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Which KBS iron shaft is best for you?

Published: 22 September 2022 Last updated: 17 January 2024

KBS iron shafts are for everyone from the world’s best golfers to slow-swinging amateurs, but which of their 14 models best suits you? Let us explain…

Golfers rarely give a second thought to which shafts are in a new set of irons . Yet, KBS believe 14 different models (all of which come in numerous weights and flexes) are needed to cover all types of players.

Technology has taught the brains behind KBS – Kim Braly, if he’s to fit hard-hitting tour pros alongside moderate speed, high handicap amateurs the brand needs a vast array of options. The thinking has led to the creation of 14 different steel and graphite KBS iron models.

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We don’t want to fit you for your perfect iron shaft. That should only ever be done with the help of a decent club fitter in the real world. But, to highlight how shaft technology helps you hit better iron shots more often we’ve taken a look at the full KBS line-up.

When buying your next set remember KBS shafts can change how a shaft feels, launches and spins, so you have the opportunity to choose your perfect ball flight and set-up. Here’s what you need to know about KBS iron shafts.

Players’ models

Kbs c-taper iron shaft.

There are three-pillar players’ shafts within the KBS line-up and each differs by balance point. The Tour is stiffest in the grip section (for good feel) and it gives mid-launch and mid-spin. The C-Taper is stiffest in the tip section (close to the head) to give a stout and strong feel and deliver low launch with low spin. The S-Taper fits neatly between the pair.

C stands for Constant Taper, so the shaft has no steps, which allows the C-Taper to have a strong and stout feel. Typically the model suits stronger golfers, and players can expect a 5% lower ball flight than True Temper’s Dynamic Gold . Major winners Gary Woodland and Justin Rose have played the C-Taper as has Rickie Fowler .

KBS $-Taper iron shaft

All three KBS pillar players’ iron shafts come in the same five weights, so golfers get to choose based on the launch, spin, and ball flight desired for their own game.

Half flexes (R+ and S+) are brilliant for golfers that sit on the fence between two flexes. They alleviate decisions around whether to go regular flex for more distance or stiff for increased accuracy. The S-Taper (Subtle Taper) is midway between the C-Taper (lowest spin and launch) and Tour shaft (mid-spin and launch).

KBS Tour iron shaft

The Tour is Kim Braly’s signature shaft, it was the first KBS model and it’s the mothership of KBS. Thanks to not being overly strong the Tour can suit a wide audience of golfers. Its consistent step pattern is a good fit for smoother, less aggressive transition players.

Thanks to being a high balance point model (so weight is positioned closer to the grip), golfers get a slightly softer feel and good feedback at the top of the swing. A further Tour FLT (Flighted) shaft model launches long irons higher and short irons lower for a more optimised set.

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How KBS players’ steel shafts differ in launch and spin

KBS Tour V iron shaft

KBS see the Tour V as an outlier shaft because the model is 10g lighter than the C-Taper, $-Taper, and Tour.

KBS Tour Rep Paul Steels says “the Tour V shaft is often a good fit for players who like the shot shape and flight of the C-Taper but want extra feel, as the C-Taper is just so boardy”.

KBS C-Taper Lite, $-Taper Lite, and Tour Lite iron shafts

There’s lots of misunderstanding around lighter iron shafts. But KBS say golfers should see their Lite models (which are 15g lighter than the standard models) as giving a little more launch and being easier to get airborne (than the 3 pillar models).

For players who don’t go at iron shots full tilt Lite models can be a really good option as club speeds increase and shots launch higher. Lite models and aging typically go hand-in-hand. If you happen to overload the shaft you’ll know because shots will start turning over left of the target (for a right-handed golfer).

Also, think about launch windows. A strong but very low launch player could see benefits by going Lite but in a strong flex to up launch and ball flight.

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KBS iron shaft swing speed recommendations

Average speed KBS iron shaft models

Kbs max and max ct80 iron shafts.

To ensure KBS have shafts to suit every golfer’s speed they produce ultralight Max and Max CT80 shafts as well. Both Max shafts are high-launch, high-spin models which help optimise ball flight for maximum carry distance at moderate speeds.

