neither!). The New Zealand announcement was made on the 10th March and will live by 29th June 2023 (3 months). A specific announcement just on the WHV hasn’t been made yet… It’s reasonable to assume the mechanics of the visa change should be relatively similar for Aus (and you can bet that Aus/NZ Governments knew intimately how both agreements were being agreed owing to how closly aligned their immigration policies are). Other countries are already 35 for Aus – so this isn’t a brand new process, just the change to include UK applicants alongside others.

Ofcourse, it’s possible that some kind of technicality gets in the way of all of this – both sides have given themselves the small print of “up to two years from the EIF of the FTA” which could well be the case. The quotes included above and the articles available would suggest that there is some real momentum on both sides to get this implemented ASAP – but we won’t know until we know. I’m keeping everything crossed for August though.

Hey Alex, we are hoping July … fingers crossed. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I would like to think the age increase would come in to effect in July 2023 to compete with the New Zealand visa change. However, I guess no one really knows and we will just have to wait and see what happens.

I wouldn’t read too much into that article, probably just a disgruntled business owner who is waiting on the visa changes like us and is getting frustrated with lack of workers

I’ve got my money on 01/07/23 for the age changes

I really need the changes to happen by July to be fair, I really hope we get an announcement soon like New Zealand’s announcement.

“Australia and the UK’s free trade agreement is poised to come into force midyear, with Britain aiming to finalise its legislative paperwork by the end of May, UK Investment Minister Dominic Johnson says.”

Then the visas can commence within 2 years of the deal coming into force 🙁

Hopefully they just annonce the actual date of the changes soon

I agree. I just want to know the date, whenever it may be.

I’m flying to Cairns in Oz on Sunday… Praying we get good news this month! Hostels are soooo expensive in Australia now!

Seems to have gone a bit quiet to be honest. I don’t think we’ll hear anything until after the deal EIF…I think it will come after the NZ changes.

I’m starting to think the same mate

Australian hostels are a rip off 🙁

Don’t even talk about hotels

This is concerning radio silence since it was agreed, surely if it was July they would announce it by now ? I’m scared it might not get changed this year.

I think we won’t hear anything until end of May when the legislative paperwork is finalised by the UK.

It is a little concerning all this silence but hopefully Emma is right, all the paperwork needs to be finalised before they’ll say anything….I hope!

Everyone should be used to the radio silence by now, this thing has been going on for the best part of 2 years..

The silence the last two years was different though – before it was confirmed as going through UK Parliament it was always going to be months of waiting. We’re into a slight different period now. The NZ change was announced on 10th March and is going live on 29th June. The Aus change has been in progress for a little longer and only brings UK Passports in line with others (Ireland, Italy, Denmark) with the 35 age limit – so technical changes to reflect this should be minimal. The UK Government have a vested interest in getting this in ASAP as it’s their only post-Brexit achievement. The Aus Government have a vested interest in getting this in ASAP as there are loads of vacancies that need filling and I’m sure they’ll want to contend with the NZ change. I expect we won’t hear much the next two weeks but an announcement after that would be reasonable. My money is on August.

August for the changes do you reckon, Alex?

I’ve emailed a couple of dozen people in the UK Government, FCDO, Home Office, and Aus Department for trade etc. not had any useful responses just yet. I’d be cautiously optimistic we might hear something this week or next about confirming a planned date. Could be worth emailing your MP and asking them to chase it too.

I’m thinking of going travelling next year and wanting to have a working ho in Aus but is it worth waiting or just getting a tourist visa?! What if you got sponsorship via a job opportunity – would that change the circumstance?!

Hi Raksha, if you want to work legally in Australia you will need a visa other than a tourist one. You can apply for a student or WHV depending on your situation, age etc.

Thanks! Okay well fingers and toes crossed for some correspondence on the age increase as I’m 32! Talk about disheartening haha

I’ll be 32 in July, Raksha….so many of us so desperate for this to happen!

I’d sell my soul if it means I could go hahaha

I’m 35 now and in Australia already praying to the travel gods it’s going to happen soon so I can stay here hahaha

Hey Jonny, no official date so far but as mentioned usually changes occur in July for visas…

Haha you guys are funny…everything crossed hope it works out for us!

Are you both wanting to work or having a working holiday out there now?

Hi Raksha, no official date so far so we are guessing July.

Raksha, I’m wanting to work out there and eventually get permanent residency! That’s the plan anyway.

SHame I can’t go now as my friend who’s currently out there manages a business and struggling to fill a position he said I could have if only I could go now!

Hoping there will be some news shortly which will announce the date for the changes. If not, I’m debating going to NZ instead after July.

Anyone else thinking the same thing (NZ instead?)?

Dan this sounds great! I’m looking to find some work out there whilst on my travels within the architectural field fingers crossed!

From what Jonny has said it does sound hopeful which is great! Just wondering when to start applying for jobs to get a good chance tbh!

NZ sounds like a fab idea to go for a polite visit haha it’s in my list for sure!!

So much exciting activity and now…nothing. 🙁

It’s nearly a month since the UK ratified.

Absolutely zero had happened since

I think we might get more updates after the kings coronation and 6th May… Well I hope!

Loads will have happened. Just nothing that we’ve heard about Don’t sweat it. Announcement in the next month is most likely. The odds that the U.K. government were ever going to achieve the minimum notice period of 30 days were non-existent. I don’t think the Kings coronation will have any significance in government policy making but anytime up to/around then in May is possible.

Hi guys, so I’m in Australia now on a tourist visa. If the changes do happen on 1st July. Does anyone know if I can apply from inside the country or do I need to leave and apply?

Need to apply from outside of Australia, so will need to leave and apply: https://immi.homeaffairs.gov.au/visas/getting-a-visa/visa-listing/work-holiday-417/first-working-holiday-417

Over 50% come back within 1 day, but I guess there could be an additional delay with the first few months of the updated rules?

It’s says on Scenario 1 that you can apply within or outside of Australia so maybe it’s another thing that’s changing?

Once the changes are made you can apply from inside if you’ve already had a 417 visa.

Hi Charles! Hope you’re well mate?

Yeah I have had a 417 visa years ago so I’d be applying for my 2nd visa ☺️

Hi guys, I just saw a post on Facebook and someone contacted the head of foreign policy and they told them the deal will come onto force at the end of May and that they hope for the visa changes to happen in July because NZ have already confirmed it. Hopefully this is true!

Can u paste the comment, jonny?

I messaged the head of forgein policy at the British chambers and they said the FTA is coming into place end of May so hopefully FTA start of July

hello ☺️ did they say they hoped the visa changes to be July?

they said NZ will be July and as it is the australia and NZ free trade agreement they are hoping AU will also be July

By Visa changes, do you think they mean the age change? Or do you reckon the removal of farm work will come alongside that or at a much later date?

Hi Alex, everything should come into force at the same time (visa changes and goods and services changes). Cheers

Does this mean age range or will this be the 3 years without farming as well. I’ve always been apprehensive with the farming one because I’d of thought they’d want to try hold out longer for this change ?

It will happen at the same time mate. To be fair I’m here now and loads of backpackers are struggling to find farm work so by releasing the UK citizens from doing these jobs will free them up for other backpackers from other countries I guess.

Thanks for the update Jonny!

With the FTA as good as done and NZ announcing the age change for July I haven’t been doing much reading about all of this recently.

How are you finding life in Aus?

Yeah there isn’t much else to read about at the moment to be fair. I think we will find out more in the coming week though.

It’s a stunning as I remember it! I have been going down the east coast on the greyhound coach and heading to Sydney this afternoon. I’m in Brisbane and it’s really sunny and warm! Can’t complain!

I’m not subscribed to The Australian Financial Times but this is the first bit I could see.

Hopefully comes in sooner I’m starting to plan my south east Asia trip then Sydney for Christmas!

Anthony Albanese has just arrived in London and said on his Instagram that ahead of the kings coronation him and Rishi will be discussing the FTA so hopefully one of the subjects discussed is the visa changes and we hear something soon!!

I’ve just had a reply from the UK Department for Business and trade;

We are working hard to bring the FTA into force at the earliest opportunity so businesses and consumers can reap the benefits. We expect to be able to bring the agreement into force in Spring 2023. The Government has brought forward the necessary primary legislation in the form of the Trade (Australia and New Zealand) Act 2023, which has now completed its passage through Parliament and has received Royal Assent. The commitments regarding Working Holiday Visas were taken in a separate side letter which specifies that the changes will need to be implemented within two years of entry into force of the Free Trade Agreement. UK and Australian officials are working together to bring these changes into effect as soon as operationally possible.

No new information but at least the FTA is still looking like the next few months. I thought we’re already out of spring with it being May – but maybe not!

They’ve caveated the WHV timeline difference again – although my previous response form the Aus government has said all the Aus technicalities have already been completed. Clearly the UK can make a change quickly when they want to (NZ WHV) … guess we’re still none the wiser really!

That’s good that all the Australia technical processes are completed already for the visas as it’s the removal of farm work we were concerned about. UK doesn’t have to do much as they will just increase the age. Fingers crossed it’s being discussed now as both PM are in London together now

They should get it done and relieve us of our anxiety

NZ change was done efficiently and quickly

I agree mate! I hope they confirm more details over the next few days

Is it possible to move from an Irish passport Visa into a UK one?

My gf ( 28 y.o) is from Northern Ireland, and has dual nationality – so a UK passport and an Irish one.

Unfortunately she has lost her UK passport – and her new one will take a minimum of 10 weeks to arrive. But we are due to arrive in OZ in 3 weeks!!

She wants to apply now via Irish passport, then transfer onto a UK visa when the new passport arrives. This will allow her to take advantage of the new UK/AU visa rules (when they finally come into action, ofc).

If not, she is considering applying on an emergency UK passport? Anyone got any experience with this?

Any advice would be great, thanks.

Hi Tom, would definitely recommend to go with an emergency UK passport.

Judging by the link below, I believe we’ll hear something on the changes and if/when they come into affect during the Australia Budget.

I have had a look and this is due on Tuesday 9th. So not long to wait.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/australian-visa-changes-for-2023-2024/8oypo0xui

Nice find Bradley

This looks to be the light at the end of the tunnel finally.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/landmark-post-brexit-trade-deals-to-come-into-force-this-month-driving-economic-growth-across-the-uk

Official release from UK government

“The agreement is expected to enter into force on the 31 May, subject to finalisation of UK domestic procedures with remaining changes to UK law coming into force at the end of May.”

Came here to post this too! NZ FTA at the same time so hopefully the Visa rules align with June as well! Buzzing

After what seems so long with silence since it passed in parliament, finally starting to hear some good news!

I’m trying to think ahead (maybe tok far ahead!), but how difficult do you think it would be to get permanent residency in Australia?

I’m an unskilled worker with only supermarket work since I left school at 16, I’m now 31. There is no future for me here, can’t get a mortgage, can’t afford to live on my own etc.

Just wondered how realistic I need to be here haha?

I was gonna come over as unskilled but I’ve recently in last year and half picked up a role as electrical technician started at 29. Now worked my way up really well and spoke to people on linked in they’re crying out for people in that sector. Don’t need any qualifications or anything. Failing that I know a friend who was doing furniture removal and he got offered a visa. And know a few people falling into jobs they wouldn’t imagine then getting sponsored!

Lee- Oh really!? So it is truly possible then to get sponsored relatively easily?

I know I shouldn’t be thinking about things like this yet as I still have to wait for them to change the visa age but it’s all I can think about haha

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-05-05/australia-uk-free-trade-deal-complete-takes-effect-within-weeks/102306654

This article specifically mentions the age changes

Only for Australians but yes it will apply to both nationalities

I subscribed the the Australian newspaper just so I could read this article.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese has pronounced “it is game on,” as the United Kingdom-Australia free trade deal is fast tracked to come into force at the end of this month, resulting in three year working visas between the two countries, as well as more jobs and exports. Mr Albanese said the changes to the labour market as part of the free trade agreement would mean UK citizens up the age of 35 can obtain three year temporary visas to Australia and vice versa.

Previously the one year working holiday visa for UK citizens was for an initial 12 months and only for people up to the age of 30.

“If you are a UK citizen or a local Londoner as part of the FTA we will change some of the labour market, so that instead of being 30 years of age to get that temporary visa, it will increase it up to 35 in both countries, and extend it to three years so that people can come here and get that real experience over a longer period of time,’’ Mr Albanese said as he visited an Australian-themed store Bondi Green in Paddington on Thursday. Mr Albanese said the final processes of the FTA were being passed through the British parliament on Thursday so that on Friday when he meets with British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, the work will be completed before the coronation.

“You always need a deadline,’’ Mr Albanese said.

“And this afternoon, literally today, some of the processes in the UK parliament are being completed so that tomorrow when I meet with Prime Minister Sunak at Number 10 Downing Street, we will be able to complete the FTA timetable so that this month it will come into force on the 31st of May.

Doesn’t say it will be within 2 years so maybe we are getting the visa changes soon??

Fingers crossed, Jonny

Looks like we are the winners now!!!

https://anzuk.blog/visa-update-aus-uk-free-trade-agreement/

The long-awaited changes to the UK and Australian working holiday visas have been confirmed by Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese & we finally have good news to share!

We are pleased to announce that Anthony Albanese has confirmed that the agreement will be in place by the 31st of May, with the age eligibility changing up to the age of 35 instead of under 31 and extending the length of the visa from the current 2 years, up to 3 years.

This means that more Australians will be eligible to access the Youth Mobility Scheme Visa, and be provided with a longer period of time to gain valuable work and life experience as well as being able to explore the UK and Europe for longer – a win-win for all!

We anticipate that for those who are currently on a Youth Mobility Scheme Visa, you will be able to apply for an extra year, but this is yet to be confirmed.

These changes will also benefit UK travellers coming to Australia with the same increase in age limit and being able to work throughout their stay of up to 3 years – this is still to be confirmed by the Australian and UK Governments.

There is yet to be a formal release, but the Australian Prime Minister has made this announcement and we will be updating this blog as more information comes through.

Wow, finally!

I’m turning 35 in 2 weeks . If it kicks in May 31 will I still be able to apply before I turn 36 ?

Hi Clio, yes it should be the case and yes you will be able to apply. Cheers

My partner has done a first year working Holliday visa on an Irish passport in 2018 and did not complete the farm work . They now have also a British passport , will they be able to apply for a second year working holiday visa from Ireland or would it be need to be applied on the British passport ?

Hi Clio, the only way of getting a second-year is to meet the conditions of getting one. Cheers

I am seeing a few outlets quoting the “within two years” phrase!

God forbid this isn’t the case. We’ve waited long enough!!!

So I’m reading as many news articles as I can. I think the main take away from the current situation is that only the FTA is confirmed for 31st May but still nothing specific has been about the WHV. Although there are hundreds of news outlets reporting on it, I think they are all referencing the official UK/Aus Government statements which include the 2 year caveat. So the constant repetition of this fact isn’t bad OR good – it’s all come from the same source.

Apparently Albanese and Sunak have two meetings today to discuss timescales – coupled with the Aussie Federal budget on Tuesday next week. I’d imagine we’ll still have to wait until next week until anything is confirmed. Fingers crossed though – I think the NZ change should keep us positive though 🙂

Correct me if I’m wrong but surely it wouldn’t benefit the age changes to commence within 2 years?

People will just think, OK, I’ll go to NZ instead. I think because an official date hasn’t been set yet, they are just quoting the 2 year thing.

I reckon it will happen this year… Well, I’m praying more like!

Yeah I hope we hear more over the next week and get a confirmation date. I really don’t see the benefit of them waiting 2 years without sound bias!

ABC News just posted an article stating it will be in place by the end of May! See article for the link

I think if it was imminent guys we’d have got a date by now, much like we have for the NZ situation.

The constant “within 2 years” is excruciating and I can only think that this has been factored in with an underlying cause.

These bloody politicians have had our lives on hold for 2 years now and we still don’t have a date.

We can only sit and wait and hope for some positive news.

I’m not so convinced by that Bradley – politics always moves slowly and the labour shortage in NZ is slightly more acute than in Aus which may have been a driver. The whole FTA has been sat on for two years and only moved quickly in the past two months. It could be that there’s an absolute shocker waiting for us all but I don’t think the events so far points to this. I don’t know the exact timescales between when the Danish/Italian/Irish increase to 35 was announced/implemented but that would be a good comparison to make.

No wording I’ve found points to being so confident of imminent implementation.

I’ll be happy to be proven wrong.

My money is on 1st July 2023

It just makes sense

Hi there, ABC News just posted an article stating it will be in place by the end of May! See article for the link

Where is the article? I can’t find it

Are you talking about the FTA or the visas?

Check the homepage guys theres are more recent thread and conversation

There’s no mention of the date for visas. Just implementation of the FTA.

We need actually government postings now, not articles. We’ve seen articles before claim dates which haven’t through. I.e when the deal was first signed.

I got confirmation via email from NZ PM’s office that the NZ WHV will still only be a once in a lifetime visa 🙁 so now Aus is my only option

What does that mean, once in a lifetime visa?

I have dual passports – Can I apply for a 2nd year WHV on a British passport inser the new deal if my first WHV was on an Irish passport?

Hi Grace, no it is not possible in practice to apply with 2 different passports…

*under the new agreement

For news on the FTA – please check https://www.australia-backpackersguide.com/uk-australia-free-trade-deal-changes-working-holiday-visas/

You can only apply for it once. Whereas Australia are going to be allowing people that have been before to apply for their 2nd or 3rd years.

So, NZ are only increasing the age, not the amount of WHV’s you can have is that right?

Yep – seems that way from the response I got from the NZ PM’s office

Can you do one in NZ and then the three in Aus?

Seen article that Australian prime minister is in trouble for falsely telling U.K. and Aussies that the 2 no farming visas will come in this month which is actually incorrect.

https://www.skynews.com.au/australia-news/politics/good-news-for-australians-seeking-uk-working-holiday-visa/video/a62d612a3adeb0289979a0dc48392714

Sooo confused

It is all so confusing! Have anyone contacted either government for clarity on the WHV changes ? As the Aussie PM has twice now made it appear that changes will be made collectively, however, as already stated by many posters there is still the ‘within 2 years’ language circulating around media :S! Think my head is about to fall off!

Jonny, I also just spent 3 months in Melbourne on a tourist visa/trip to Asia, waiting around. I’m now back in Leicester working to regenerate funds to hopefully return to Aus to work at end of British summer…hope it works out for us!

I had a response today and they said within 2 years of 31st May then I have just seen this video of the PM confirming the changes will happen… I need to see it on the gov website before I believe anything.

I’m also concerned there is no mention of the removal of farm work as it was 13 years ago since I did my farm work and I don’t have payslips etc anymore as I didn’t think I’d ever be able to come back!

You have done the same as me! I was travelling through Asia and Bali then I arrived here at the beginning of April and praying I don’t have to fly home and come back later in the year (if the changes happen before Christmas) I’m 35 now so I only have until next March before I’m going to be too old…again haha!

What month do you think you will come back out?

Yeah I watched that video too and it could be seen as confirming the changes will be made when the trade deal comes into force, but could also just be him listing the benefits going forward without specifics :/

Yeah I didn’t want to have to pay for all of the flights either, but it’s at least opened up a summer in the UK…attending a few festivals will comfort me XD!

I’m hoping to fly back September 1st. Fingers crossed! Looking likely we wont hear anything until May 31st now though, unless they recognise people are waiting around for this information and release something sooner.

Heres to hope..!

Hi Dan – yes you can do a NZ WHV then an Australian one. But as I did one month of my NZ WHV in March 2020 they will not let me reapply for a second year in NZ 🙁

Hi Emma, do you know if there is any offical postings about this? Already spent a year in NZ, but this was my back up option if Oz didn’t get it done in time.

I can’t seem to find much, it’s still all the old information. Without the updated rules which will come into effect 31st June.

I keep checking daily for any update on the visa changes but like you said, it’s all old information.

I do think they will wait for the deal to officially enter into force and then set a date for the visas. I don’t think it will be 2 years down the line but maybe I’m just trying to convince myself otherwise haha

Hi Bradley, I emailed the NZ PM and got a reply from his office confirming that for NZ you will not be able to reapply. The response:

“The working holiday visa scheme only allows for a person to be granted one WHV. We are not currently considering granting further WHVs to those who were unable to use the full duration of their initial visa”

Trying to make sense of what is going on here.. i turn 33 in June so i have time but i’m desperate to get over to Aus asap.

Do we think that it could take another 2 years for the age to be put up?

By what I’m seeing id assume they will lift the age to 35 but it seems the farming will still be in place up to 2 years. But it’s all hearsay until it’s actually confirmed.

I am happy to do the farm work, after 3 years of waiting for news I just want to be over there!

Do we think the 31 May is the date for it going up to 35 officially, or 31 May is the date they will decide the day, so to speak..?!

James – people have said its possible on the 31st May, may be the date we will hear a date set for the visa age increase.

Have also heard others saying July is the time when changes happen etc but again, we’re all just guessing here.

Until there’s an official date announced and is on the government websites etc, we just gotta wait. This waiting game sucks

Yep it does suck. I’ve been checking up on this thread now for over 6 months. I have some time on my hands but it really sucks here in the UK right now and this weather is really giving me itchy feet!

Same here James….I think this is the site I’ve visited the most in the past 6 months! Sometimes I’m on here checking for comments 3 or 4 times a day ahaha.

I am holding out hope that others on this site are correct and we will hear someting at the end of the month.

I’m comparing this waiting to when I was younger waiting for Christmas day! I just can’t wait for it!

All quiet on the visa age change front. Still hoping to hear a date at the end of this month!

Guys, it’s at the stage now where both governments need to simply decide what date to implement the visa changes… I think we all need to contact and email our local MP’s and push for an update on when they plan to make the decision… I have emailed mine simply requesting to find out when they will be having the discussion and making a decision. Let’s all do it and get others to do the same. Just an idea haha

Will find out my local MPs details and give them an email later today. No harm in asking I suppose haha

You’d like to think with it been said that it’s going into force end of my may.. that we should find out by June..

I really hope so mate. Not sure why they can’t just give it an actual date

https://www.euronews.com/travel/2023/05/16/sunshine-high-wages-and-new-rules-australias-working-holiday-visa-is-opening-up-to-over-30

Stupid article giving false hope

Yeah it’s very annoying when they are like “rules set to change soon” then later in the article are like “government has 24 months to implement the changes”… That’s not soon and it’s not news as we have known this for 2 years already..FFS haha

Going to email my local MP to see if he has any info on the visa increase, won’t hurt to ask I guess.

Does anyone know what I could put to make my email look somewhat proffessional? I’m not very good at writing to people…how and what could I write? Thanks

And if you want a good start on this – genuinely just put something into ChatGPT and use that as a framework!

Poke this into ChatGPT and go from there: Please write a letter to my MP in the UK Parliament, asking for them to confirm the start date of the UK Australia working holiday visa age change. Please make it clear that I already understand the official comment on the 2 year implementation but want them to be more specific and not just quote old information.

My Local MP has been great – he even issued a follow up question because the first one contained the stock response. There have been 4 questions to the Home Secretary in the last few weeks – one still to be answered – but none contain any helpful information…

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions?Answered=Any&AnsweredFrom=&AnsweredTo=&DateFrom=01%2F03%2F2023&DateTo=01%2F12%2F2023&Expanded=False&House=Bicameral&SearchTerm=Australia&Page=2

Don’t sweat how you’re writing the email too much Dan, they’re humans after all – as long as it’s polite and makes sense! Don’t worry about it being word perfect.

I’m going to write back to my MP again and just reinforce that there’s been no new information from any of the responses and ask if there’s anything we can do to push for a date for an announcement.

Wow we made it to 1000+ comments and still no set date for the age changes! FFS!

3 years of ineptitude by both governments

https://lsj.com.au/articles/the-australia-uk-free-trade-agreement-and-what-it-means-for-the-legal-profession/

This article says the age changes will be 2025 :/

I wonder what their source is. And they only talk about Australians going to the Uk, not vice versa.

All we can do is wait until next week and see what the news on the 31st brings us.

In the absence of an official announcement – all of these news articles are just rehashing the stuff we already know (just phrasing it differently).

Wouldn’t sweat it until there’s a proper statement.

If it will be 2025,the majority of us can kiss goodbye to ever going over.

But yeah, I am remaining optimistic for next week for some sort of official statement that says otherwise.

If nothing is heard by the 31st, what other significant date would we be most likely to hear something do you think? Or if nothing is said by end of the month, will we be possibly looking at 2025?

Don’t think so mate. We all know the 2 year caveat that’s been quoted loads.

It could be two years – but I doubt it will be. As mentioned before – other changes have taken 4 months to be implemented.

Think this will be the question to keep an eye on over the next few days – although suspect this will come back with the same sh*t we’ve been quoted a million times before – it does at least ask a slightly different question about what conversations have been held!

https://questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2023-05-15/185173

Only thing I’m thinking with that article is that’s included with the no farming and age range surely they will at least do the age range instantly then do the farm work removal at another date. If so doesn’t make sense!

Someone on my road is a researcher for House of Lords so I’ve sent him a nice message asking if he will know the info on this fta and could tell me about anything he knows or could find out.

Any reply mate? Haha

Sent the message but hadn’t replied back…

If no new news comes out by next Wednesday, safe to say the age changes are cooked.

Very strange that the NZ changes were done swiftly and the Australian ones haven’t changed.

I was thinking the same. If no news by next week I reckon it will take almost 2 years for it to come in.

I’m probably wrong but becoming less and less optimistic by the day

Theres something going on in the background they’re not telling us which is why the changes haven’t happened.

Has to be! Surely it’s the only explanation. If next week comes and they’ve not announced a date, I’m going to be fuming

I’d be happy with a date on Wednesday. I’d just like to be able to plan what to do with my life lol.

I’m with you there! Stuck in limbo at the moment.

That’s the thing.

Hanging on, waiting. Not being able to make plans, commit to events and/or peoples schedules. So infuriating.

I have to imagine we won’t hear anything, and it won’t be in place for 1st July. Waited long enough. Greater forces at play, for which us mere mortals not know of.

I just had a reply from UK in Australia on twitter and they quoted this…

We are working to make the final arrangements for bringing this into force. Announcement soon…!

“Soon”

The word we’ve heard over 1000x times within these last two years

Just trying to stay positive for some news next week. Where did you get the reply from Jonny?

It was on twitter, they posted about the FTA coming in next week and I asked if they would be announcing the visa changes and that was their reply. It’s better than no news I guess haha

A glimmer of hope Johnny haha. Or they’ve just said that so it will shut us all up for a bit

Haha yeah I hope not

This wait has been crazy. I hope they follow through with it, so many people on hold with their travel plans. I’m so grateful for this forum btw thanks everyone for their updates!

Me too Raksha! This forum has become my place to vent and ask questions and talk with many people in the same situation as me.

Yeah I feel the same, I’m so glad I’m not the only person going through this horrible waiting game and can discuss things with you all.

I’m literally praying for news this week or I’m flying home for summer and hopefully can come back at the end of the year with the visa haha

Tomorrow is D Day

My prediction, nothing will be mentioned about the age changes.

‘This is the first ‘new’ UK trade deal signed since Brexit; the UK’s other trade agreements have largely rolled-over previous EU deals. The agreement is due to come into effect at midnight on 31 May 2023.’

Everything crossedddd

Fingers crossed for tomorrow or early Thursday morning (our time).

The replies Jonny’s had would make it sound like the announcement is close – it would make sense that it’s all tied together… stressful 48 hours coming up even longer if they still don’t give us an answer!

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/trade-minister-don-farrell-describes-uk-trade-deal-as-a-major-win-for-young-australians/news-story/2f4b9f7293bc74c6bbc304f0bce0b45a

Can anyone read this new article? It’s behind a paywall

I can… Here it says…

Australia’s free trade agreement with the UK has officially come into force, in what Trade Minister Don Farrell has called a “boon for young people”.

The deal will reduce tariffs on Australian products – including beef and wine – and significantly boost the mobility of younger workers through an expansion of working holiday visas.

Australians could previously apply to work in the UK only for two years and needed to be under the age of 30, but that eligibility has now risen to 35 years old, while the length of the maximum stay has increased to three years.

“Australians will benefit from new skilled visa pathways to the UK, providing more direct channels for aspiring young Australians to live and work in London, which has the world’s highest concentration of financial and professional services firms, before returning home to apply these skills in Australia,” Mr Farrell wrote for The Australian online. “Our free trade agreement with the United Kingdom, which enters into force today, is so vital. It will help grow our domestic industries and homegrown manufacturing capabilities, delivering benefits to Australian businesses, and creating new ell-paying jobs. This new trade agreement will open new export opportunities, promote greater investment into Australia and help diversify our trade relationship.”

Losing hope, you can read the article here:

https://archive.ph/WGJGP

Hopefully this is made official on the Australia Immigration website if the article is correct!

January 2024 guys…

https://canberraweekly.com.au/australia-uk-free-trade-agreement-begins-today/

Hey Jonny thanks for posting. If legit I hope this fits your needs x

Good spot mate! Will wait for it to be confirmed via official sources too – but that’s definitely better than the worst-case scenario! Does that sort you out?

Well that means I’m farked

I turn 36 in aug

Absolute clown show this whole thing has been. Why can’t they make the changes now or july

Oh well, I’m already In Asia teaching with work so it’s not all bad, but it would have been good to have options

The article doesn’t comment on when the WHV for UK citizens to come to Australia begins.

Hi Fran, from 1st July 2023 for the age increase. Cheers

Long shot but if you can apply beforehand like Dan mentioned maybe you have a chance for next year?

They have honoured people applying just before they turn 31 previously?

If not then gutted 🙁

You are safe mate… 1st July for the age increase but the farm work isn’t until 1st July 2024 so I’m screwed haha

As far as I can tell, this article says when Australians can move for the UK WHV. Does it also mention anything about the Australian WHV (for those of us from the UK)?

Hi Fran, the agreement allows indeed UK citizens to come to Australia up until their 36th bday. Cheers

Stupid question incoming….For UK citizens, we will be able to apply for a visa for Aus in January 2024? Or can we apply before hand? Information overload in the past hour on this forum hahaha

Happy to be corrected – but I think you can apply/be approved beforehand – but not to enter before the 31st of Jan. All of my mates on WHV’s have been approved in less than 24 hours up to now – but I guess they’ll have a fair backlog from these changes so it may go to a few weeks?

Interesting comment there, Alex! I hope this is true, because I will apply tonight hahaha.

Has visa processing become that quick? I know when my mate applied during beginning of corona, his took about 8 months! But I guess a lot of office workers were off, borders were closed and everything just took so long.

If anyone can comment on this, please do….I got butterflies HAHAHA

My first year Australia whv (2018) came through in 24 hours 🙂

If we can apply before so like tomorrow Dan hahaha that would be fab with the intention of going next year – that’s what I wanna do

Need to see what they officially say! Guess I can start looking for jobs this side of the year then which is fab!

Cant believe the anticipation i really thought it would be earlier!

Reporting it on the Sydney Morning Herald now too:

Australia’s trade deal with UK comes into force By Caroline Schelle

Australia’s free trade deal with the United Kingdom will come into force today, with more than 99 per cent of Australian products to enter the country duty-free.

Australian producers of wine, beef, sheep meat, grains, rice, sugar, and dairy products will benefit from duty-free quotas or tariff elimination.

Assistant Trade Minister Tim Ayres told ABC Breakfast News this morning said the deal would provide more opportunity for exporters, firms and workers.

“They are one of our oldest friends of course, the United Kingdom, but this is a new chapter in the economic relationship,” Ayres said this morning.

He said the deal would mean $4 billion worth of goods from the UK would be tariff-free, and would lead to a $200 million a year advantage for Australian consumers.

For exporters to the UK, up to 99 per cent would be tariff-free and there was significant progress on agricultural goods including wine, and red meat.

“Some … uplift in beef and lamb quotas, for example, is spread over a few years,” Ayres said.

British products including cars, whisky, confectionery, biscuits and cosmetics coming into Australia are expected to be cheaper.

And from January 31, more Australians will be able to apply for working holidays in the UK and stay for longer.

Thanks for Sharing Michelle 🙂

Unlucky – Losing Hope.

This has taken way too long. Our lives have been in limbo for years now.

Hoping for those on the right side of 35 it’s all worked out okay!

Fingers crossed we get official statement today.

So, it’s not official but the date seems to be Jan 2024?

https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/uk-news/2023/05/30/beano-features-in-australia-and-new-zealand-trade-deals/

This article is saying July 1. Nothing is official until the government websites release the official statement

It says July 1st the age limit for uk applicants going to aus will go from 30 to 35. But from july 1 next year, uk applicants will be able to stay up to 3 years….i cant make sense of that at all, but it is late and im tired haha

The government website has been updated with the 1st of July 2023 for the age range!

1st July 2024 for the removal of farm work… I’m screwed a bit as I did my farm work in 2010 but payslips back then we’re handing to you with your wages in a envelope… I have no idea where I put them as I didn’t think I’d ever need them again until now. Anyone have any idea?

Once you’ve had a proper look, if you still don’t have them – I’d maybe contact the farm where you worked as they may keep records (even if they paid you cash). They’ll likely get audited too so I’d assume they’ll be a paper trail somewhere. They may not be helpful – but I guess it’s worth a shot. Failing that I’d speak to a human in immigration and see what they can offer you, might be worth getting an immigration lawyer?

Well it looks like for UK passport holders they can apply for the new YMS visas from 1st of July Australian passport holders will need to wait untill January 31st 2024! Even though I will still only he 34 by then I think I will go to canada for the time being as I’m already in the UK and cant be bothered waiting around so long At least in Canada I can also see America and if anything , it makes the decision easier for me by taking an option away for now There’s also the possibility of Denmark or france or ireland or italy but I feel Canada will be cool

Heres the link

https://www.nationaltribune.com.au/changes-to-australia-s-working-holiday-maker-program-and-the-uk-s-youth-mobility-scheme/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12141367/UK-Australia-working-holiday-rules-changing-need-know-farm-work-scrapped.html

Hallelujah.

Shafted with the July 2024 – another year of waiting until I can go.

Doesn’t make sense.

Why is it the UK always gets the raw end of the deal?!? I’m in the same position as Losing Hope and turn 36 in August. I did my first 1 year whv back in 2018-2019 and was just in the age limit (30), so doing farm work didn’t make sense at the time as I wouldn’t of been able to get a 2nd year whv anyway due to my age. Now it seems brits still have to wait until 1st July 2024 for the specified farm work requirements to be removed (this is bullsh*t!), yet people from Oz don’t have to meet any requirements coming to the UK? This isn’t like for like and I’m just sick of this UK government bending over for a half-assed deal that frankly no-one gives a sh*t about. Such wasted hope for many over the last few years!

I’m screwed too mate. I’ll be 36 by the time the farm was is scrapped. Never again will I put any hope in the government

NZ is an option?

With the third year/6 month option only available from July 2019, does anyone know if they’d accept payslips prior to that date?I’ve got 3 months before and 3 after it stitched me out of my third year back then

Hi Dunk, work needs to be performed after 1st July 2019 – so only your 3 months worked after this date will be counted. (Please note that the FTA is now into force so UK passport holders will be able to apply for another year even if they did not do the work (from July 2024)). Cheers

Thanks for the speedy reply folks, really appreciate it. had a feeling it might be a long reach for it to be back dated but worth an ask to save applying for a 189. 2024 isn’t all too far away and for those on this group who tick over the age bracket, I hope you all make it over there whether it be on 189 visas, student or sponsorship. Thanks for all the updates too, it’s kept me focused and motivated all winter

So, if you apply to go in July 2023, will you still have to do farm work to get the second and third visa when the rules change in 2024?

I will be turning 36 in February 2024. Under the new guidelines I will be eligible to apply on the the 1st of July. My question is, can I apply for all three visas in one go even though I will be over 35 for the last 2 years?

Hi Janine, you can only apply for 1 year at a time. So you can apply on 1st July and then apply for a second year just before turning 36. Cheers

Thanks for all your posts – really helpful

Can i get this straight, the age changes to 35 as of 31 July 2023? The farm work is by the by for me (happy to do it) but just trying to make sense if I will be able to apply and go from 1 July 2023. (I turn 33 in June this year)

Hi James, as far as I can tell, if you haven’t had a WHV before, you can apply on 1st July 2023. From what I can see on the “welcome to travel” website, we will not have to do the farm work, as that will be removed by the time we apply for a second visa in July 2024.

Why don’t you guys just go when it changes in a months time, why do you have to wait til July 2024? That’s an awfully long wait

I will be applying in July 2023. But for people that have already been to Aus and didn’t complete any farm work, they will have to wait until July 2024.