Remember it’s possible to be a fast but inconsistent high handicapper (in which case you’d be better suited to one of the KBS players’ shaft models), so think about shafts suiting speeds rather than ability. Thanks to their low kick point and high launch properties the Max shafts regularly make an appearance in stronger lofted irons (think TaylorMade Stealth and Callaway Big Bertha B21 ).

Typically high-speed players, irrespective of ability will not touch this product.

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There are junior options too

To ensure golfers can go through their whole golfing career with a familiar KBS feel, the brand also produce two junior steel shafts (the 560 and 580). Both are designed to suit the speed of 8 – 11-year-old players.

Both shafts are lightened steel, so the weights are similar to lightweight graphite iron ranges. But, crucially golfers don’t get a heavy head feel which can cause issues when switching from graphite to steel once a child is a stronger teenager.

When should you go graphite?

Graphite irons shafts are massively misunderstood in the modern game. Many people think they’re for older golfers and slower speed players, which just isn’t the case. Graphite irons shafts are easier on the body. They remove vibration, and can suit everyone from tour players to very moderate speed club golfers.

In typical KBS fashion, the brand make three graphite models (all are available in numerous weights and flexes), here’s what you need to know about them.

How KBS graphite iron shafts differ in launch and spin

KBS TGI – Tour Graphite Iron shaft

KBS specifically target a steel-like feel from their graphite shafts. They’ve done such a good job fulfilling their brief several tour players swear it’s not actually graphite. Thinking instead it’s a steel shaft painted black.

The TGI can be matched to golfers’ speeds (there are eight weights, so the model can suit from 57mph to 100mph speed players) in exactly the same way as the brand’s steel shafts. The TGI is the company’s lowest launching and spinning graphite iron shaft, it’s pretty strong and stout, so decent players often like it.

KBS PGI – Players Graphite Iron shaft

In developing their shafts KBS have undertaken masses of research, and they say when the flex isn’t disclosed golfers often prefer the feel of graphite over steel. Their advice is to play the flex you need. Don’t be tempted to go stiffer than necessary. And if you swing a 6-iron at 70mph play a shaft that performs at that speed.

The PGI was developed to bring a steel-like feel to graphite and it’s a step up from the lower launching and spinning TGI. The PGI is widely played on the LPGA Tour, it’s the brand’s mid-launch/mid-spin graphite iron shaft. Six weights mean the model can suit from 57mph to 94mph players.

KBS Max graphite iron shaft

The Max graphite is the highest launching and spinning graphite iron shaft in the KBS line-up. It’s a model for golfers who really need help launching shots high into the air to maximise carry distance. Five weights mean the model can suit swing speeds from 51 to 82mph.

KBS graphite iron shaft swing speed recommendations

Get it right the first time

KBS reckon so long as golfers get fitted correctly the first time they can progress through KBS models throughout their playing career. It means, if like Gary Woodland you’re a C-Taper player or Cameron Smith a Tour shaft player you stay within that family but progress to lighter models as you age.

And to demonstrate how important finding the right family is KBS say to look at Adam Scott and Gary Woodland . Scott has been a Tour shaft player for years (think of his smooth, under-control swing) whereas Woodland is a big strong hitter of the ball, so he’s a C-Taper guy all day long. But, switch their clubs over and both would struggle to play, as they wouldn’t get the ball flight or shot window they’d be expecting.

Don’t forget your wedges

Today KBS are a through-the-bag shaft company. They make shafts for drivers, fairways, hybrids, irons, wedges, and putters, so if you’re taking the time to get fitted don’t neglect how the company produce five different wedges shafts too.

KBS say the Hi-Rev wedge shaft has been designed from the Tour shaft profile. There’s a lengthened tip section to give a softer feel and generate extra spin. If you play the Tour shaft you’ll likely enjoy this wedge model too. The brand’s 610 wedge shaft was designed to complement the Tour V shaft.

Where C-Taper and S-Taper fans often run shafts from their irons through into the wedges, albeit at a slightly lighter weight as wedge shots are rarely hit full out.

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How do KBS iron shafts compare in data?

Verdict: KBS iron shafts

Lots of people will look at our test pro’s data and think the shafts are performing very much alike. But the data says nothing about how different the shafts felt.

Comparing the C-Taper and S-Taper the data shows the pair as being pretty evenly matched but the difference in feel was phenomenal. So different in fact our test pro felt he just wouldn’t be able to use the C-Taper effectively on the golf course (as it’s so strong). Where the $-Taper felt brilliant and could well be his perfect match within the KBS family.