Oh, I see. Thanks Emma

Im in the same boat 34 atm and had my 1st year in 2015 but never stayed and didnt do the farm work. All this info is just making it all confusing

Hi Glen, you will be able to apply form 1st July 2024 (but before your 36th bday).

Thank you for the reply much appreciated just gutted its a years wait to apply for my 2nd 3rd years

Hi so am 34 never been to ozz dose that mean I can apply for visa 1st of July and won’t have to do any farm work as il be flying out December this year many thanks peeps

Hi Tony, yes you can apply from 1 July 2023. Then to renew, you will need to apply before turning 36. Cheers and Enjoy 🙂

https://visaenvoy.com/working-holiday-visas-will-increase-for-uk-and-australians-up-to-the-age-of-35/

Don’t know whether this makes it any clearer but we can apply from the 1st July!

Absolutely buzzing! I’ve already been in contact with my friend whose already over there to let him know I will be applying 1st July. He’s already got things planned for us to do hahaha

I’m really happy others get to apply as well but also feel for those who will miss out due to age.

If I applied and had a visa accepted just after covid when i was 30, but never actually used the visa – i.e. i never actually went out to Australia at all in the end… i can still apply for the visa right? I think you guys said that would be fine, but just wanted to double check again! Thanks!

I can’t believe it’s actually happening after all this time! I hope the website doesn’t crash on 1st July haha

Finally good news, I will be going Vietnam,Thailand,Tokyo,Sydney,Melbourne for November onwards, finally come together!

Hope everyone got what they needed. And thanks to everyone for commenting and helping each other with the information needed!

I’m in a weird situation. First of all thanks to everyone who’s been posting all these months and keeping us all updated.

I’m from Scotland and my fiancé is Australian. He turns 36 in September. We need to move back to the UK as my mum isn’t well but because of the nature of our jobs (we’re ski instructors and have been travelling between NZ and Japan for years) we aren’t eligible for a partner visa.

Am I right in reading that the rules change for Brits going to Australia in July 2023 but Australians going to the UK it’s January 2024?

Thanks again for the help!

Hi Jane, yes it will be from January for Australians…

Just doesn’t seem to make sense that it’s not happening at the same time

I had a WHV granted in 2 years ago but i never arrived in Australia… I am now 32 and want to apply again in July of this year, I just want to make sure this is possible? My original visa was never activated but it was granted, i just never used it. If you could confirm that would be great!

Hi James, Yes you will be able to apply as you never ‘activated’ your visa by entering the country. Cheers

Best of luck to everyone! I am unable to find my farm work proof from 2010 and turn 36 in March so I’m one of the unlucky people to miss out on the fantastic opportunity.

Back in the UK now so time to get back to reality for me haha

Jonny – If you turn 36 in March, why can’t you apply for a visa in July this year? Sorry, I’m still learning all of this visa stuff haha.

I have already done my 1st visa but I can’t find any records of my farm work as it was 13 years ago and since they aren’t removing the farm work requirements until July 24 I’ll be too old by then… Worst outcome for me

Keep hunting for it in the meantime Johnny. You never know, you might find it

Can u not apply when you are 35 ? And enter in July 2024 when they life the restrictions .

Hi Laura, you can apply up to your 36th bday. Cheers

I’m 35 now as of Feb 2nd.

From July 1st I can apply for a working holiday visa but that only allows me one year, is that right? I can’t then apply to extend as i’ll be 36?

Can you advise?

Hi Kyle, yes you can apply from July. If you want to renew, you ll need to do it before you turn 36 (up to the day before your bday). Cheers

Am sorting my visa 1st of July and a friend out there could have me a sponcer how dose it go from there planning and hoping to apply for passport eventually??

This is what I am hoping for as well, Tony.

I’ve read many things saying it’s difficult if you’re unskilled and even read that apparently it’s not as hard as it seem. I take it you mean permanent residency?

I am currently 35 from the UK and turn 36 in may 2024

Am i elegible for 3 years still when the new rules kick in or only 1 as will turn 36 in may 2024?

Hi Dan, from July you can apply for a WHV. You will be able to apply for a second year up until you turn 36 (may 24). Cheers

Yes permanent mate what is it that you do yourself pal ?

I’m just a section supervisor in a supermarket… Nothing skilled or special haha. What about you?

In the lifting game mate work with cranes ️ hopefully everyone gets sorted good look peeps

I am absolutley gutted that the visa changes are implemented next year for Aussies. But Nzers are earlier! I might have to look at other avenues but losing hope:(

Just so I have this right… From July 1st, I can apply for a WHV for Australia (UK)

and if I travel out January 2024, will have to do farm work until they remove it in July 2024?

You won’t need to make because when your first visa runs out in January 2025 the farm work requirements will have already been removed.

So if I plan to go in Jan 2024, I can just get any old job without the farm work?

Yeah youll not have to do it mate,when or if you renew to a 2nd year the farm work will have been removed well before then

Yeah mate haha

So I’m 34 and from the UK. I turn 35 next April. If I land in Australia in January 2024 on a working holiday visa am I right in thinking I can stay there for 2 years?

January 2024 I will be aged 34 years and 9 months (first year of wh visa)

January 2025 I will be aged 35 years and 9 months old (second year of wh visa)

Will I be able to get a 2nd year wh visa as I’ll be under 36?

Hi Adam, yes as long as you apply before turning 36. Cheers

Please help, if I’m applying for my first Aus whv do I need to apply when I’m in the UK as I’m planning on going to NZ first for a whv then Aus. Can I apply for my Aus whv while I’m in New Zealand ?

Have they removed the ‘6 months max working per employer’ limitation??

I thought the new arrangements meant we could work for the same employer for the full duration of our WHV?

Hi i just turn 31 yo last month and early this year i got my 2nd year visa. I am indonesia, is there any chance i can get 3rd whv 462 ? Currently i work in agriculture job

Hi Sultan, from 1st July the age limit is increased to 35 for UK passport holders 🙂

Hi Tom, I don’t think so, I think that was only removed during COVID.

I have booked my flight to New Zealand and will be going to Aus in October!

Already filled out what I can on my visa application so on the 1st of July I can finish it off and submit it. Getting prepared early hahaha

I don’t no we’re to start what website do I use for visa application please ?

This is the website to use. immi.homeaffairs.gov.au

Create an account and away you go

Wondering if you would be able to help …

I’m turning 35 this month. I completed my 1st WHV in 2011. I never did any farm work. Am I able to apply for a 2nd WHV? I’m confused with the ages (some state 30-35 years old inclusive) and requirements. Any help appreciated. Thanks

Hi Megan, no you will be able to apply only from July 2024.

Hi, thanks for the response.

In July 2024, I will have turned 36, so I’m guessing this isn’t an option for me?

There is a strong chance of me getting a sponsorship before I go dose this mean I can apply for citizenship after couple years how dose it work please thanks

Will a drink driving ban from 6 years ago and 3 points for speeding stop me from getting my visa peeps ????

Had a quick look on Google, Tony and from what I can see they will refuse if you have a ‘substantial’ criminal record or served prison time. I’m no law expert but I’d say you’re safe with your ban and points.

How much money are you all taking with you to Australia? Im hoping to go in January and by that time I should have £6.5k. Just curious that’s all

I have just applied for my 2nd visa. I was able to find a lot of information about my farm work but not all the payslips. However, I did my 1st visa in 2010 and the requirements for payslips didn’t come in until 2015 so I wrote a covering letter along with my documents so fingers crossed they are happy with the documents I have supplied.

Is there a limit to how many whv are granted for uk citizens to Aus per year ?

I hope not! I’m applying on Saturday just to be one of the first to get my application in haha

Apparently theres maintenance works on 30th June – 1st July on the immigration website haha. I just went to register for an account! Might start filling in my application form like you said Dan just to get the ball rolling. Hope its easy!

Yep quite easy and quick! Hope you got your visa yet 🙂

Visa applications open tomorrow!!! As far as I know there is no cap for British citizens applying.

Visa applications open tomorrow!! As far as I know there is no cap for British citizens applying.

Just applied haha

Hey I’m looking to apply for the visa but the website hasn’t changed it’s age (UK requirements) it still says 30. Is it worth hanging on or should I apply?

Hey Daniel, all good now?

Hey sorry I’ve only just noticed you replied. Yes I applied on the 1st and was granted instantly. Woo thank you

Hi, I’m looking to apply as well and it still says UK = 30 same as the table above in this article which is making me wonder if it’s worth risking the application?

Anyone else applied recently and know?

Hi sita, age limit is 35 for UK passport holders. Cheers

Applied today and within seconds I was granted the visa! How bloody quick was that!

Immi website a bit temperamental at the min I found, probably due to the high volumes of traffic

I applied and approved within the same minute! Feels so real now, can’t wait.

Were these first or second WHV Dan and Emma?

I applied for my second year and still no approval. Not declined, but no approval either.

I know I’m just being impatient (and maybe a little paranoid)

How did you manage to apply for you second year ? I thought the second year wasn’t possible until 2024 ?

Emma – Crazy isn’t it! My mate (who left for Aus last year) said it wont feel quite real until you get that email to say it’s been approved

Tom – Mine was a 1st WHV.

I was expecting to wait ages, had to read the document twice to make sure I saw right.

When did you apply for your 2nd WHV?

Yesterday! Took hours to complete, lots of info needed on farm work, including uploading of pay slips etc.

And site was was glitchy, a few refreshes needed.

I wonder if they work Sundays? And maybe I’ll be at update today. I’m already out here on a tourist visa!

Congrats guys! Hope you enjoy OZ

I’m the same as you Tom – I have applied for my 2nd visa yesterday but haven’t had any response yet.

I’m back in the UK now but if my visa grants I’m coming back to Australia later in the year

My 2nd year has been granted!! Only took 5 days

Jonny, how did you do this with you working previously?

Did you find your payslips?

I had the details of the farms and tax returns from when I claimed by tax back… Didn’t have payslips and didn’t need them as I worked there before 2015 (that’s when they required you to send payslips) I worked on farms on my first WHV

Just got my Visa through at 35, incredible feeling!! Sausage rolls on me!

Yayyaya! Congrats and enjoy

All so lucky being able to apply now!! ive gotta wait till July 2024 to apply for my 2nd Have a great time all ☀️

I wonder if they are focusing on 1st WHV’s first as they anticipated loads of applications yesterday?

Hope you don’t have to wait too much longer

Hey folks congratulations to all of you that have had your visas approved! Just wondering if anyone has any info regarding application for whvs whilst an EOI for PR is underway? Due to get my trades assessment approval back this week and will be eligible for my 3rd year next July but apprehensive about the wait times and concerned that it may snooker me if I get the 189 underway beforehand, cheers!

Hi guys just wondering if yas could help me out I have applied for my visa it says received will that say excepted once all done or will I receive a email many thanks guys good luck

Hi Tom – 1st WHV for me too, so way less paperwork etc for them to get through to approve mines. They might actually have to get a human to look at yours whereas I’m sure mines was just ran through computer software as it was approved so quickly.

Hi Tony – you will get another email through to say it has been granted.

Applied on Saturday and granted just moments later for first WHV. Incredible.

Yay! Congrats!

Hi my visa is asking for a character declaration what is this and how do go about it thanks

Just applied for mine and it was granted straight away! Had to double check I wasn’t missing anything hahaha

So surreal I’m well excited! Is anyone looking to find work in the architectural/ construction field?!

Hi, follow up to my original question. Kind of taking this scenario to the extreme.

Could I apply for the WH visa and have it approved when I’m 35 years and 364 days old, and then be able to enter Australia a few months later when I’m 36 years old to do a 1 year working holiday?

I guess a simpler way to ask is do you have 1 year from your visa being approved to enter australia even if you’re 36 years old? Or do you age out automatically when you turn 36 regardless of WH visa being approved.

I ask because I’m either going to go this December, or do a masters degree and then go for a year.

Hi Adam, yes you have 12 months to enter Australia once your visa has been granted 🙂

Sensational. Can you point me to an official website that can give me confirmation of that just for my peace of mind? I’m not saying you’re wrong, you do a great job, and run a terrific website.

Hi Adam, it says it on the immigration website and it also says it on the visa itself.

Awesome. One last question, do you need to show proof of the 5k (Aus Dollars) and enough for a return flight in your bank account when applying for the visa or just when you enter Australia?

Hi Adam, you will need to show proof of the funds when applying for the visa. No need to have a return ticket though. Cheers

Hi I have applied for whv I declared a drink driving conviction which is 7 years old and 3 penalty points they asked for police certificate I have sent back which is clean as a whistle dose anyone no how long it will take to process and will I be ok for visa ??

Youll be fine mate 2 weeks roughly when i had applied for my 1st visa with a certificate

Anyone no how to get in touch for update on whv I applied on 2nd had to apply police certificate heard nothing as yet or you think it’s a back log thanks peeps

Hi Tony, try through your immiaccount or Vevo. Cheers

Do you no how long it can take to be granted thanks

Hi Tony, really depends, can be a few hours up to a few weeks …

Anyone applied for whv with police certificate submitted mine on the 2nd then uploaded certificate on the 9th July still waiting for response what yas think ??

Just says further assessment on immi account

If I get my first year in July 2024 ages 35 can I get my second year ages 36 in 2025 ?

Can I get a second year visa at 36 if I get my first year at 35 ?

I applied for the visa 1st year on immi website, completely upload and payment and i have an email with a ‘granted’ letter and it just says ‘granted’ on my immi account.

I assume this means i now have the visa? Seemed odd because i literally applied and it took no time at all, literally happened instantly as soon as i paid!

Hi James. Haven’t been on here in a while. Yes, it does mean you have your visa. Mine took 10 seconds! I had to check as well as I didn’t think it would be approved so quick – a facebook group I’m on saying it was likely auto-approved by the system which I guess means it wasn’t passed on to a human for further inspection.

I applied for whv on 2nd July they asked for police certificate after I declared a drink driving conviction which is 7 years old and 3 penalty points which are 2 years old I submitted certificate on 9th July which is clean haven’t heard anything since any info peeps please thanks

Anyone’s visa taking so long ?

Hi everyone has anyone got a email address I can use to contact anyone to chase up my visa as I have been waiting 2 months thanks

Visa granted finally!! I will be working in construction my occupation isn’t on the list can I still aim to getting PR ?

I’ve been checking this site every few days to see if your visa had been granted Tony, glad it finally has!

I’m also looking into PR without any skilled related things – been doing some research but getting mixed answers, with some saying it’s easier than people think while others say it’s almost impossible without a skill on the list or a shed tonne of money.

Hopefully we get sorted mate good luck

I’m praying we do. For a better life, aye!?

Hi everyone! Just been reading through out old messages and stresses about the visa! My 2nd visa got granted in July and I have just booked my flight, landing at the end of Feb! Hope everyone has sorted out their visas and have the best time down under!

Hi! Thanks for that article!

I’m 31 and Spanish and Brazilian citizenship.

Do I still have any possibility of working visa?

Couldnt find at Aussie government website.

Hi Isabela, You must be aged 18 to 30 years old (inclusive) when you apply. If you apply for the visa while you are 30, but turn 31 before the government have made a decision, they can still grant you the visa if you meet all other requirements.

Hi, i’m italian, i have now 35 years old, can i apply for the work holiday 417 now and travel to Australia with 36 years old?

Hi there, yes you can apply until your 36th bday. Once approved you ll have 1 year to enter Australia (you can enter even if you are 36). Cheers and enjoy 🙂

Hi, i am a uk citizen and currently 33 years old. I want to apply for the work holiday visa next year, i will be 34 then. When the first visa is issued i will have 12 months in oz and if i am happy there id like to renew it but i will be 35 years old then. Am i allowed to stay for 3 years on a whv consecutively so long as i arrive before im 36 or if i turn 36 in oz i wont be allowed to renew for a 3rd year whv as ill be to old?

Hi Adam, you can apply up until your 36th bday. So once you apply, you have 12 months to enter Australia and then you can decide to renew (but before you turn 36). Cheers

Hi, I’m 32 and from England I haven’t done a working holiday and Australia before, if I apply for the Australian working holiday visa now, would I still be required to do the farm work to extend the visa in the future?

Hi Bill, no as you will need to renew after the new rule enters into force in July 2024. Cheers

Hi there! In your article you said: „Other partner countries (such as Germany) are still in the process to amend the bilateral Working Holiday Maker agreement expanding the eligibility age to 35“

Can you give me some more information on how you know that Germany is already in the process of amending the age limit? I can‘t find anything about that online, it would be amazing!

Thank you!!!

Hi Deniz, other countries are discussing the age limit but nothing has been decided or published so far.

Hi peeps am moving to Brisbane on 30th Jan on my 417 just wondering what travel insurance to take out with me Gona be gone for at 3 years or can I just take short term cover until I get there and then sort it in ozz thanks

HiTony, you can check https://www.australia-backpackersguide.com/travel-insurance-australia/

Hi I’ve landed in Brisbane and have a job next couple of weeks how dose it work with working for the same company for more than 6 months as this job is long term also how long is it before I apply for my 2nd year visa and how do I do it thanks

Hi Tony, From 1 January 2024, until further government decisions, you can work for the same employer in Australia for more than 6 months without asking permission if your work is:

in different locations and work in any one location does not exceed 6 months in plant and animal cultivation anywhere in Australia in certain industries, including aged care and disability services, fishing and pearling, tree farming and felling, construction and mining, in northern Australia only (see Northern Australia) natural disaster recovery work in critical sectors, including agriculture, food processing, health, aged and disability care and childcare, anywhere in Australia in the critical sector of tourism and hospitality anywhere in Australia.

Hi how is it before you need to apply for second visa couple months before first 1 runs out ?

I completed a 1 year WHV back in 2012/13. I did not complete any regional work back then.

Is the requirement for 3 month regional work still set to be removed on July 1st 2024? I am now 34 and looking to apply for a 2nd WHV.

Hi Marc Yes you should be able to apply after 1st July. Cheers

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If you’re a wanderluster looking for your next travel destination, hoping to get your adrenaline pumping again and make some money while you’re at, the Land Down Under is calling you. Australia is one of the few bucket-list travel destinations that offer a year-long working holiday program for under 30’s , so you can work in Australia to fund your travel bug.

Spend your weekends at the Sydney opera house when you participate in a work and holiday program in Australia!

But mate, there’s a reason they call it a work and holiday visa. The Aussies know how to live life to its fullest; even the Department of Immigration encourages young visitors to explore everything this beautiful country has to offer, rather than hiding out in an office during your time abroad. The deal is: you can work for one employer for six months, and the other six months can, and should , be spent on travel. 