The Lite shafts produced a faster ball speed, just as KBS promised and the C-Taper Lite in particular launched and flighted shots higher with a steeper descent angle, so there’s a huge amount of tuning in ball flight and feel available from shafts.

Just as KBS promised the TGI graphite shaft produced some very good optimal numbers too, they’d be a very sensible choice for golfers looking to avoid the shock and vibration of using steel shafts. Equally the Max graphite climbed to its peak height very early in its flight, which at lower speeds will be a real benefit in maximising carry distance.

At the end of the day, KBS are all about the consumer. You get what you want, whether that be higher or lower launching, more or less spin, or a different feel, everything is on offer within the KBS iron family. Our test pro liked the $-Taper for his own game as it didn’t feel too strong, yet it felt stable and produced a good feel through the hands, and he had control over his ball flight.

KBS Founder Kim Braly on a life spend designing golf shafts

Many golfers won’t know the name Kim Braly, but the guy is a shaft legend. He has dedicated his life to creating the highest performance shafts you can buy, and we sat down with him.

How have shafts evolved over the last 150 years?

A hundred of those years were dominated by hickory shafts. Steel shafts didn’t come about until the 1930s. My father patented “Frequency Matching” (in the 1980s) which has been the biggest breakthrough during my lifetime. Until then there were no standards; the method gave a baseline to compare and match shafts. Everything I’ve achieved since is down to the Frequency Matching method he invented.

How did the Frequency Matching idea come about?

We made titanium irons with tungsten weights and wanted to see how different set-ups affected performance. We organised a golf robot, and tried two identical set ups, yet the results were entirely different. We started questioning if shafts might not be matched. My dad developed Frequency Matching as a way to compare and match (for flex, weight, profile through CPM, cycles per minute) shafts to one another. The process hasn’t changed for 30 years.

You developed the Rifle and Project X shafts which are still popular; what was different about them?

No set of shafts had been designed individually for each club until then. They were a breakthrough. We’d follow the PGA Tour (at a time when there were no tour vans) and explain to players about matching their irons. We could match a whole set to the club they felt most comfortable and confident with. We were custom fitting without really knowing it.

I’m also proud of what we’ve achieved at KBS over the last 10-12 years. If we aren’t the leaders in shaft technology I really don’t know who is.

What was the players’ reaction?

They were super interested. We had lines of people wanting to understand how shafts affected performance. We learned all sorts. In relation to frequency the lightest shaft in the bag (the driver) will be the stiffest. The weakest shaft should be in the lob wedge, as there’s lots of shots hit less than full out, and a fraction weaker shaft allows you to know where the head is.

Today, the correct fit for players is often a flex and a half stiffer than we recommended 15 years ago. At the start we were a couple of guys just trying to understand. It wasn’t about marketing; we had our mathematical theory and we wanted to understand if it worked in practice.

How have launch monitors affected modern shaft fittings?

They’re one of the best things to have happened to golf. Launch monitors have helped people understand ball flight, spin, height and launch. Every shaft I’ve ever designed has been designed with a type of player in mind.

Each KBS shaft fits into a matrix, we’ve worked on them one at a time, and the line-up is nearly 100% complete.

Where do you start designing new shafts? Is it an idea from you, or a request from a player?

We have ideas, but they have to work in practice. In golf “feel” is a huge thing. If the feel is wrong products go nowhere. I’ve enjoyed dialling in the KBS Tour Lite (steel) and KBS PGI (Players’ Graphite Iron shaft) to be “everyman” golf shafts over the last two years.

They work at specific swing speed ranges, and thanks to our options we can optimise launch and spin for golfers swinging 6-iron in the region of 80mph.

You’ve worked on a bunch of top performing shafts, but which are you most proud of?

The Precision Rifle put me on the map, set up my career and I learned loads from it. The first KBS Tour shaft was a really big deal, too. It’s the foundation stone of every other KBS shaft, where all our other current shafts start. I’m awfully proud of it.

Have you hit hickory shafts? How different are they to today’s models?

The last two tournaments I’ve played have been hickory challenges. Hickory weighs a ton (they’re 180g in a 6-iron), they’re really stiff but the torque is unreal. You can literally twist the head in your hand. Wood is strong in one direction – the one it’s grown in – which is up and down the shaft.

Will graphite shafts ever be the norm through the bag?

I’ve heard so many times how graphite represents the future. In terms of iron shafts steel is still a great material. The reason graphite became popular is its strength to weight ratio. It’s possible to make a 45in driver shaft at a “normal” swingweight.

You just can’t do that with steel, but you don’t need that as much in irons. Steel isn’t going away.

KBS make 16 different iron shafts; why so many?

Each of our profiles do different things. You may have the tendency to hit the ball low, so we have shafts designed to spin more and have a higher trajectory, and vice-versa.

For every 2.5mph of club speed change golfers need a different shaft flex, and that’s why we make half flexes. There’s also feel to consider. In our KBS Tour franchise we go from 130g to 90g in 5g increments (nine different weights), so golfers get what they need.

Whereas in a traditional three flex line-up (R, S, X) golfers get pushed into the best option available. KBS have a reputation for making good feeling shafts because golfers get shafts with the correct load at impact, which naturally feels good. Everything really does come back to fitting.

KBS Tour Lite Shaft Review: How Does This Lightweight Shaft Perform In [2024!?

With a huge number of people using the KBS Tour Lite shaft , I’ve always wondered how the shaft performs well for so many different swing speeds. Hence, I decided to test the Tour Lite, and here’s what I found:

In short, while the shaft performs great and fits a wide range of swing speeds , the feel of the shaft might be off for some golfers.

Why Consider the KBS Tour Lite Shaft?

When you have medium to high swing speed but you’re not comfortable with heavy shafts, consider the KBS Tour Lite shaft.

It’s a perfect match for players wanting accuracy and maximum control over their shots without sacrificing the distance.

The shaft is also very forgiving during mishits and has a solid feel required for higher launch angles.

KBS Tour Lite Specifications

Available Flex Options: Regular, Stiff, Extra-Stiff
Weight: 95g, 100g, 105g
Suitable for Clubs: 2-iron to 9-iron, SW, PW
Length: 37 inches to 40.5 inches
Finish: Chrome

Testing the KBS Tour Lite

For the on-field testing, I hit 15 shots with each flexibility option available for the Tour Lite. As my swing speed is around 100 mph, the Extra Stiff version suited me more.

Apart from that, I also tried the shaft with my irons, wedges, and driver to provide you with all-round performance feedback.

My Experience with the KBS Tour Lite

What impressed me most about the KBS Tour Lite was how easily I could swing the club with less effort than its heavier counterparts. The shaft was stable and had a smooth feel at impact.

Thanks to its high kick point, the shaft didn’t twist much, and I got my preferred angles. The ball spin was high, and it wasn’t difficult to hit the greens.

However, the shaft isn’t suitable for my driver or wedges as I didn’t like how the shaft feels with these club heads.

performance reviews of KBS Tour Lite Shaft

After elaborate testing and comparing the data, here’s how well the shaft holds up:

Range (5 Stars)

With 3 different flexibility options and reduced weight for each, the KBS Tour Shaft fits almost everyone, from amateurs to fast swingers. Numerous professional golfers use it while many entry-level players also find it easy to swing and get the right ball speed and precision.

Look and Finish (4 Stars)

With a shiny chrome finish, the Tour Lite has a classy look. The silver shaft has red engravings that blend perfectly. The chrome finish will last for a long time and prevent chipping. Although I prefer a more eye-catchy shaft, some golfers like the toned-down look of the Tour Lite.

Launch Angle and Accuracy (4.5 Stars)

As you can transfer maximum weight to this lightweight shaft, the Tour Lite allows you to launch at higher angles. During my testing, the ball hit exactly where I wanted and landed at steeper angles.

Carry Distance and Ball Spin (4.7 Stars)

One of the strongest merits of the Tour Lite is the extra carry distance it offers despite shedding off some weight. On the course, I was getting 10 to 15 yards extra carry and the ball spin was also high. Therefore, the shots were consistently accurate.

Forgiveness and Workability (4 Stars)

With the KBS Tour Lite, you can forget about the irritating shaft vibration when you miss the sweet spot of the club. The shaft dampens the noise and vibration for mishits and provides a clean sound and smooth feel.