If you only have a year (or less) to work and travel Australia, why wouldn’t you take advantage of the TRAVEL? Here’s our best advice on where to go and what to do while you work in Australia .

14 must-have travel experiences while you work in Australia

Oh, Australia, the land of sun, sea, and natural beauty! From the golden beaches and coastal breezes, to the red center, to lush rainforest, the wonderful world of Oz is every nature lover’s dream. It could take an entire lifetime to check off every item on the Aussie traveler’s bucket list, but we’ve narrowed it down for you.

The Great Barrier Reef, along with lots of other great things, awaits you in Australia.

Here are some must-have travel experiences while you work and travel Australia.

1. Scuba dive the Great Barrier Reef

You can’t work and travel Australia without making time for one of the world’s greatest wonders. Off the coast of Northern Queensland, you’ll find the largest living ecosystem in the world: the Great Barrier Reef. Whether you’re an expert scuba diver or a first-timer, it’s the perfect place to explore the underwater world of living coral and colorful fish. If you’re lucky, you might even find Nemo! Head up to Cairns or the Whitsundays for a long weekend—there are plenty of tours to bring you out to the best diving spots, gear included!

2. Watch the sunrise (and set) over Uluru

It’s beautiful and it’s got a fun name. What’s not to love?

Venture into the vast, empty middle of the country, and you’ll find yourself in the Northern Territory’s “Red Centre,” home to the biggest monolith in the world. Uluru, also known as Ayer’s Rock, is one of the most sacred Australian indigenous landmarks. While it’s isolated in the middle of Australia, Uluru is worth the journey. Take four or five days to disconnect from civilization and get in touch with Australia’s native culture, whether you join a tour or rent a car to explore on your own. The best part: you can soak in the most magnificent sunrises and sunsets as the colors of the rock change with the shifting sun.

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3. drive the great ocean road.

Love road trips? So do the Aussies! Australia’s major cities are vastly spread, and it can take over 10 hours just to cross state lines. Naturally, road tripping is essential if you want to explore the country to its fullest. After you work in Australia, hit the open road for one of Oz’s greatest road trips: the Great Ocean Road. Join a tour if needed, but the best way to do it is to rent a car and spend two or three days driving the 250 kilometers from Torquay to Warrnambool along the coast of Victoria. Search for koalas along Kennett River, visit the few remaining of the Twelve Apostles, spend the night in Apollo Bay, and take in those glorious ocean views.

These limestone stacks, famously named “The Twelve Apostles,” are among some of the amazing views you can see on the Great Ocean Road! 

4. Climb the Sydney Harbour Bridge

When you arrive in Sydney Harbour—Opera House in full view, cold beer in hand, aboriginal didgeridoos echoing in the distance—it will hit you: you’re on the other side of the world. It is one of the most iconic places to visit while you work and travel Australia, but the best view is from above. Conquer your fear of heights and climb the Sydney Harbour Bridge! Bridge Climb tours are available on a daily basis, so you can join solo or with friends to climb 134 meters above the harbor. Your tour guide will deck you out in a blue jumpsuit and harness so you’ll be looking fine for a photo above Circular Quay.

Admire both the Sydney Harbour Bridge and the Opera House when you travel abroad in Australia.

5. Camp in Tasmania

Located south of Australia’s mainland, the island-state of Tasmania is often overlooked by visitors to Australia, but it’s well worth the stop. Tasmania features some of the most untouched wilderness in the world. Pitch a tent, strap on your hiking boots, and explore stunning national parks while you work and travel Australia. In between hikes, you can sip on wine from Australia’s best vineyards, wander through fields of wild wombats, and spend your nights searching for the aurora australis , also known as the Southern Lights.

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6. 4w drive through fraser island.

Can’t get enough camping? You won’t want to miss Fraser Island, the world’s largest sand island located off the coast of Queensland. There are no roads on Fraser Island, so half the adventure is getting around. While it’s possible to rent your own four-wheel drive, it can be difficult for inexperienced drivers to navigate the dunes without getting stuck. Instead, join one of the many tour companies that organize trips out to the island for two or three days. Your group will cruise down sandy beaches spotted with wild dingoes, visit freshwater lakes and champagne pools, and set up camp under an unreal night sky untainted by light pollution

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7. Surf in Byron Bay

If you’re planning to work in Australia, you’ve probably day dreamed about long beach days, bronzed skin, and salty hair. It’s true, Australia’s coasts boast some of the most pristine beaches in the world. Whether you’re an experienced surfer or just want to check another item off your Aussie bucket list, head to Byron Bay for every surfer’s paradise. This tiny town is nestled on the coast of northern New South Wales, featuring a chill vibe and killer waves. Ditch your shoes, throw on your swimmers, and dive headfirst into sparkling water. Rent a board for the day, or join a week-long surf camp.

8. Swim with whale sharks at Ningaloo Reef

The Ningaloo Reef, located in Western Australia, is arguably better than the Great Barrier Reef. While the GBR is iconic, it’s also sadly dying. Ningaloo, on the other hand remains untouched. This UNESCO World Heritage Site is one of the only reefs that lies so close to the beach, so you can grab your own snorkel gear, or rent some nearby, and walk straight into the water. What makes it even more unforgettable? It’s one of the only places in the world where you can swim with whale sharks, the largest fish on earth!

We bet you can’t guess which one of the fish here is the whale shark! ;)

9. Sleep on a boat in the Whitsundays

There’s nothing like waking up in the morning with a dip in the cool ocean water, soaking in the warm Aussie sun all day, and falling asleep to the gentle rock of waves. If you’re planning to hit the Great Barrier Reef while you work and travel Australia, take advantage of the overnight boat tours around the Whitsunday islands off the coast of Queensland for a unique travel experience. Spend one, two, or three nights on a boat, island hopping, searching for sea turtles by day and stargazing by night. It’s the perfect holiday and you’re bound to leave with new best friends!

10. Lounge on Australia’s most Australian beach

With most of the main cities scattered along the east coast, most won’t make it to Western Australia. Don’t be one of those people! At some point while you work in Australia, road trip with new mates along the coast of Western Australia and make a stop at Lucky Bay, just east of Esperance. With sand as fine and white as snow and clear turquoise water, Lucky Bay is comparable to the famous Whitehaven Beach, minus the tourists. Take a picnic and your sunnies for a day in paradise. The only ones you’ll have to share the beach with are the resident kangaroos.

Take a break from your adventures to lounge on the beach at Lucky Bay.

11. Visit Karijini National Park

Another popular stop on the typical WA Perth-to-Broome road trip is Karijini National Park. The park contains Western Australia’s three highest mountain peaks, along with some of oldest banded rocks in the world. It is a hiker’s dream come true, with excellent trails and stunning watering holes hidden throughout. Stop for a few days while you work and travel Australia for trekking, and keep an eye out for kangaroos and rock wallabies lurking in the cliffs.

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12. ride camels on cable beach.

End your journey on the WA trail with a camel ride on Cable Beach. While it’s a bit touristy, there is nothing like watching the sunset over the Indian Ocean as you stroll along the shoreline atop these magnificent creatures. Join one of the many hour-long tours that depart from Broome on a daily basis, and soak in those incredible views. It’ll be quite a story to tell your friends and family after you finish your work in Australia.

Yes, it really looks like that!

13. Conquer the Ol’ Telly Track

If you’re an adventure seeker and four-wheel-drive enthusiast, consider going off the beaten path… literally! The Old Telegraph Track is what’s left of the original telegraph track in the 1880’s, running north from Cairns to the tip of North Queensland on the Cape York Peninsula. It’s the ultimate road trip during the dry season in Australia, with river crossings and muddy, sandy, rocky roads. The drive will feel like a roller coaster as you navigate unsteady terrain and drive neck deep through water. The journey is not for the faint of heart, but the adventure and stunning scenery will definitely be memorable.

14. Discover nearby islands in the Pacific

After finishing your work in Australia, consider checking out nearby countries. Cheap flights are available to neighboring islands, and backpacker tour agencies in Australia can help you plan your trip, whether you want to go solo or join a tour. Spend a week exploring even more beautiful beaches in Fiji and Bali, or step into Middle Earth for stunning mountainous views and more outdoor adventure in New Zealand. You’re already on the other side of the world, so why not?

Spend your hard-earned Aussie dollars on unforgettable adventures!

This could be you during your work and holiday program in the great Down Under!

No one works abroad to save money—the whole point is to earn more so you can see more! After all, you have your whole life ahead of you to build up your savings. Take advantage of the opportunity to work and travel Australia by seizing every opportunity and adventure abroad .

Don’t hide behind your desk. Instead, grab your sunnies and thongs, book a plane ticket or rent a car, and embrace that good ol’ Aussie sunshine. Check off the obvious bucket list items, but don’t be afraid to branch out into unknown territory to experience Oz to its fullest. Put the TRAVEL in work and travel Australia, and spend those hard-earned colorful dollars on an adventure of a lifetime!

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Can you get a working visa for Australia if you’re over 30?

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Can you get a working visa for Australia if you’re over 30? [Updated 2023]

Many people contact us to explore their options of being able to work in Australia once they are over 30.   The good news is that even though you may be slightly older, there are many options open to you if you are older than 30.

Currently, Australia’s Working Holiday programme has an upper age limit of 30, but soon that upper age limit may be increased to 35. It’s a great way of taking the opportunity to see Australia and what it can offer, whilst earning some money.

Many working visa holders then apply for permanent visas to stay here. 

Change in Working Holiday visa

The Australian Government recognises the importance of working holidays to the country’s economy.  People on Working Holiday visas contribute towards the $43.4 billion tourism industry and provide much-needed labour in areas such as agriculture, tourism and hospitality.

In recent times the number of people taking up the Working Holiday visa option has declined.  To the year-end 2014, the number of people who came on a working holiday visa was 215,000 compared to 258,000 to year-end 2013 and that is one of the reasons why the programme will be extended to those up to 35 years of age.

There are currently 19 countries which are eligible for this programme including South Korea, Ireland, the UK and Canada.  A different Working Holiday visa is available to those from Chile, Thailand and the USA.  You can spend a year in this country, but it can be extended for another 12 months if you complete at least 3 months of specified work in regional Australia. 

New Working Holiday visa benefits

Those who want a Working Holiday visa and are aged over 30 will also benefit from a reduction in the cost of a visa application and can look forward to being taxed less on their earnings. If you take home less than $37,000 a year, the tax rate will be 19% whereas it used to be 32.5%. 

Transitioning onto permanent residency

Once you’ve decided you’d like to make Australia your permanent base, there are various options open to you. Many move on from these working visas to student visas . This gives you the right to stay in Australia for the entire duration of your course and you may be able to incorporate your partner and they could be allowed to work.  

Work sponsored visas

If you are aged over 30 and looking to work, a Temporary Work visa (457) is an option. You will need to find an employer willing to sponsor you through the 457-visa programme which will mean that you could stay in this country for another four years, but you may only work for the sponsoring employee, and your skills must be in demand.

Employer Nomination Scheme

Another popular option is the Employer Nomination Scheme which enables employers to sponsor highly skilled workers to fill gaps in their business. Employers may recruit skilled workers but you should be qualified and have a broad skillset to bring to your role and it must be on the Consolidated Skilled Occupation List.

Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme

The Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (RSMS) enables employers in regional and low-population growth areas of Australia to sponsor highly skilled workers.  Ideally, you should have at least a diploma or trade qualification to be eligible.

General Skilled visas

The General Skilled Migration programme leads to permanent residency and you may come independently or choose to be sponsored by a state or territory.  This option is open to people over 30 looking to secure work in Australia and is a common pathway.

To qualify for skilled migration to Australia, your skills must be in demand and you will need to check on the Skilled Occupation List.  As well as applying independently, you can also be sponsored by a state or territory.

Partner visas

Australian citizens and permanent residents may sponsor you to live permanently in this country. However, it is necessary to be married or to have lived in a de facto relationship for at least 2 months. 

Business visas

There are a variety of Australian Business visas and some require that you establish one yourself or take over a business, and you will be required to show that you have the necessary funds to do this as well as the relevant skills and expertise.

We frequently come across working holiday visa holders who would like to continue staying in Australia, but simply do not know how to achieve that outcome. A simple phone discussion with one of our Visa Solutions Australia team members may unlock options which you didn’t know were available to you. We recommend that you start the conversation early in your first working holiday visa so that you can keep an eye out for any opportunities from potential sponsors in Australia.

If you are over 30 and want to work in this country.  Why not give us a call today?

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It’s time to start planning the journey of a lifetime.

It might seem daunting, but planning a working holiday to Australia is just the beginning of an incredible adventure. Here’s how to get started planning your ultimate gap year.

How do I begin planning a working holiday or gap year?

Ocean Rafting, Whitsunday Islands, Queensland © Ocean Rafting

Planning a gap year can seem overwhelming, but take just a few steps and you’ll start to see your plans come together.

The first step to take is to apply for your working holiday visa. A valid visa is required to enter and remain in Australia. Citizens of Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Spain and the United States should apply for the Work and Holiday Visa  (subclass 462). Citizens of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Hong Kong, Japan, Korea and the United Kingdom should apply for the Working Holiday Visa (subclass 417). Check the Department of Home Affairs website for the full list of eligible countries.

After you’ve applied for the appropriate visa, do a bit of research on Australia’s distinct cities and regions. You might be drawn to the bustling city life in Melbourne  or Sydney , or want to explore the Great Barrier Reef in Queensland . Western Australia offers a laid back coastal lifestyle, while the Northern Territory is known for its natural beauty and deep connection with Aboriginal culture. Head to Tasmania  for stunning scenery and beautiful food, or explore Australia’s capital in Canberra .

Becoming familiar with all that Australia offers will help you decide where you’d like to begin your journey.

How do I apply for a working holiday visa?

Barrington Tops, New South Wales © Nicola Easterby

It may seem daunting to apply for a working holiday visa, but the process is actually quite simple. First, you’ll need to gather coloured copies of specific documents, including a birth certificate, current passport and bank statement showing you have sufficient funds (usually AUD $5,000).

Next, you’ll complete your application with accurate information and attach any documents required. If you’re applying for a Working Holiday Visa (subclass 417), you are able to apply online . If you’re applying for a Work and Holiday Visa (subclass 462), you’ll need to check whether you’re eligible to apply online , or whether you should submit your application on paper.

After you’ve applied, the Australian Government will notify you if they need any further information, or if you’re required to complete any police or health checks.

Follow the steps on the Home Affairs Website to complete each part of the application process.

What do I do after I apply for my working holiday visa?

Spit to Manly walk, Sydney, New South Wales © Tourism Australia

Processing time for the working holiday visa can vary from just a few days up to about 70 days. Don’t forget to check your ImmiAccount  and your provided email address regularly in case the Australian Government requests any additional information or documentation.

The most important thing is to wait until you’ve been granted the visa in writing before booking your flight to Australia. After your visa has been granted, you’ll have 12 months to enter Australia, at which time your permitted 12 months will begin, so it’s best to be sure you’ve been accepted before planning your trip.

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5 easy ways to travel and work in Australia

Australia’s stunning landscapes, vibrant cities, and unique wildlife make it a dream destination for travellers. Once the holiday is over, you’re back in your own country.

But what if you could travel and work in Australia — and essentially have the best of both worlds?

The concept of working and travelling in Australia, often called a “working holiday,” has gained immense popularity among young explorers and career enthusiasts.

With an Australian working holiday visa, you’ll be able to live like a local, learn English and have the time of your life in a sun-kissed, far-away land Down Under.

Nothing would be better than an indefinite road trip around Australia and not having to work.

Sadly, the cost of travel in Australia and the size of the country means it’s not a reality for most people — something Nomadic Matt, the New York Times best-selling author, would agree with.

“I grossly underestimated how much I needed. It cost me double what I thought because of a strong Australian dollar and poor planning,” he writes in his blog .

“On my most recent trip, I spent US$3,400 in 33 days. It includes my day-to-day expenses, flights, transport, tours, and anything I bought. Averaging roughlyUS $100 a day, it would have been a lot more had I not been able to stay with friends and get discounted tours.”

Eating out can cost a hefty penny, where a cup of coffee can cost five Australian dollars, and a lunchtime meal can easily be over AU$20.

With such high costs, it makes even more sense to travel and work in Australia.

What’s more, Australia has one of the highest minimum wages in the world, currently at .

Even with the relatively high cost of living, this should be enough to break even if you’re considering living it up in Sydney, Melbourne, Perth or any of Australia’s other big cities.

With a working holiday visa in Australia, you can work as a bartender, among other jobs. Source: AFP

Pro tips for working in Australia

The first thing you need to know is that you need to secure your work visa — but not your employment — in advance. This means you need to coordinate your application for an Australian working holiday visa before landing there.

If you’re under 30 — or 35 in some cases — and hold a passport from an eligible country, you need to apply for the First Work and Holiday visa . This visa allows you to have an extended holiday in Australia as well as to work here to help fund your trip.

The visa fee is AU$635 ; if granted, you can stay for a year and do any work you want. 

Australia’s working holiday visa has made it an attractive destination for long-term travellers for years. This visa gives you the freedom to work in most sectors or jobs. Employers are used to taking on backpackers for work in hospitality, retail, tourism, construction, farming and more.

Take 22-year-old Japanese university student Yushin Tanaka, for example. Tanaka took a year off from university and flew to Australia on a working holiday visa. He works as a server at an Italian restaurant four days a week.

“I’m grateful that I can cover initial expenses with the money I earn from working,” he said. “I want to make use of what I learn here and of my English skills after returning to Japan.”

The best part? You can work anywhere in Australia as your visa isn’t attached to employment for a single organisation or company.

Whether you’re a recent graduate looking for a gap year adventure, a professional seeking international experience, or simply an adventurer at heart, here are five easy ways that can land you a job while you travel in Australia.

Working holiday visa programmes have long attracted the wanderlusters seeking to travel and work in Austrlaia. Source: AFP

1. Join a working holiday support programme

One effective way to secure a job on your Australian working holiday is to use a Working Holiday Support Programme. 

These work programmes can assist international travellers in finding employment and settling into Australian life seamlessly.

Among the providers are The Global Work & Travel Co ., Work N Holiday and Alliance Abroad , which provide guaranteed work opportunities for working holidaymakers throughout the duration of their stay. 

These programmes often include airport pick-up, an induction to help you get established, support in finding housing and social activities.

If you want to travel and work in Australia, start by knowing the visas you need to apply for. Source: AFP

2. Conduct an online job search

Several powerful tools – online and otherwise – can help you secure a job on your working holiday. 