However, not everyone is a fan of it, especially those who prefer to distinguish their mishits to improve their game. Moreover, while the shaft worked great for my irons, it didn’t perform well with my drivers.

Who Are the KBS Tour Lite Shafts For?

Golfers Generating 80 mph or Lower Swing Speed: The Regular flex is a great option for a solid feel and greater carry distance.
Golfers Generating 80-90 mph Swing Speed: Should pick the Stiff flex for tighter dispersion and Improved accuracy.
Golfers Generating 100 mph+ Swing Speed: Extra Stiff Tour Lite shaft for a balance of speed and control.

Alternatives to Consider

If the KBS Tour Lite doesn’t match your playing style, here are two alternatives you can consider:

Nippon Modus 105

Lightweight design for increased swing speed
Consistent feel to improve accuracy
Good balance of distance and control
Mid-spinning; strong flight trajectory
Not as aggressive as some other high-performance shafts

Project X LZ

Low-launch profile offers maximum control and reduced unwanted ballooning
Robust construction and incredibly stable feel
Spin reduction for longer distance
Lightweight and easy to load
Can be too stiff for some golfers

final Verdict on our KBS Tour Lite Shaft Review

The KBS Tour Lite is an excellent shaft for golfers who want to gain more distance on the green. If you’re struggling with slow swing speed and less control, this shaft is an ideal choice.

High launch, lighter weight, more ball spin, etc., are some added benefits that make it appealing to diverse golfers. However, for swing speeds over 105 mph+, the Tour Lite might deliver erratic performance.

Read our full article on Kbs Tour Lite Vs Dynamic Gold 105 Shafts Face-Off [2024!]

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KBS Tour V Shaft Review and Comparison to KBS Tour

Overall, our testers rated the Tour V 4.4 out of 5 based on the following:

Appearance: Typical KBS silver finish same as their Tour shaft.

Flexes Available: R, S and X in taper tip only, 3-9 iron (use 9 iron shaft for wedges). From a design perspective, the thing we like is that the flexes will be consistent versus the Tour version, which does not always happen when you go to a lighter version of the same shaft. So, if you are playing an S in the Tour, you will get very close to the same CPM in the Tour V. Same with the R and X.

MSRP: $75.00 USD

Availability: KBS, qualified fitters, and select retail golf stores.

Weight Consistency: 4.8 out of 5.0

Butt Stiffness (CPM): Consistent increase in CPM from R through X. R will play lower end of R, S will play low-mid S, and X will play mid-X. Consistency is 4.7 out of 5.

Tip Stiffness: Medium

Mid Stiffness: Medium

Balance Point: Will yield an average swing weight.

Torque: Good transition of higher torque in R flex to lowest torque in X flex. Low torque rating overall.

SQI (Shaft Quality Index): 91.1 out of 100 ( Average). The S and X flexes are the highest quality. The test samples we received were not as consistent in the R flex.

Trajectory: Launch angle is mid. Tested against the Tour, the Tour V was .5 to 2.0 degrees higher launch.

Spin: Mid spin. The spin rate was 600 – 800 rpm lower with the Tour V than the Tour, or roughly 11% lower.

Feel: Solid feel for all testers. Felt smoother than the Tour for all testers.

General: This will be a good addition to the KBS line. Some stronger players overpower the KBS 90 but like the feel of a lighter weight shaft so the Tour V should fit that bill perfectly.

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Swing weight KBS Tour vs. DGS300

Thread starter lernis
Start date Mar 18, 2014

Ok, so I got fitted for the MP 64. I really can't feel the clubhead when using a KBS tour S straight in, I guess the higher balance point gives it a lower swing weight. The S300 felt sooo good and I hit the ball well. However, they fly a bit too low and also I think I loose a bit of club head speed with them because of the higher weight. I tried the KBS Tour S in my old irons (Callaway X proto) with a bit of lead tape and I hit that club more than one club longer than the same head with S300. So my questions are: - What swing weight is the MP64 with DGS300 straight in? - What swing weight is the MP64 with KBS Tour S straight in? - Can the "S300" swing weight be achieved by adding weight to the head when using a KBS Tour Stiff? If I could get the KBS Tour S with higher swing weight I think that would be the perfect combination. Any ideas Mizuno-guys? Best regards Lernis, Sweden

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what swingweight was your callaway with lead tape , and what swingweight do ou want, ?? Mizuno clubs with S300 shafts standard length " off the shelf " models are between D0 -D3.there is 10grms difference between an S300 (130grms) to KBS Tour (120grms) if you wanted to go up in shaft weight you would have to have KBS X.flex.and this would be too stiff for you. S300 is stock shaft. KBS tour is a custom shaft and kan be made to your preferred swingweight lower or higher co called balance point does`nt have anything to do with swingweight, S300 shafts have a high kickpoint = lower ball flight. Lower kickpoint = higher ballflight, . Stewart, Welcome to the Forum

Can the "S300" swing weight be achieved by adding weight to the head when using a KBS Tour Stiff? Click to expand... Yes it can. I did this to my MP 63's and my MP 68's. It's quite a bit of lead tape though!

I had a few months with the KBS Tour stiff in a set of MP52's but found I hit them too high & with too much spin - The KBS C-Taper might be a good choice for you as they still had the great feel of the KBS Tour but with none of the problems I had with spin - There is also a better choice of shafts in the C-Taper allowing for a better fitting - The downside is they are quite a bit more expensive than a KBS Tour, but if money was no object I would have them in a set of irons in a heartbeat Going back to the S300 - If the standard one gives you too low a flight there are a few alternative versions that will give you a higher flight (Dynamic Gold XP for example) Good luck ... Paul

Stewart 57 said: what swingweight was your callaway with lead tape , and what swingweight do ou want, ?? Mizuno clubs with S300 shafts standard length " off the shelf " models are between D0 -D3.there is 10grms difference between an S300 (130grms) to KBS Tour (120grms) if you wanted to go up in shaft weight you would have to have KBS X.flex.and this would be too stiff for you. S300 is stock shaft. KBS tour is a custom shaft and kan be made to your preferred swingweight lower or higher co called balance point does`nt have anything to do with swingweight, S300 shafts have a high kickpoint = lower ball flight. Lower kickpoint = higher ballflight, . Stewart, Welcome to the Forum Click to expand... I want the exact same swingweight as the combination which had the S300 in them. Didn't measure the x-proto with lead tape but it felt D2-ish. I was wrong in the terminology there you are right regarding balance point. But the KBS Tours are "Counterbalanced" which means they are heavier towards the butt end of the shaft compared to say Dynamic Gold which will also give a lighter swingweight regardless of the weight of the shaft. I have played project X which is a bit lighter than DGS300 and they were still the same swing weight as S300... Regarding ball flight - thank you. That's what I want to achieve. I think by putting tip weights inside the shaft the clubmaker can "counter" the counterbalance a bit. Yes?

MPB said: Can the "S300" swing weight be achieved by adding weight to the head when using a KBS Tour Stiff? Click to expand... Yes it can. I did this to my MP 63's and my MP 68's. It's quite a bit of lead tape though! Click to expand... Alright. But can't the clubmaker use tip weights inside the hosel/shaft instead?

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Kbs c-taper shaft review.

Review: First let me say a couple things..first it took me a bit longer to get a Fair bit of play on FIRM ground…as its been far to soggy in the PNW lately…but I traveled over to the eastern part of the state where the ground is firm to duplicate more realistic playing conditions than the mush around Portland/Seattle!

Click here to read the discussion in the forums

Let me preface what I have been playing prior to the C-TAPERS, I play to single digit handicap, iron play for the most part has been one of the stronger parts of my game. When playing well I like to take a small divot…I have been playing PX 6.5’s for a while now and PX 6.0 prior to that for the past several years…with a couple runs of DG x100’s just to keep things interesting. I have also spent a great deal of time and money trying pretty much every brand and style of iron shafts that come around…but alway have come back to my steady eddies PX’s due to the reduced spin, flight and consistence distances. In fact my good buddies Swanry30, desallie and I did a Trackman shoot out between PX and DG recently and pretty much confirmed what I had seen in the real world for quite some time…DG just spin too much for me and where the PX don’t and hence I’m about 1 club longer with them (individual results will vary) but those are mine.