You can check out job search websites in Australia designed for backpackers or use popular platforms like Seek and Indeed . 

When using these websites, focus on looking for short-term or contract jobs, as they are more likely to hire working holiday visa holders.

Apart from that, keep an eye out on Facebook’s Job Search tool, join industry groups, or check LinkedIn for positions; social media can be a fantastic tool for finding work with up-to-date listings.

Wait, there’s more. With the right skills and a good WiFi connection, many jobs can be done from anywhere. 

So, if you’re a freelancer in your home country, why not use your skills to work and travel around Australia? Some of the top freelancing sites include Fiverr , Upwork , and Freelancer.com . 

Meeting potential employers in person can be a great way to secure jobs, especially in hospitality. Source: AFP

3. Meet potential employers face to face

If you prefer to start looking for a job after arriving in Australia, meeting employers in person can be an excellent way to find work, especially in bars and restaurants. 

You can walk around and visit these places to check if they need bartenders or servers. 

Just remember that if you are serving alcohol, you’ll need to complete Responsible Service of Alcohol (RSA) training and get an RSA Certificate, as it’s a requirement in Australia.

It might seem like a slower way to find a job, especially in a world where we’re used to finding everything online. However, this way, you can explore a new city, connect with locals, and start conversations with potential employers.

Make sure you have a few CVs at the ready. 

Want to travel and work in Australia? Try asking temp agencies — they can link you to cafes and restaurants needing help. Source: AFP

4. Enlist a temp/recruitment agency

If you need help with your job search, a temp/recruitment agency can be a helpful place to turn. They can help you find jobs that match your skills, apply for positions you like, and get hired. 

Here, you can find temporary jobs lasting anywhere from just one day for emergency cover to as long as three to six months, such as maternity leave replacements.

Temp agencies are typically used to fill these positions, especially in city areas, quickly.

Since these roles are often more corporate and you’re stepping in temporarily, you can expect to earn higher than the minimum wage.

Some agencies, like The Kingsmen , specialise in industries like hospitality and construction, which are great for people who love to travel or are on working holidays.

Networking with fellow travellers can lead to some of the best job opportunities during your working holiday in Australia. Source: AFP

5. Find work as you travel

One of the greatest perks of a working holiday is the freedom it offers. 

If you’re adventurous and eager to explore different parts of Australia, you can find work as you travel. Job opportunities can pop up unexpectedly, so listen for any leads in your hostel and watch for job ads.

If someone in your dorm has recently completed farm work, they might have useful farm work contacts to share. Strike up conversations, express your interest, and see where it leads – you never know what opportunities may come your way.

The Australian government has put together a Harvest Guide for travellers interested in assisting with picking, harvesting, and gathering produce in the country’s charming rural farming towns. 

It’s an excellent resource for those looking to experience the beauty of Australia’s countryside while working.

You can even check if your hostel has any job openings. Hostels often serve as great hubs for backpackers, and they may have various flexible job options available, including part-time or full-time roles.

Take “ Wake Up! Hostels ” as an example. They’re constantly searching for enthusiastic individuals to join their team.

You could find roles in reception, housekeeping, maintenance, or even become a tour guide, leading social activities like city and beach walks and market tours.

One of the most effective ways to travel and work in Australia is to use a temp agency. Source: AFP

Tips for a successful work and travel in Australia experience

A successful work and travel experience in Australia requires careful planning.

Here are some tips to make the most of your adventure:

• Research: Thoroughly research Australia’s visa requirements, job prospects, and cultural aspects.
• Budgeting: Create a realistic budget to manage your finances throughout your stay .
• Safety: Prioritise safety and be aware of local guidelines and emergency contact information.

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Working holiday visas for the over 30s – age is just a number!

If you, like me, have said ‘sayonara’ to your 20s, you’ve probably noticed that all the best working holiday visas are for 18-30 year olds. But why should age be a barrier? I’ve got all the best alternatives, so you can still experience a working holiday visa over 30!

A working holiday is the perfect style of relaxed travel, where you stay long term and fund your trip through short term jobs. They’re all geared towards young people, ex students who can pick up a short term gig in a bar or as a waitress and then hit the road. Shame.

The internet is absolutely brimming with posts from people who’ve looked at the odd Wikipedia page and written a blurb about where you can go, but how about those who have really done it, lived it and got the T-shirt? That’s what I’ll be serving up!

If you’re feeling an Aussie adventure, don’t miss my dedicated post on the types of Australian visas for over 30s .

And if you’re a Brit looking for work abroad programmes , I also have you covered.

For everyone else, let’s dig in!

Visas for over 30s

Are you skimming Google thinking ‘ How can I work and travel abroad over the age of 30 ‘?

Even if you can’t get a working holiday visa right now, there are definitely ways to get your long term travel fix and see the world.

Working holiday visas over 30

Few seem to know about it, but the age limit for an Australian working holiday visa up to the age of 35 if you’re from Canada, and a selection of European countries (not including the UK, but including Ireland). Our politicians really need to get working on that!

Are you American? BUNAC offers a programme for those up to 35 to live and work in New Zealand, too!

Browse and apply for Australia or New Zealand .

Work exchange

If you’re anything like me, you don’t work abroad to become overly wealthy, you’re just looking to make enough dough to afford your travel addiction.

Working in exchange for accommodation and food is the perfect solution. Check the rules of the country you’re interested in, but this type of arrangement often fits within a tourist visa – one of the easiest ones to get.

A typical setup would be about five hours’ work per day, with plenty of free time too. Most roles are either out of doors on a farm, working with animals, or working with children. But there are unique options too!

So, what is it really like on a work exchange over 30?

I’ve had several great work exchange experiences. In Australia, I wrote web content for an entrepreneur in the suburbs. In Iceland, I was a nanny for a young boy in an isolated town. And, I’ve done a few more childcare roles too. I really enjoyed it and found I was able to save a little money, eat very well and get to know the locals. For accommodation, be clear on what living situation will make you happy (with the host or without? with pets? smoking or non smoking?) and don’t compromise. Don’t take money from your host (it would complicate your visa situation) but do agree a fair number of working hours and Skype your host in advance to make sure you’re a good fit. Ask about perks, such as using a car or bike or possible travel opportunities with your host.

Read more about my work exchange experience .

Browse work exchange oppotunities at HelpX.net , Workaway.info and Helpstay.com .

Teaching abroad

There’s huge interest in teaching English online, and it’s a career that comes with a visa (at any age) and plenty of travel.

Downside, in some (not all!) countries you will need to be a native English speaker or have a bachelor’s degree. Conditions, benefits and salary also vary wildly by location – as you’d imagine. The best place to network with other teachers and get them to spill the tea is Dave’s ESL Cafe .

This isn’t the only type of teaching you can do, however, with positions also open to those who work with special needs and to work as a cultural ambassador, for example in Japan’s JET programme .

So what is it really like teaching abroad?

I taught English in rural Peru at the start of my travel career, and it was such an eye opener! I was hired directly by an international college, so there were no fees to pay except my own air fare and insurance. The salary was excellent for where I was living, but not enough to save for back home. Still, this isn’t the case in many other types of teaching jobs. A homestay with a local family with the perfect way to relax and fit into the culture, while also brushing up a few language skills. Holidays were generous and so it was always easy to hop to other countries or see more of Peru.

If you’re a committed outdoorsy type, a network of roles of organic farms could be your ticket to long term travel abroad at any age.  WWOOFing stands for Willing Workers On Organic Farms.

So what is it really like in a WWOOFING role at any age?

Mael and Simona explain their experience as willing workers in Denmark and Iceland:

The great thing about the programme is that you can search in advance online for a position that interests you. I tried several places before finding mine, but I think it took me no more than one week on Workaway.info . For my role in Denmark I had a bedroom and I was working 4 or 5 hours a day, taking care of horses, cleaning the stables, cutting trees and getting wood for the fireplace, taking care of the garden and some construction work. I really enjoyed working outside and not having to work too much. In exchange I was allowed to use the family car to travel around and I was quite included in family life. I stayed there for 3 or 4 months. For Iceland, Simona had a direct contact so we went to work in a scout camp/ camping for one month. We were working 8 hours a day, either cleaning, working in the kitchen or helping with activities (archery, climbing, kayaking, hiking). It was with a small team of volunteers and we were in a shared bedroom with 4 others. I liked the dynamic and friendly atmosphere. In exchange for our work, we had 10 days holiday and were given a tent, camping gear and food. I would say that you should be careful choosing your position as you don’t want to be seen as free labour. Keep in mind that your work and time is valuable, but remember as well that the work you will be doing is actually part of the experience you should be keen to discover another culture!

Pet / house sitting

People across the world have homes that need not sit empty and pets that need a spot of looking after while they’re away. This for you means living rent free!

It’s true that this type of work relies heavily on reputation, so you need to put in the time of getting verified, getting a degree of trust on the platform and connecting with potential hosts.

A great places to start your journey is trustedhousesitters.com

Working in a hostel

If getting in with the backpacker community, and extending your funds to keep travelling sounds good – this could be the way forward. Of course, it’s not the kind of job that would usually get you a visa, but if you already have visa rights (for example, you’re going from one EU country to another) and want a flexible work and travel arrangement, this is perfect.

Yvonne explains all about her time as a hostel worker at the Dreamtime Travellers Rest hostel in Cairns, Australia:

I got the job by searching on Gumtree (a free marketplace in Australia) and then sent a short CV with my skills. I needed a place to stay, so I booked in as a guest first, to check out the place. A few days later I had an interview and the next day a working trial, which obviously went well I traded a few working hours per week for accommodation, to save money. In my case it was 2 hours of work per day, five days per week. There were two staff sleeping quarters with space for two backpackers each. A few weeks later I upgraded to a paid job as head housekeeper with a few more hours and different duties. The staff quarters for housekeeping were much bigger. You could volunteer at the weekly BBQ for a free meal, too. Most of the work was cleaning the bathroom, dorms and kitchen. You vacuum or mop. You split the duties with two other backpackers. I had a few late shifts at the reception and early drop offs for the guests too, taking them to the harbour for boat trips. When the hostel was booked out it was a tough job. But there was no need to pay for a gym membership! Still I had a great time and we became a really good dream team. Tips for others would be: 1. Don’t be picky, you have to deal with dirty bathrooms and dorms. 2. Check out how many hours you have to work for your accommodation and what kind of duties you have to do up front. 3. Ask the backpackers who are working there when they are leaving so you know if a position will be available soon. 4. Usually owners want you to stay for a longer period of time (mostly 2 or 3 months). 5. Search for a second job to gain some extra (travel) money.

Couchsurfing

Think of this not as a free bed for the night, but as a global network of travellers all giving and receiving accommodation with friendship and local support. Yep, it’s pretty cool. And there’s no reason you can’t surf your way through plenty of fabulous destinations.

Establish your profile on the platform and start building yourself a great reputation – put up photos and a link to your website so that people can see who you really are. No one wants a stranger in their home!

Generally, reviews on the site are pretty essential as proof that you’re not, say, a murderer. You’ll get a chance to review anyone you stay with and they’ll review you too. Before that happens, you can go along to free Couchsurfing local hang outs, have a coffee with the other couchsurfers and pick up a few reviews that way.

When you’re ready, you can pen a quick individual  request to each of the locals in the area you’re going to and ask if they have a spot for you on a particular date.

Get started on your journey at Couchsurfing.com .

Cruise ship work

The enormous size of cruise ships makes them work hubs and there are so many jobs on board! You might be the ship’s doctor, hair dresser, chef, massage therapist – the list is kinda endless.

And if you don’t have any of those specific skills, there are so many other roles for waiters, hospitality staff, boat crews and outdoor guides or instructors.

And the perks? A life of travel – with regular stops at different ports. You can work year round too, with many cruise workers swapping locations during the year – sailing Antarctica in the northern hemisphere’s winter, for example, and the Arctic in the summer.

If you get the job, the visa will be supplied with it and these jobs aren’t age restricted.

Extending your Schengen visa

A popular way to have the living abroad experience in Europe is to work your way between the Schengen zone in Europe (a network of countries with open borders) and those which are outside of the Schengen zone – like the UK, Andorra, Croatia, Bulgaria and more.

Essentially by hopping into and out of the zone, and never staying more than 90 days out of every 180 days inside the Schengen – it’s possible to stick around much longer.

It’s important to say that you won’t be able to work in the zone, but if you’ve saved enough for a 3-6 month period backpacking around Europe, this is the way to do it!

Erin explains her experience in Slovakia:

I have been lucky enough to spend the past winter volunteering in Slovakia at a  ski resort . As Slovakia is part of the Schengen, I was only allowed to stay a maximum of  90 days out of any 180 days . Being an Australian, I didn’t need to pre-arrange any visas, I just arrived. I had pre-arranged this volunteer programme through the online platform Workaway. After a few emails back and forth I was accepted into the Workaway programme that was based in Jasna Ski Resort, Slovakia.

Read all about how to maximise your time in the Schengen .

Gaining citizenship through your ancestry – the perfect way to take a working holiday visa over 30

This is bottom of the list because it’s not a route that absolutely everyone can take. But you’d be surprised how many can!

Ireland has recently seen record numbers of people applying for citizenship in the wake of Brexit, and it’s all down to the fact citizenship can be claimed based on an Irish grandparent, even if you have lived all your life abroad. If you have a connection to Northern Ireland, you’re in luck as both a UK and Irish passport may be possible.

And it’s certainly not the only country where this is possible! Certainly worth dusting off the old family tree to find out.

So what is it really like applying for citizenship based on your family history?

Read the full account of applying for a Dutch passport based on a family connection, despite not living in the Netherlands or speaking the language.

So there it is, the good, the bad and the ugly of all the working holiday visas over 30 that you could get! Any of them on your list?

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4 thoughts on “Working holiday visas for the over 30s – age is just a number!”

Smart work! I’ve always wanted to do a WHV but time got away from me. I’m too old for the standard ones, even though you can now get working holiday visas over 30 (up to 35 for Canadians I thought?). A cruise ship job’d be favourite.

I had my own WOOFFING experience a few years ago. It was in South East Asia and gave me a taste for living abroad. Can you do that more than once?

Thank you very much for your insightful articles for living and working abroad.

Please let me know if you have any advise for a 39 year old from South Africa on working Visas or working holiday visas or job exchanges? I have a Bachelor’s degree and a TEFL certificate (have unfortunately never taught English though).

I am 38 this year and it is impossible to get a working holiday visa. How did you do it travelling 10 countries? Every country allows only 3 months stay duration isnt?

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Working Holiday Visas for Australian Citizens Over 30

Matt graham.

• 1 February 2024
• Preparing to Move Overseas

Most countries only offer working holiday visas to eligible people aged between 18 and 30 years old (inclusive). But if you’re an Australian citizen aged over 30, there are a still a few countries where you can get working holiday visas. These allow you to live, work and travel in another country for at least a year!

Eight of the 45 countries offering working holiday visas to Australians have an age limit above 30.

Portugal currently offers working holiday visas to Australians aged 18-31 years old. Canada , France , Ireland , Italy , Denmark and the UK welcome backpackers aged 18-35. And the USA does not have an age limit – although you would need to be a university or TAFE student (or a recent graduate) to apply for the USA.

The usual rules still apply. For example, you wouldn’t be eligible for most working holiday visas if you have dependent children. But you don’t necessarily have to miss out just because of your age. If you meet all the other criteria, there are several working holiday visa options for 31-35 year-old Australians!

You’ll find more information below about working holiday visas for Australian citizens over 30 in each eligible country…

Working holiday visas for Canada

Working holiday visas for ireland, working holiday visas for france, youth mobility scheme visas in the uk, working holiday visas for denmark, working holiday visas for italy, working holiday visas for portugal, the usa summer work travel pilot program, move visa-free to switzerland or new zealand, digital nomad visas are another alternative for over-30s.

The International Experience Canada (IEC) program is open to Australians (and people from many other countries) aged 18-35 years old who don’t have a criminal record and will not be accompanied in Canada by dependent children.

The main requirements to become an IEC candidate are:

• Aged between 18-35 years old (inclusive) at the time of application
• Have a valid passport which won’t expire during your stay in Canada
• Have at least CAD$2,500 (approx. AUD2,550) to cover your initial expenses in Canada
• Have health insurance to cover the duration of your stay
• Have a return plane ticket to Canada or enough money to buy one

Another great thing about Canada’s working holiday program is that visas are valid for two years.

Read more: Canada’s Working Holiday Program for Australians

Ireland is another country offering working holiday visas to Australian citizens aged 18-35 years old (inclusive, at the time of application).

The Irish working holiday visa is valid for 12 months and is relatively easy to apply for. The only other visa condition is that you would need at least AUD5,000 in savings, or AUD2,500 if you have already booked a return flight from Australia to Ireland.

Read more: Ireland’s Working Holiday Visa for Australians

France’s working holiday visa is also open to 18-35 year-old Australian citizens. Valid for up to 12 months, the other main conditions are that you’d need proof of savings and a return flight booked from Australia to France. But as with Canada, this visa is not available if you have dependent children.

Read more: France’s Working Holiday Visa for Australians

On 31 January 2024, the UK increased the age limit for Australians to apply for a Youth Mobility Scheme (working holiday) visa from 30 to 35. The main eligibility criteria for this visa is that you must have at least £2,530 (approx. AUD4,900) in savings. You also can’t have any dependent children.

This visa is valid for an initial period of 2 years, with the option to extend for a third year.

Read more: The UK Youth Mobility Scheme Visa for Australians

Australians with a parent or grandparent born in the UK may also be eligible to apply for a UK Ancestry Visa . This does not have an upper age limit.

Since October 2022 , Denmark offers working holiday visas to Australian citizens aged 18-35 (previously 18-30).

This is a relatively simple visa to apply for, with the main requirements being that you have sufficient savings and a booked flight home (or enough money to buy one). The visa is not available if you’re travelling to Denmark with dependent children.

Read more: Denmark’s Working Holiday Visa for Australians

Since last year, Italy also offers working holiday visas to Australians aged 18-35 (previously 30).

Read more: Italy’s Working Holiday Visa for Australians

For some reason, Portugal advertises working holiday visas as being available to Australians aged 18-31 years old, inclusive. This gives Australians an extra year to apply for a Portuguese working holiday visa, compared to most other countries.

The Portuguese Work and Holiday visa has a few more eligibility conditions than Ireland, Denmark, the UK, France or Canada. These include:

• Hold tertiary qualification/s or have successfully completed at least two years of university study
• Speak at least a functional level of Portuguese
• Have sufficient savings to travel to/from Portugal and support yourself initially
• Hold travel & health insurance to cover your entire stay

Again, you would not be eligible if you have a criminal record or dependent children.

Read more: Portugal’s Working Holiday Visa for Australians

In lieu of traditional working holiday visas, the United States offers a “Summer Work Travel Pilot Program” under its J-1 visa category. This allows full-time Australian students to live, work and travel in the USA for up to 12 months.

This program does not have a prescribed age limit. However, one of the requirements is that you need to be currently enrolled as a full-time university or TAFE student in Australia – or have recently graduated during the past year.

Read more: The USA’s Working Holiday Program for Australians

While Switzerland and New Zealand do not offer formal working holiday visas to Australian citizens, both nations allow Aussies to live and work in their respective countries, without requiring a visa and with no age limit.

There are a few conditions. For example, Australians moving to Switzerland need to have enough savings to support themselves and still need to apply for a residency and/or work permit from the local canton before arriving.

Most Australians can travel to, live and work in New Zealand without restrictions under the Trans-Tasman Travel Arrangement.

Read more: Australians Can Now Move to Switzerland Without a Visa or How to Move from Australia to New Zealand

If you’re over 30 years old and would like to live and work in another country for a year, an alternative could be to apply for a digital nomad visa .

Digital nomad visas have become increasingly more common since 2020. They’re designed for people working remotely who have a reliable income stream from an overseas source.

With this type of visa, you probably won’t be allowed to work for a local employer in the country where you are living. But you will be allowed to stay and live in your chosen destination for up to a year. You generally won’t have to pay local taxes on the income you’re earning from overseas, but this varies by country and isn’t always necessarily the case.

The list of countries offering digital nomad visas is quite different to the list of countries offering working holiday visas to Australians . But there is a little bit of overlap. For example, Estonia, Portugal, Norway and the Czech Republic offer both types of visas to Australian citizens.

If you work remotely , a digital nomad visa also opens up the possibility to live in countries including Mexico, Georgia, Mauritius, the UAE and many Caribbean nations which don’t have reciprocal working holiday visa arrangements with Australia!

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Over 30? Your Work and Travel Options

Over 30? Your Work and Travel Options Updated: July 2021 52 Pages

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Did you choose your career or romance in your 20’s and now find yourself in your 30’s with the work and travel bug? But you don’t know what is out there for you? Then this guide is for you.

Over 30?  Your Work and Travel Options will provide information on working holiday options for you when you are over 30. Even though your options are reduced they are not diminished. So what is out there? How about:

• Crew aboard a cruise liner or yacht.
• Teach English.
• Volunteer on a Kibbutz in Israel.
• WWOOF your way around the world.
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Too Old for a Working Holiday Visa? Travel Opportunities For All Ages

Updated for 2019.

I recently wrote a guide to all the countries in the world that offer working holiday visas for Canadians , which has since become our most popular post of all time.

These visas allow you to live in the country for up to a year (sometimes two) and work in any type of job you choose. You can immerse yourself in another culture and earn money while you explore. They are the ultimate long term travel opportunities.

However, there is only one problem with working holiday visas – they have an age limit.

Most working holiday visas are not available if you are over 30 or 35. They are designed for young people who want to simply work in odd jobs such as bartending, hotel cleaning, fruit picking, retail or other short term entry level positions to simply fund their travels.

But why should young people have all the fun?

When I published that post, many people commented with:  “I’m over the age of 35, but I want to go work abroad and travel for a while. Are there any options available for me?” It made me realise that there are many people who want to travel and see the world, but don’t fit into the youth working holiday age bracket.

But here’s the good news:

Although you are too old for a working holiday visa, this doesn’t mean that there aren’t any long term travel opportunities available to you. On the contrary, if you are eager to see the world there are so many ways to make it happen, no matter what your age .

I personally believe that wanderlust isn’t age-specific and that any age is a good age to trave l. I hope to make travelling a part of my life at any age and never stop exploring . 18-30 year olds are not the only ones who can have a Gap Year. Anyone can pick up and travel for a month, 6 months, a year or more at any time in their life, if that is what feels right for them .

So with that in mind, here is a massive list of travel/work/volunteer abroad options available to all ages. These are not all working abroad programs, but they are all ways to travel for as long as possible for as cheaply as possible . I will offer an overview of each program and supply you with some helpful links, so that you can do more research into the opportunity you are interested in. Of course, if you have any questions about travel and working abroad, feel free to ask me in the comments.

Without further ado, here’s the list:

Long Term Travel Opportunities For Any Age

Would you be willing to get your hands dirty on a farm, if it meant that you got free accommodation, food and a chance to see your chosen destination from a perspective that not many tourists get to experience? WWOOF stands for Willing Workers On Organic Farms (or World Wide Opportunities on Organic Farms) and it is program where you can volunteer on a farm in exchange for your room and board.

You will usually be expected to work around 4-6 hours per day, but the arrangement and the particular tasks will depend on the specific arrangement you have made with your host family. You’ll live in their home and eat meals with them, offering a great opportunity to find out what daily life is like in your destination. Unless you go on trips in to the city, buy souvenirs or have other expenses, a WWOOFing adventure should cost you nothing except for your flight, making a great option for long term travel on a small budget.

There are over 100 countries to choose from in the program, from New Zealand to Argentina to France and Scotland. Providing you are fit and well enough to work for 4-6 hours per day – there is no upper age limit for WWOOFing. Many farmers welcome the maturity older WWOOFers bring, especially if you have some farming experience.

Helpful Links:

The WWOOF International Website

Top 10 Tips for WWOOFing

How to Travel and Work Around the World with WWOOF

Teaching English

English is becoming the global language. It gives people around the world a huge advantage when it comes to career and business opportunities. There is a huge demand for English teachers in many countries all around the globe.

Unlike a Working Holiday Visa, Teaching English is a working abroad opportunity that allows you to earn money while living abroad at any age.  The wage of an English teacher will vary depending on the school you work for and the country you are in. However, it will always be enough to live on in your country of choosing.

Some English teaching positions simply require a Bachelor’s degree, while others will request TEFL (Teaching English as a Foreign Language) training and certification. Even if you have no teaching experience at all, if you are a native English speaker you will still likely be able to find a job.

There are many English teaching jobs out there, from South America to Europe to Asia. Many people think of teaching English abroad as something that 20-something’s do, but there are no age limits to this job. In fact, your experience, wisdom and maturity can sometimes give you an advantage, especially in some cultures where elders are automatically respected.

10 Best Job Markets for Teaching English Abroad 2019

The Best Countries for Older Travellers to Teach English

Inspiring ESL Teachers Over 30 

Crew on a Boat

Did you know you can find work on a sailboat or yacht and trade your labour for passage across the sea? Working as a crew on a boat can be a great way to travel to gorgeous and remote corners of the world and have the kind of far flung adventures that you have always dreamed about. Imagine feeling the salt spray in your hair and the sun on your face as you cruise into an unknown port.  It’s an amazing way to see the world and gives you a chance to have unforgettable travel experiences.

It helps if you have sailing experience, but it is not absolutely necessary. Many boats are willing to take on inexperienced sailors and train them along the way. The key is to make sure that you have something of value to offer to the voyage, even if it’s just your willingness to work hard and do everything asked of you.

SailOpo.com , which stands for Offshore Passage Opportunities, is a good place to look for jobs. There is a membership fee to look for jobs, but the site is well respected and offers lots of exciting boat trips.

Workaway  is a super cool website which connects volunteers with amazing projects around the world and there are often positions on different types of boats.

The Nautilus Explorer , a diving yacht which is based in Richmond, BC, is hiring for a number of positions.

To get a more in depth concept of the working-on-a-boat lifestyle, read this great article on Transitions Abroad,  Around the World by Sailboat  by Andy Schell.

Help Exchange

On this online network, you can find opportunities to volunteer in exchange for food and accommodation all over the world. It’s similar to WWOOFing, but the jobs are not just on farms. You might be helping to build a school or working at a community centre – or even taking care of children.

This is another way to travel long term on a very small budget, as your biggest expenses are covered. It’s also a great way to interact with the locals and give back to the local community.

Help Exchange 

My HelpX Experience from TheBraveDame.com

HelpX – Pros, Cons and Tips

Working Abroad in the EU

Although you might be out of the age range for a Working Holiday Visa, if you want to work in Europe there are still possibilities. You can work abroad in Europe with an EU Work Permit, which is slightly more complicated to obtain than a working holiday visa, but not impossible. You will need to have a job offer in advance so that your company can sponsor you.

It might be a little bit of a pain to obtain the EU work permit, but if you really want to work in the EU it is worth doing. Remember, the work permit will be bound to the company that hires you and will not be valid for a job elsewhere.

(Of course, if you are from the UK you are super lucky and can go work in Europe whenever you want!*)

*For now… I’ll update this post if this changes due to Brexit.

How to Get an EU Work Permit

How to Find Paying Work While Travelling in Europe

Information About Non-EU-Nationals Working in the EU

House Swapping

This option is where being a little bit older might actually come to your advantage. If you are in your 20s, you might not necessarily own a property, whereas when you are in your 30s, 40s or 50s there is a better chance that you do. This means that you can take advantage of house-swapping.

Imagine this scenario – you are a family or a couple with a house in Vancouver, Canada and you fantasise about taking wine tours in Provence. Across the world in Southern France, there is a French family who have always dreamed of seeing the beautiful green wilds of British Columbia.

You contact each other, via one of the many established house swap website, and you simply switch homes for a while. You both get to save a huge amount of money on accommodation, explore each other’s locations and enjoy the comforts of staying in a home.

Why and How to Do a Home Exchange Vacation

House Swapping Tips from Rick Steves

Home Exchange How To 

House Sitting

Another great way to travel for the long term while saving a lot of money on accommodation is house sitting. Many home owners leave their house for several weeks or months of the year while they go on holiday and they need someone trustworthy and reliable to take care of their plants and pets and to keep their home secure.

There are many house sitting websites that will connect you with home owners. This can be anything from a farmhouse in Scotland to a villa in Arizona to or a home on the beach in Thailand. You will not only be getting free accommodation, but you’ll also enjoy all of the comforts of home during your stay (as well as perhaps the company of a friendly dog or a cat.)

How to Become a House Sitter and Never Pay for Accommodation

The Globetrotter Girls – Guide to House Sitting

How to Find House Sitting Jobs Consistently

Working on a Cruise Ship

Cruise ships are enormous floating cities, with restaurants, casinos, art galleries, beauty salons, spas, children’s play areas, theatres, swimming pools and so much more. These ships need hundreds of employees to keep them running – so why not you?

There are jobs available for lifeguards, chefs, entertainers, childcare providers, hairdressers, sales people and more. The general contract of employment is at least 3-6 months, but there is the possibility to stay on longer.

You’ll get to travel to countless exotic ports, while enjoying free accommodation and food. Plus, you won’t need to worry about visas because the cruise ship company will take care of all paperwork for you.

AllCruiseJobs.com

The Cruise Ship Recruitment Process

The Types of Jobs Available on Cruise Ships

Couch Surfing

If you’re outgoing and looking for a cheap and fun way to travel the world and make new friends, you’ll love Couchsurfing. This hospitality network has over a million members around the world. Travelers connect with local hosts, who offer up their spare beds for free.

Couchsurfing is a wonderful phenomenon, the kind of thing that really restores your faith in humanity. Since no money is exchanged, your host will be welcoming you to their location out of the pure joy of meeting someone new and sharing the place they live. (Of course, good Couchsurfing etiquette says you might want to bring a gift or buy them a meal to thank them for letting you stay.)

Despite the name, you won’t necessarily be sleeping on a couch. Many people have spare rooms or comfortable futons they offer out to their guests. Since you arrange your stay you only have to stay somewhere you feel comfortable. The website also has a very reliable safety system, with a review feature so you can see comments from your host’s previous guests.

If you are looking to travel long term on a small budget, this option allows you to eliminate one of your largest costs – accommodation, while also giving you a great local perspective.

Couchsurfing.org

How to Crush It On Couchsurfing

 Couchsurfing for Grownups  – A guide for older couchsurfers

Volunteer Abroad

Volunteering gives you the chance to have a travel experience with a deeper meaning. You’ll not only get to see your destination, you’ll make an impact on the lives of others. Volunteering abroad can be a truly life-changing experience. It’s a great way to use your skills and experience to benefit a developing community.

There are many travel opportunities available, from building a well in a village in Africa or taking care of children in an orphanage in India. Whatever you do, your contribution will make a difference and the memories that you make there will be unforgettable.

Many volunteer experiences are not free, as they will often charge a fee to cover your room and board while you are staying in the community. However, there are many which have low fees.

How to Volunteer Abroad For Free

Voluntary Services Overseas

Best Volunteer Abroad Programs for Grown Ups

Appalachian Trail Conservancy

The Appalachian Trail is one of the most stunningly beautiful parts of the Eastern USA, running over 2100 miles through 14 different states. Travellers come from all over to hike it, but you could explore this legendary wilderness for free.

The Appalachian Trail Conservancy is looking for volunteers to help with maintaining and building parts of the trail. For your work you will receive food and basic accommodation. They will also provide your tools and safety equipment, all you have to do is show up. What could be a better reason to strap on your hiking boots and go for it?

Appalachian Trail Website

Appalachian Trail Travel Guide

How the Appalachian Trail Works: Volunteering Safely

These are just a few of the many opportunities out there for anyone of any age who wants to travel abroad. If you really want to think outside the box, shift your perspective and have an adventure that changes your life – look into one of these opportunities.

No matter what age you are, you’re never too old to try something new, challenge yourself, see the world and make new friends. Why let the 20-somethings have all the fun?

Let us know about your travel plans in the comments below!

Kelly Dunning

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177 comments.

Thanks for this Kely – good list, and quickly pulled together. Appreciate it!

My pleasure. 🙂 Let me know about your travel plans, if you have any questions I would be happy to help.

Thanks, Kelly

Hi how can I apply this visa for Australia ?

really well thought out article! Do you know any way that I can get a job in the EU? I come every summer for 3-4 months and I do not like to sit around.

It depends on where you are from. Here’s some info on getting an EU work permit: http://matadornetwork.com/notebook/how-to-get-an-eu-work-permit/

Hi, I am Portuguese and would like to get volunteer work in Canada, how does it work? I am 46

You may want to speak to an immigration solicitor to explain the various immigration routes to the EU or UK. I do the same as you, travel over for 2-3 months this time of year but with Covid I might not just yet. It’s best to contact a immigration specialist, I use OTS Solicitors in London, they don’t charge for the first call and generally spend plenty of time to understand your aims and guide you about the steps you need to take. If you do end up going with them they are very reasonable about price. Try them – http://www.otssolicitors.co.uk

I’m from Malaysia.I would like to work abroad with EU.Will there be any opportunity for me?Looking forward for your good reply.

I would liKe to volunteer in education field I can teach biology science and english for lower grades [email protected]

Hi Need a support or help wht ever See I m 48 female Indian. Done diploma in pvt institution as interior designer course of 3 yr. now I want explore live my life , ..,want to do work and earn / settle too.. in usa then wht should do Really want to live I don’t tone dependent on my family so help me out if possible

I’m from India.I would like to work abroad with EU.Will there be any opportunity for me?Looking forward for your good reply. my email address is “[email protected]

Hi Kelly I’m from SA. . .how can I get a visa for London or USA

How do I get to volunteer for the trail?

Many thanks

I would like to host a friend of mine who lives in New Zealand I’m in Canada I have Foster childern and in great need for repair/cook bit can’t pay much is there away to dothat

This is such a great post I completely and wholeheartedly agree that age is in no way a barrier to travelling, taking a gap year, snap year, career break or anything else you want to do! Travel is there for everyone and I have seen a lot more diversity on the backpacker trail over the last decade, with professionals in their 30s and 40s and even gap year grannies joining the more traditional early twenties backpacker crowd!

I do hate the way those working holiday visas have age and time limits though, it seems so ridiculous. So I love the way you have put this list together to let people know that there is more than one way to skin a cat!

I am a Malaysian and I am 45 years old. I totally agree with you that holiday working visa in all countries has age limit. I think this policy underminds the credibility on someone who is still able to explore and enjoy life. Many of my age or more are more settle and would be a responsible traveller who could benefits whichever country we could go to, I would say proudly. Maybe it could be given a thought.

I am 45 year old . Can I apply for working holiday visa .if can I apply for it so please show me requirements of documents.and I am japanes.

I LOVE LOVE LOVE seeing a unique, yet so important, travel-related subject blogged about. Sharing this on Twitter and Facebook because it is such a great guide!

Great list! I knew about a lot of these and plan on utilizing them well when I start traveling full time later this year. I didn’t know about the Appalachian Trail though–hiking that all the way through is a HUGE dream of mine–so I’m going to look into that.

Go for it! The Appalachian Trail is beautiful. I have only hiked sections of it, but hiking the whole thing would be amazing. 🙂

Hi Kelly, Love the article. Do you know of any opportunities in California where this could be applied?

What a fabulous post! I, myself, travel and work wherever I can. It brought me from tour guide & travel agent in Turkey to English & Swim teacher in Uganda. Now I´m in Argentina making my money through advising people about travel in Argentina and cycling around Buenos Aires telling beautiful and not so beautiful stories about Argentina´s past.

It´s wonderful to work in other countries and to have different jobs. I didn´t like everything I have done but at least I know I´ll never do that again =) Oh and I must say that for none of my work abroad experiences I had a work/holiday visa. I just have a holiday visa and leave the country in time to return the next day 😉

Anyway I´m definitely going to check whether I can manage one of the jobs you have listed =) Thanks for sharing!

Thanks Kelly for the post I am 52 years female and would like to work my summer break June and July at a resort abroad. I have an Villa located in Borneo for house swapping. I appreciate your reply.

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Great list. There are definitely opportunities for all ages.

Hi , i am Mohammad Sadéek I am 47 from India .I need tourist come job visa. Thanks.

Times have changed… been trying to get abroad to work for over four years and there are 0 jobs for me at age 53. It is harrowing as I have no work in my own country for that whole period and I am not stupid, but cannot work and cannot earn. So so scary… I have a life to live but nobody will let me!

Very helpful article, Kelly – and thanks for looking out for those of us over that magical age of 35. One more dismal February weekend like this – and I just might start looking for a job.

I hope you don’t mind but I’d also love to share this advice with my readers on my own blog at http://www.johnmeyerbooks.com .

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THANK YOU! I had my kids EARLY (20 and 23) so I didn’t get to travel the world responsability free in my early days. BUT – they will be graduating and moving out of the house when I am relatively young (in approximately 7 years) and I plan on living frugrally and travelling/working abroad as much as possible when they do as I’ll only be 41! Hopefully many of these same opportunities still exist by then and there are even more!

Hey! So glad that you enjoyed the post! That is so exciting that you are going travelling when your kids move out on their own. I hope you have a fantastic adventure.

You could also consider earning a degree or taking university or language courses abroad as well.

No age limit to study internationally which is great!!! I plan on doing this or if I get a graduate school degree here in the US I will definitely study abroad within my degree pursuit

Girl!!! I moved to Japan at 39. With no job. 41 years old is still far too young. Moving to Tokyo in a couple of weeks. SO I had to leave my job again. Going to the big city without a house or a job. And this is years later. I’m 45 now. Also thinking in joining an MA. Never too late. My grandmother taught me that in life in nothing written. She is almost 100 years old. Imagine if you live your live till that age. You’ll still have 60 years to go before passing.

At 36 I participated in the Bunac USA Work Abroad Program In London. I worked at a law firm for 6 months.

I had to take 3 courses at a community college to qualify in “student status” the school year before I left. With Bunac they want you be a a current student.

Now the Bunac program has changed in which you need to find an internship. It can be paid or non paid though and I believe the age requirement is 18 and up now.

“Don’t pull out a map in public; you’ll appear like a tourist!” is an expression I’ve heard before. Don’t draw attention to yourself by carrying a camera, because locals may mistake you They advise people to constantly look and behave like a local, never making any obvious signs of being a tourist. “Don’t pull out a map in public; you’ll appear like a tourist!” is an expression I’ve heard before. Don’t draw attention to yourself by carrying a camera, because locals may mistake you for a tourist. And please, for the love of God, don’t show up looking like a filthy foreigner by wearing trousers that zip off at the ankle. for a tourist. And please, for the love of God, don’t show up looking like a filthy foreigner by wearing trousers that zip off at the ankle.

Aw, this was a very nice post. Taking a few minutes and actual effort to make a good article… but what can I say… I put things off a whole lot and never seem to get nearly anything done.

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Thanks Kelly for this post. I personally waited on my friends to go travelling but that never happened and now I’m 32 and felt like I had no options to go travelling!x

Hello Kelly,

Great post. Do you know programs that people living in Africa can participate in. Most of the information is for people from the West. I am 41 living in Africa and would love to travel the world on a low budget.

Berlin also offers a work visa for freelancers. And I know in Portugal you can get the Schengen visa extended for an additional three months (you just have to stay in Portugal.) 🙂

I just quit my job so these might come useful 😀 I’ve never tried WWOFing but I think I would like it a lot!

Hi I’m starting to plan early for my year travelling starting in January 2017! I’m so pleased that I found this blog as my plan had been to get a working visa so I could work in part-time jobs to fund my stay – I had no idea that there was an age limit on working visas. I will be 47 when I start travelling and I now have some great options to look into. Many thanks 🙂

did u end up traveling?

Thanks Kelly, this is a nice post. I would like a working visa to an European country. Am still under 30 and from Africa. Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks

Thanks Kelly for the post, am really moved by it. I would like a working visa to any European country or US, am from Africa and still under 30. I believe you and hoping to hear from you soon thanks.

hi there thank you for sharing your info. my husband and i would love to work abroad but find it very difficult to get assistance. this morning i was told by an agency that i am too old (i am only 47). my word, i’m still a youngster.

i have spent so many hours and money on line trying to get info and assistance. will try the sites you recommended. there are agencies willing to assist but there charges are between R25 000 and R50 0000 which is horiffic but besides that,can you trust them and it can take up to a year before they can help you find a job. we are from south africa

Hi Marinda. I’m also in South Africa and would love to go travel and explore and like you say, its just impossible for us South Africans as its way to expenisive for us to just hop on a flight or go study! They make it impossible for us to go study overseas as we pay triple the amounts. I love the US and would love to get back and go to Vancouver, but every time I walk into a solid brick wall and nobody in the world want to assist. Soon as you mention South Africa, its like a disease to them, as they aren’t willing to help with a work visa.

I am also from South Africa, 32 years old. I am also trying all avenues to enable me to take a sabbatical for 6 months, but so far no luck.

I thought it would be amazing to travel through Canada, but with the current state of the Rand it would be too expensive. So the alternative is to make money in Canada in order to travel. Unfortunately all websites and programs developed for this purpose is from 18 – 30.

Does anyone know of alternative ways for South Africans specifically?

Same boat as you, any luck?

I am feeling so helpless.Have been struggling for years now to get a visa.the same story about the age. Im 49.please keep me informed of any developments.

Dear friends ,

I am an indian 47 yrs old working in Govt organisation i wish to go to canada as a volunteer through woofing. Pls let me know if it possible and what exactly does it cost. Do they isue visas to 47 yrs person easily or questions alot as experienced with lot of visa officers. Pls drop few words. Thanks in advance

Pse can you help me find out how I can get my son a holiday job in USA, he is going over on holiday and really wants to work whilst he is there so he has some extra spending money, he is hoping to leave in a few weeks Thanks

Hello, I am over 40 American no kids, not married. I recently completed a degree in international relations and want to get a masters in a related field. I want to go abroad for graduate school. I have lived in the UK and attended University in Canada so I have some international expereience.

My question is where do I leave my things (I have enough for a small storage unit). I will need time to complete the degree and I would love to work in Europe after graduation be it a co-op internship, or job.

This could take me 2-3 years total.

Has anyone ever left the country for 3 years and had things in storage the whole time?

If I got a long term job overseas how would you ship it?

To answer this question you have to do a few calculations –

– how much would it cost to keep your items in a storage facility for 3 years? – would this amount be more or less than what it would cost to sell your items and buy new ones when you come back – or buy new items when you get a long term job overseas?

Well I am trying not to buy any more furniture than I really need. I live in a studio apt.

I figure storage would be about $2,500 to $3,000 for the 3 years. It will be worth it when I come back to the US and have things to put in a new place of residence.

I am thinking positive.

I am from canada and this is what I want to do. I want to use Uship.com to traverse the US. Driving a motorhome pulling a trailer. Picking our destinations by where we want to travel. Wanting to stay in the US for 12 months. Do you know of how I would go about this. I have looked on the US immigration website, but I didn’t find any info for what I would like to do. I have also tried calling for the last two days with no luck.

i want to working holiday even for 3 months or 6 months ..can i do it in australia or in Canada even housekeeping in hotels or in fruit picking..if not which country accepts my age for working holiday..

That’s really heartbreak as I am a woman of 47 living in Hong Kong. Just finished raising up the children and want to explore more by myself. But it is no chance for me to enjoy the working holiday as I am not a English native speaker. It is really not fair and I am sure that most women of our age still had a great working enthusiasm comparing with the youngsters.

Hi I am 50 years of age worked in service attended, personal home carer and assistant in nursing. What are the chances of getting part time work as I travel the world.

Hey so I am one year past the age restriction for australia alliance abroad which totally trumped my dreams of experiencing the only country I wanted to go see. Is there any resources or links for employers in australia that do not have this age restriction? Is it possible to get a job out there without having this age restriction?

Hi, i just want to work and stay abroad any advise how?

check your nearest agency they will assist

Hi, please advise n how to start looking for any kind of job abroad ..

Dear Keller I`m looking for any volunteer job abroad, from house sitting to cleaning doesn’t matter,. Please advise on how to apply.. Thanks

Dear Kelly Thank you so much for making it easier for us who wants to work and travel abroad,..

Hi Kelly, I am confusing. If I register as a volunteer under wwoof, I can work with the host with visitor visa,??

40 plus and a registered nurse. Would like to work in New Zealand. The laws on work visas need to be changed to adapt to a global economy.

Im a nurse but i wish to other countries, its my dream. But i am 54 years old already and still wishing hoping to live and work abroad. I prefer not to work as full time worker but just enjoying the beauty and want to experience how it is to be in other country. The reason of not going somewhere is money for applying and travel because here is just enough for family s needs or even lacking. and secondly because of english exam requirement that i did not get the required band score. But then Its my great wish still to see and work other places . I may accept any teaching and caring jobs filing food preparation or even in the farm as long as not too heavy for my capacity. I hope and pray my wish come true. Can you please help me?

It’s still not that simple. I came to Australia on a working holiday visa 3 months ago (I am 28) and my boyfriend (36) came to visit just recently. He had never bothered wanting to come over here long term as he was just happy for holidays. After his visit and our time together we looked into him coming to work and travel here too as neither of us wanted him to go back. Then it became clear it would not be possible. We are both radiographers and that is what I work as here and it is what he would want to do. He is currently a locum in the UK to be able to have control over flexibility for studying for a masters and for long holidays visiting me. He would need to be a locum here too for the same reasons. He also has a house in the UK to pay for and everything that comes with it so would not be able to just come to Australia under the options above. The only option was getting sponsored which would mean long term commitment here (maybe having to remain here after I go back home – if I do), less wage and no flexibility for travel. So, for now, it is back to the countdown until his next visit at christmas! 🙁

Im really interested in some of the options you mention above! Im 32 years old and I’ve been an exchange student in the US!!! I would love to know more about house sitting, all the information you can give me! I love animals, I love to clean and organize so there should not be a problem!

Fantastic, comprehensive post!! I’ve tried quite a few of these but there were a few I hadn’t considered that look great (working on a cruise ship, Appalachian Trail volunteers) – thanks for the great information!

I am a 37 year old single mother of a 7 year old and a 9 year old. I feel like I have not travelled enough and would like to do it and take my children with me. I would be keen to hear about great places to work where it would be affordable on one income with one adult and 2 children, where I could work during the daytime, and where I could enroll my kids in the local school, where some sort of child care after school would be possible, or if I could just work school hours. I would be keen to hear from any single parents who have done this, I hope I am not dreaming and that it is possible. I am considering teaching English in Japan for a year. Any comments or ideas would be welcome.

Great post thank you! What kind of visa did you obtain for WWOOFing in New Zealand? Thanks

Hello… I really don’t know what I read above is all happening. But let me put it this way. If its real, then its really very good to hear more than this. Please accept my wishes and even for future information for those who want to just see the world. Thanks. Now let me request You for the information. I am 59 and want to start travel around beyond India into Europe and other places and see the options to settle in a safe, cheap and best place….I welcome you to my Inbox. ramana

This is such great easy to understand information. I was looking to start planning in 2015 but starting feeling down as work options are so limited once your over 31 in most countries. Your post and all the comments have picked me back up… Thank you thank you!! Anyone looking to start a new adventure mid to end year would love to hear from you. I’m leaving from Australia.

hi Kelly, i find all interesting in all the places and works you have featured of… but i don’t know are the Filipinos qualified for these? for instance Working Abroad in the EU, if its difficult to apply for this, I preferred house sitting, i believed i still can handle this job even I’m 49 years old already. Can you help me what will be the first step in applying for this kind of travel and working visa for my age? thanks to you anyway

I wondered if you could help me please? My partner and I want to travel Australia for a year – I’m from the UK and 27, she’s from the US and is 31 (soon to be 32). Do you have any suggestions as how we can go about it?

Thanks! Samii

Have you looked into the Australian Working Holiday visa? ( http://www.border.gov.au/Trav/Visa-1/417- ) The age limit is 30, so you could apply for it but your partner couldn’t. She would have to go on a visitor visa or perhaps see if she qualifies for another type of working visa. She could also visit Australia for three months on a visitor visa (no working allowed).

Hi i want to work Australia a few month. what can i do madam? i like work !

Hi Kelly Thank you for this, are there specific ones to Canada, specifically Vancouver? I had had the 2 year visa and now over 30 and really want to get back over

You have given me hope as until now I thought it was a lost cause

Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated

Thank you so much for sharing ! I recently volunteered for two weeks in Nepal in two orphanages. It was wonderful and I also raised funds for the orphanages. However those in the IVHQ group were most all in their twenties. I am high energy and loved the younger group , but being in my 40’s wished for some balance. I’m looking this time to do some volunteer work but also explore a bit this time. Open to various destinations. I live in the US. Thanks so very much for any thoughts ! Warmly , Amy

Nice work Kelly, but can you help me Choose a program here, I want to travel and also work and get paid. I’m at Nigerian female, 26yrs of age, a graduate of accounting, my choice countries are Australia, Canada an the US. Especially the first two. Please help me. Hope to hear from you

To emphasis what Tammie said, I am 34 and have spent a lot of time enquiring and orgainising Workaway placements for Canada, only to then find out that you have to be under 30 to apply for the IEC (International Experience Canada) visa which you now need even to volunteer… This is so sad as I was really hoping to go and do this for up to a year, and it feels very unfair. But then, the law is the law I guess.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

For examples, with the less ‘official’ volunteering placements, i.e. with a retired couple in their house for example, does this still count?

Many thanks to anyone – and Kelly – for any help with this.

I m 32 year old and planning to go to Australia to work. I have place to stay. I want to am I eligible to work their, I mean what type of visa I need. I m Canadian citizen.

Hi Kelly, I’m a 51 year old New Zealand citizen. Can you suggest any websites for me to look at so I can get a better idea of what I would need to do so I could work for 3mths and then travel for 3mths in Italy or somewhere close to Italy. With accommodation too if possible. Kind regards.

Hi Belinda…did you find any more info on travelling for over ,50s? I’m a 55 to single kiwi woman and am keen to work and travel around Europe and Spain for a couple of years…. thanks Shelley

Australian Working Holiday Visa rules are about to change. Visa cost goes down. Taxes go down. Age limit goes up to 35yr. Employer limitation changes from max 6 months to 12 months if you work in different locations.

Here are three websites as a reference: https://www.visafirst.com/en/news_australia_working_holiday_visa_id_5828.asp https://www.acacia-au.com/changes-to-benefit-working-holiday-makers.php http://www.australianskilledmigration.com.au/immigration-news/changes-to-working-holiday-visa/

And a government one: http://sjm.ministers.treasury.gov.au/transcript/139-2016/

Goodluck with your applications!! Cheers, Axel

Hi Axel, Thanks for sharing this updated information!

hai kelly, i am 45 y male indian.interested to work in hotels. i have 10 y of experience in working in hotels in small cities. what type of work i may expect in any foreign country.

Hi Kelly I’m hoping you can help on advice I am looking at volounteering in Canada through a site called workaway which you exchange simple work for food and place to sleep. I have been trying to enquire about whether I need work visa however after looking I am having problems because I am 39yrs old and there seems to be a cut off age. Do you know what I need and how I can go about it?

I forgot to mention I am a U.K. Citizen wanting to go to Canada

Hi Kelly I’m a 51year old female, experience as person care assistant , have worked in hospitality and cafes. Wish to work and travel overseas. Can you advise me on where to start and look. As single so need to work along the way.

I am a 30 year old UK citizen thinking about moving to Canada, the only problem is, come February I will be 31. Therefor a Canadian ‘Working Holiday’ visa would no longer be an option for me. Please can you advise if there is anything else I could do to work/live in Canada?

Thanks you.

Thanks a lot for your information. This is very helpful for everyone who would like to travel. I have a quick questions, hope you can help.

I live in NZ and I have got a NZ Passport. I am 35 years old and would like to work in UK or US. I dont have a job offer though, am i still eligible for Work Holiday program to these countries. My wife would like to travel with me too. She is 33 years old. Appreciate your reply.

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Hi, April 19,2017 I am 60 years old female and would like to work my summer break June and July at a resort beach abroad. I appreciate your reply. Thank you shamsi

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I have one question, I am from Hungary, live and work in UK /since 2008/ ,I speak English fluently and I am a Special needs teacher. I would like to teach English abroad,but I am not native English speaker,please let me know if is it still a chance to find a teaching job abroad?

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Hi Kelly, Is it true that if I was born in the UK but have Australian Citizenship that I could work in the UK and Europe if I decided to go back there? any assistance would be great, thanks. Deb

Hi Kelly – Is there some way around the visa thing to travel and do a workaway (help out in exchange for room & board)? I may have missed something in your blog but I’m sure if we are over the youth travel visa age and want to travel and volunteer outside our native country (I’m Canadian and want to go help in Europe) we still need a visa. Did you address this?

Husband and I would like to live and work in Scotland. His Ancestral home. Mine is England. We both have criminal records and He is 58 and I’m 53 What can and cant we do? What do we NEED to do. Thanks Arlene

Hi kelly… i feel inspired on all your write-ups about travelling and excited to travel too around the world, especially in Europe area and want to try working in other country. i am now 45 years old, im interested in housesitting. Do offer that in Philippines?

This is a great read, thanks Kelly, I’m a 42 year old female from South Africa, my kids are grown-up and i would love to travel to London , Australia or Asia, this blog has given me more hope that o can do this, any help would be appreciated.

What about the walk ?

Also I want to move and build a tiny sustainable home. My thoughts were Mexico. Because of past experiences. Can you provide any advice?

Hi this is Muthu 44 yrs young from S.India.Iam helful for for my family and others,can u find m a job in any european countries. Now iam learning French,and completed A1 grade.

Hi this is Muthu from S.India,I’m 44 years young can u find me a job in any European Countries. I’m helpful to both my family and others. Nowadays I’m learning French ,finished my A1 level and doing A2 level

I m Meenakshi India Chennai. Am I able to work with my husband in any suitable work you have told. My age 37 .husband 36.for 1 MTH or 6 MTHS.

Hi Kelly I am interested to visit abroad. But can’t due to financial problems. Can I able to work there and earn and visit the place . If ok how and whom I have to contact

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Hi Kelly I was wondering whether you have any tips on folks who are beyond the travel and work visa age (i.e. I am 46 years old). I have looked at the travelling extension tips you mention above – like HouseSitting, Language Teaching, Boat Crew and so on – however what I would like to do is to work as a skiing teacher (I have international Licenses/Diplomas as Skiing Instructor) and hence the options you mention are not what I look for. Do you have any ideas whether I have any chance at all to work in countries such as Canada / USA / NZ / Japan while beyond the work & travel visa age?

Hi Patrick, Which country are you from?

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I am from India and and I am 42 years of age and have some queries with regards to travel opportunities abroad and have great experience earnings etc during stay.

What all countries offer abroad travel options like…Woofing , English teaching, Boat crew and House Sitting etc.

What is the procedure to apply for the same. What all are the requirements. How much time does it take. Does it require any money / fees etc. Do you / your company provide any help support ?

I would be glad to receive response on my above mentioned queries…

Thanks and regards, Ashish Kant

I am working full time as a tourism information officer and cultural tour guide. However I sing part time and that is m greatest passion. I want to know if there is vacancies for working as an entertainer and hostess?

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We are married couple mix Nationality. I’m from Bali Indonesia and My Husband from Albania . Now We live Albania . We want so much can find job offer and sponsor Us about visa work .We need to find job as couple in same position . Our age is 39 and 40 years old and we don’t want late to work because we love work and want out from Our Country we stay now . Please help Us.

Thank you so much and have nice day and God Bless you all.

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i have been in japan long 13 years. i have experience hi-tech programming certificate from japan. but unluckily i have no work right now. i am suffuring for work. i am now about 48 years older.

Hi Kelly, I almost reach 30 as well I’m a Malaysian. I wish to work abroad for a year but I have financial problem. Is there any tip I can apply job at abroad? Wish to hear from Kelly soon Regard Thank you

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Hi . My name is Kennedy. Turned 50 in June this year. I have numerous years of experience in the Fast moving consumer goods industry. I am looking at doing teaching or working overseas. Can also assist and take care of old people and cooking. Is there any positions I can apply for?

Such a great article! Thank you Kelly! Wish I explored more work & travelling opportinities in my 20s yet it seemed that doing that as a Russian citizen would not be easy because we need visas for almost every country. Now I am in my early 40s and have a Canadian passportive however it is quite expensive to travel from Vancouver, BC to different countries. Hopefully with the help of your links will find some option, choosing between Europe and Argentina or Costa Rica (Latin America) for a trip for a few months. It seemed a bit of a juggle though to deal with my belongings and wish my landlord allowed to sublet my rented apartment.

Thanks for the valuable information i’m 51 and I have 26 years of work experience now shifting to England and my origin from south Wales would I get opportunities in the custom thanks for the information

Hi Kelly. May I check the subscription fee is a one-time payment? If I am into Thailand site, I pay the fee, will I pay again if I am looking at another country site. Because WWOOF listed individual site to enter. Many thanks

My age is 50+which country can I work and what is the procedure

Hi.kelly I am from sri lanka. My age is 52 years. can i applied for a work visa in Belgium i am a technician. doing welding and fabricating

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Hi Kelly, i am exciting when saw your article. I am interested to go working holiday in Australia but the not qualified because of the age. May i know your plans and advise for that? Look forward to your feedback. Thank you!

Hi Kelly, i am exciting when saw your article. I am interested to go working holiday in Australia but not qualified because of the age. May i know your plans and advise for that? Look forward to your feedback. Thank you!

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Great write up, we gave up on couchsurfing a while ago after a couple of unpleasant experiences, which is a shame as the concept is brilliant. Got started with helpx, mostly good experiences, but now we do more house sitting, one useful tool you should add to the article is Housesitsearch.com, great search engine that not many people know yet for some reason.

Hi are there anything similar to working holiday visa for over 35, I am 38!. I was told I still could do it but requires a lot of paper work

This doesn’t really address the visa limitations. If you are younger you qualify for a working visa that lets you work and live in USA and Canada for two years. Other visas only let you stay for a combined total of three months. So even if you have accommodation in exchange for labour, you still have to leave in 12 weeks.

Hello my name is chris Radford. I have a girlfriend in canada I am from Australia. She would like to come over to be with me. She is 39 years of age and she will be staying with me in Australia. How can she get a work visa just until we get married . Be nice to hear back from you thankyou very much

Thanks Kelly . Now i can join my Son on his work holiday visa and do what i always wanted to do – do some volunteer work

I am a 38 year old Canadian man, who is a seasonal worker in British Columbia, during the Summer. I am looking to work abroad for the Winter. Where would the best country’s for me to look for work for 5 months, at my age, be located?

Can you kindly send a link for Canadian wanting to teach English without a bachelor’s degree? I do have an early childhood educator diploma. Everywhere I look they ask for bachelor’s 🙁

Great article, I’ve not long turned 30 and I want a new challenge and to see more of the world. I live in the uk, where would be the best place to start to get a summer camp or job abroad?

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Mam my self Mrs shameem& my husband from India we ar interested in travelling to Canada & work on fram of berry pickers or fruit plucking my age is 54 & my husband age is 65 we ar still working I do all my house hold work myself my goes to office he is a manager cum director in a transport company plz can u help us anyway plz reply I will be very grateful to you. Thanks

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Hi Kelly, your article is inspiring. 39 y.o from Indonesia here. Being someone who is from a third country & above 30ies is hard enough to get working holiday visa coz of the age limit. I’m wondering if anyone similar to my situation wrote you to tell that they got opportunity to work abroad. Regret there’s age limit while I’m sure people who are above the age limit are still healthy & capable to work. Thank you.

Have a friend from Ethiopia in South Africa who is is over 35 but wishes to work abroad in (u.s) .any advise for him?

Hi kell, where do u live and visit history, when u plan out next?

Hi Kelly, Thanks for very amazing information you share! I’m an architect, Citizen of Canada. 51 years old. I need to have income while traveling. I should have income, just having a roof or a host can not be enough for me ( I wish it was!). I still need to pay for my children’s education and some other expenses. I am willing and capable to do almost everything. Does paid job need work permit everywhere? Can I agree with the host to receive money for the job I do for them. my experience and passion may save a lot for them. I may work hard taking care of their home or… is it illegal to receive money from them? even if they are willing to do so? what do you recommend for someone like me? Thanks for your response !

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Hi My name is Seema I’m from India. I would like to work in London, My age 45 years please help Me on that.

Hi. My name is augustina,I am from Nigeria,I am 34years old I will like to work in any of the country using pound steering as their currentcy because I have a domiciliary account I opened using ponds steering , I am a teacher, but I have always have the wish to travel to other countries,I am 34years old already but still wishing and hope to work and live abroad, I prefer for now,not to work as full-time worker but during my school holidays, I just wanted to work earn money, take care of my aged father, my dependant,and my siblings as well, secondly I just wanted to enjoy the beauty , acquire more knowledge on my ,felid of work in other areas of work where I might be employed,I want to experience how it is to work in other countries,the reason for not applying is money and the English exam requirement, but then it is a great wish to still see and work other places .I will accept teaching, caring and other jobs that suits my capacity.i hope and pray God great me my wish, please help me.

Hi Kelly, great article. Thank you for putting this together. I’m 37, a professional in Finance sector and British passport holder. I would like to work in Australia, Bermuda or Canada but finding it quite difficult to find a sponsor. Is there any way of getting a work permit or holiday visa and then arriving there, and applying for jobs? Also with current situation of covid, many countries are not issuing visas and i’m bit concerned on how this will impact my plan. can you please help with some advice – especially for Australia (also open to New Zealand).

Me and my other half are in our 40 but we have 2 small girls 7 and 10 we have work hard over the years until i hurt my on the job but we love going to the uk every year and we love it but we would love to stay longer

Where do you think i should look

I am 48 years old Indian, married for 16years with a daughter of 14years. I would like to volunteer in education field. I can teach Engineering science and English.I have experience being a motivational speaker too I have 25 years of vast leadership management experience with industrial automation MNCs like ABB, SIEMENS, HollySys & Emerson Process I would prrfer work visa for self & family [email protected]

so basically only volunteer opportunities thats not the same at all.. how can you travel around if you cant make anymoney.. makes no sense im not gonne take a train after volentering in a place of on bread and water

You have given very good ideas. I am 50 plus and I don’t know how much I can work now when traveling

Working abroad is not an easy tasks for the people who has a home sickness.But this could be an interesting job for those who love traveling around the wold.

Thanks for sharing! This is an informative post! I also saw that Spain offers a visa for remote workers. Many of us now have jobs that are entirely remote, so it could be an option to consider living in different places while keeping your current job. For some, this might work! It’s also possible to immigrate to some countries. That is a lot of work if your intention is to only stay for a year, but it’s a possibility. There are some great immigration pathways for professionals with work experience in Canada.

Thanks for the comment

Hi Kelly, I had lot of confusions.. till I read this article. Your are my savior.. Thank you.. I wanna explore this whole world.. It’s my dream..

Hi How would I go about getting a visa (working holiday) to enable me to take part in an Internship with a Canadan Company. I’m older than 35 but studying.

This is vijay from India. Like to volunteer while travelling across world. Any help for this opportunity appreciated

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Thanks for posting this, I’ve always felt this was a daunting endeavour and very intimidating thing to do. Looking at all of those working holidays being targeted for under 30 seems like I was too late for the transition. I’m hoping it won’t be for me. Being in Canada for 40 years but not really considering working abroad to be an option. Now I’m itching for that experience just wish there wasn’t so much red tape to make things happen. I will look into all of the options you’ve listed and see where that leads me.

You may want to speak to an immigration solicitor to explain the various immigration routes to the EU or UK. I do the same as you, travel over for 2-3 months this time of year but with Covid, I might not just yet. It’s best to contact an immigration specialist, I use Gulbenkian Andonian Solicitors in London.If you do end up going with them they are very reasonable about price. Try them – https://ww.gublenkian.co.uk

It’s wonderful when your job or a fun hobby permits you to travel. I adore traveling, and I live for it. I’ve been traveling recently, and I’ve been shopping about for the best airfare. I chose flights from visite site , and I was pleasantly surprised by the flight’s caliber. My preference for comfort allowed me to enjoy the flight to its fullest.

I am 53 and in a wretched situation as I am South African. That means I cannot get a work permit to work anywhere in the world. It is illegal. I also have not found any work in my own country for over four years. It is totally soul destroying and exhausting – we all know what that means eventually and it is mind numbing each day to kill so many hours. So I am in a catch22.

I don’t have a degree but have years of teaching experience. I have TEFL and I taught writing and communication to groups for many years. I am also good at proofreading and write well. I trained as a beauty therapist in my youth and ran a successful salon, but now my hands cannot cope with the physicality of the long day and the hard massages required. Very stuck and immensely frustrated.

No idea which way to turn – if anybody has any helpful ideas I am open and willing to listen. Thank you kindly

Awesome post, Thanks for sharing.

Just looked at Woofing website, it says I’d still need a visa…. am I understanding that right? I’m not eligible for a holiday visa as I’m 43 years old, hence why I looked at the recommendation for them.

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The Universities Accord is a first class piece of work and we’re giving it the attention that it deserves. As the prime minister indicated last week, we do acknowledge that students are under pressure and if we can afford to do something to help on that front, that’s obviously something we’ll consider as we finalise the budget.

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Turning to New South Wales, Jim Chalmers has responded to comments from the state treasurer, Daniel Mookhey , that the GST carve-up has stripped more from state revenue than Covid-19.

Chalmers said it would be “easy, but wrong” for any state or territory government to blame the commonwealth government for pressures on their own budget.

I engage respectfully and pretty frequently with treasurer Mookhey and indeed with the treasurers of all the states and territories … Decisions around the allocation of the GST are taken at arm’s length from the government by the commonwealth grants commission and it’s not unusual for a state or a territory … to have a different view about the allocation. It’s also entirely unsurprising that the states and territories would like more money to fund their priorities. I understand that as well.

Chalmers said NSW was “already receiving billions of dollars in extra funding” from the commonwealth around health, hospitals and housing, and the no-worse-off guarantee.

Because we do recognise the pressure on state and territory budgets.[However] … It would be easy, but wrong for any state or any territory to blame the commonwealth government for the pressures on their own budget.

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Chalmers said cost-of-living relief would still form part of the budget, designed in a way to “take the edge off inflation rather than add to it”.

We want our cost-of-living help to be part of the solution to inflation rather than part of the problem, and so that will be a feature as well.

Chalmers fronts media on downgraded growth forecast ahead of federal budget

The treasurer, Jim Chalmers , is speaking to the media from Canberra, providing an economic update ahead of the federal budget.

As we flagged earlier , global financial uncertainty has prompted Treasury to downgrade its growth forecasts for major economies ahead of the budget.

Chalmers told reporters just now:

Because of this international uncertainty, the budget will downgrade forecasts for growth in most of the biggest economies that the Treasury provides a forecast for. There will be a downgrade for China, Japan, and the UK, and there’ll be other changes in the forecasts that we’ll finalise in the next couple of weeks. The budget will have a premium on responsibility and an emphasis on economic security, and what we will see is a budget strategy which will evolve along with our challenges.

12 people police are looking for believed to have come from outside church

New South Wales police said the 12 people they are looking for in relation to last week’s riot came from outside the church, where bishop Mar Mari Emmanuel was stabbed and the incident was broadcast on a livestream.

The initial response from the people inside, they did a great job holding the [alleged] young offender down… The police investigations are based around that fact that obviously thousands of people have come from surrounding suburbs to the location [after seeing the livestream].

The police officer could not say “what a single person’s thoughts might [have] been” but some people came to the church “for the wrong reasons”.

NSW police address media after calling for assistance in locating 12 men

New South Wales police are speaking to the media after it appealed to the public for information on 12 men earlier today, in relation to the riot in Wakeley last Monday.

Police released the images of 12 people they are most wanting to speak with, but said there are up to 50 people they are looking for in relation to the riot. Police believe 2,000 people in total were in attendance.

We know there’s groups of families involved that have gone there to support their parishioner. We’re not looking for those people. But we’re looking to speak to them if they can provide information about the people involved in that [alleged] violent behaviour.

Investigators are working through up to 600 hours of footage, including body-worn footage, police said.

‘It just doesn’t work’: Liberal senator weighs in on job-sharing MP proposal

It should come as little surprise that Australia’s major political parties are not warming to the idea of allowing parliamentarians to job-share after one left-of-field proposal over the weekend.

To recap, two Melbourne women – Lucy Bradlow and Bronwen Bock – have announced their plan to run for federal parliament as independent “job-sharing candidates” in the seat of Higgins.

Higgins was snatched by Labor for the first time ever at the 2022 federal election but is historically a blue ribbon Liberal seat.

The shadow foreign minister, Simon Birmingham , weighed in against the idea of the two-for-one deal the aspiring politicians are offering. Speaking to ABC News Breakfast this morning, Birmingham said the idea “just doesn’t work”, citing examples of minor parties who have combusted over the years.

The idea that you have representative democracy is to vest that in an individual [and] that is an age-old proposition. It requires an individual to exercise their judgement, but also to be able to do so consistently. I think if you think about how many of the smaller parties and others have operated over recent years, we often get in – the most recent example was Jacqui Lambie and Tammy Tyrrell , two members supposedly of the same party elected, but then they go their separate ways during the course of the parliament, because they have legitimate disagreements in how they work together or the issues they stand for. It just doesn’t work to have a member of Parliament split in two as two different individuals, and then expect they’re going to be able to operate in consensus and deliver the type of consistency that’s required.

As my colleagues Ben Smee and Lisa Cox canvassed over the weekend , constitutional law experts aren’t quite in agreement over whether the idea could work in reality.

Professor Anne Twomey said she was “very doubtful” it would be constitutionally valid while Professor Kim Rubenstein believed it was “entirely consistent” with the constitution.

Federal government ‘still in discussions’ with NSW around distribution of health funds

As Peter Hannam reported earlier: NSW will “almost certainly” lose its top-notch debt rating after a carve-up of GST, the state’s treasurer Daniel Mookhey has said.

The assessment comes about a month after the commonwealth grants commission revealed how it would allocate GST money. NSW complained it would lose $1.65bn even as its population swelled and other states, such as Victoria, got extra funds. You can read all the details on this below:

Speaking to ABC Radio earlier today, Mookhey said the changes flagged by the commonwealth grants commission were expected to cost NSW nearly $12bn in the coming four years:

That’s the equivalent of about 19,000 health care workers, that’s 16,000 teachers ... $11.9bn is how much we spend on mental health, Tafe and the NSW police force combined every year. To put this in really stark relief, NSW has lost more revenue with the commonwealth grants commission than we did during Covid-19.

The federal assistant treasurer, Stephen Jones, told ABC Radio his government was still in discussions with NSW about the distribution of funds under health, education and other deals:

In the area of health, we’re negotiating with NSW and other states around the new health and hospitals agreement. We’re in discussions around the NDIS, we’ve provided a record new injection into housing funding – $2bn last year alone.

Circling back to Erin Patterson’s case, which resumed after about 10 minutes:

Tim Walsh , the magistrate, said he would not be able to accommodate the dates put forward by Erin Patterson ’s lawyers for a committal hearing – the hearing in which the evidence against her will be tested for the first time.

He asked her lawyers whether they had considered moving the case to the Melbourne magistrates’ court, or applying to have it fast tracked through the supreme court.

But Colin Mandy , for Patterson, said it was her wish for the case to be heard in Morwell, regardless of any prospective delays, which Walsh said could mean she spends at least 15 months on remand before the committal hearing.

Walsh said he was concerned by the delay, notwithstanding Patterson’s wishes.

Mandy said that it was standard practice for a court to hear matters as close as possible to where an alleged crime occurred and to the home of the accused. The crimes allegedly occurred at Patterson’s home in Leongatha, about 60km away.

Mandy said:

It’s not only a matter of principle and there are powerful reasons for the committal having to take place in the local community.

Walsh responded: “It won’t be in the local community, it will be in Morwell.”

Mandy then said, “That’s close to Ms Patterson’s home in the context of regional Victoria.”

Patterson was remanded in custody until 7 May, when the matter will return for a committal mention.

Gap between Labor and coalition remains tight, according to latest polls

Anthony Albanese remains the preferred prime minister over opposition leader Peter Dutton after two new polls found the major parties are running neck and neck ahead of the May budget.

A Newspoll published in The Australian shows most voters think Albanese is the better leader at 48% against Dutton at 35%.

On a two-party preferred basis, Labor narrowly leads the opposition at 51% to 49% – unchanged from the previous poll. At the same time, Labor’s primary vote sits at 33%, below the coalition at 38%.

The results tally with another poll published by Nine newspapers today. The Resolve Political Monitor also shows Albanese leading Dutton on the preferred prime minister stakes, at 41% to 32%. But after preferences, the two parties are tied at 50%.

The Newspoll also asked voters about Labor’s Future Made in Australia Act , and found 56% of voters agreed the government should actively invest in green projects, against 38% who disagreed.

The Resolve poll asked voters about cost of living pressures, with 55% saying they would struggle to raise the few thousand dollars needed for a major expense. The poll also found Australians are most concerned about grocery costs (55%) and utility bills (37%).

The 2024/25 budget will be handed down on 14 May. The Newspoll of 1,236 voters was conducted online between 15 April and 18 April.

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