Second, the C-TAPERS are like No other shaft I’ve ever tested…and in all honesty it took me a while to get accustomed to the differences-in fact the first 5-6 times I initially hit the c-tapers I was quite perplexed as to what I was experiencing due the sound and feel even thou the results were always there and I wasn’t confidant in what I was going to write about and tell of my experience until first I got out of the SOGGY pit of the NW and hit some firm ground.

I don’t have any Trackman numbers yet (hopefully soon) so most of what I’m relating is by good ole ballflight and distance.. I hit my Satin PX 6.5 side by side the C-Tapers as the comparison.

Feel: The C-Tapers are very quiet in the feel department…meaning they are soo smooth that I really wasn’t sure I was loading the shaft this was quite a contast to the PX which has quite a ‘pop’ to them and the DG’s which you really feel the action of the shaft all the way thru the shaft. While the C-tapers are, what I would call as ‘Refined’ as it gets…the load seems to be transfers through out the shaft almost without notice…which initially I found this alarming but soon understood what was happening as the results were there.

Sound: Again I’ll use the word ‘Quiet’, as in contrast to my PX the sound of impact is very muted, soft, yet firm but certainly many decibels lower. Again I found this puzzling combine with the feel- once I became accustomed to it very pleasing. Ballflight: This is where rubber meets the road, I would agree with KBS statement about 5% lower than the competition. I found specifically the mid and long irons (6i-3i) to flight lower than the PX’s. And the short irons a bit closer to the PX flight.

Workability: The C-Tapers are definitely more workable(or rather feel more) than PX, but DG still is the king on the feel dept. when it comes to working the ball but not necessary the results. I found the actual workable part of the C-tapers could come close to hanging with DG’s even thou they didn’t necessary feel like they were..make sense? But I would say they are a great bridge between PX and DG in this category. I had a shot on a par 4(hit my 3w off the tee left on a dogleg right into the trees)…was sitting about 165yards out uphill to the green surrounded by Pine trees…but had a small window to needle thru 3 trees in front of me but had to keep the shot low …So I have to hit a low hook just to get to the fairway(which was all I was trying to do)..So I set with a 5i and the shot came out perfect and actually went about 2 ft past the green…(for those of you keeping score).I missed the putt for par!

Distance: The I would also say KBS statement is likely true again with the 5% gain in distance, this was more evident in the mid and long irons to me..I will also throw this into the distance segment…I choose the S+ set of C-tapers, imo they feel very close to flex of my PX 6.5’s Satins, however I think the X flex’s would be a better comparison in straight terms of the px.6.5 for distance, as the added spin which allows the the shafts to Be Workable also spins just a bit more and coupled with a 1/2 flex under what I should be playing makes them play just a tad shorter than what I have be accustomed to…I look forward to picking up a set of X flex’s in the very near future as KBS C-tapers have all the things I have been looking for in irons shafts.

Final thoughts: I really believe KBS has a winner with the C-Tapers, this is by far the best KBS shaft I have tried- they look awesome, the abilities to feel and work the ball is great, the ball flight is consistent and distance is good but I have since determined that the S+ are slightly too soft for my iron game, but loo forward to giving them a go again when I get the correct flex. And after all of that I really think KBS has great product here, perhaps even the best of them all-

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Inspired from tour player feedback, the KBS C-TAPER shaft is specially designed to produce a lower flight and spin rate while delivering the signature benefits of a piercing trajectory and smooth feel. By stiffening the shaft profile in the lower taper rate and early tip section, the C-TAPER is engineered to maximize shot performance for players that currently have too high a trajectory.

Incorporating signature AST technology, the C-TAPER shaft produces a smooth feel through contact while maximizing energy transfer for distance gains and better control of the ball.

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Apr 12, 2018 at 7:23 am

I used DG S300’s for over 25 years now, the stiff C-Taper was indeed slightly lower and slightly longer than the S300’s. Same club head (Bridgestone J40 CB). They just feel a bit stronger yet are smooth at the same time. I’m very skeptical about shaft technology but the C-Tapers are definitely the real deal.

Jan 13, 2018 at 12:14 am

Did a 12 year old write this?

Paul Middlebrook

Aug 18, 2014 at 2:10 pm

I play the C-Taper 130X. The shafts have taken me about 1 month of pounding balls to get that close DNA connection between the swing and club. I do not kill or crush the ball but felt the 130X was perfect for feel and flight. I played the DG 300-100 and many other shafts and felt they did the job but never delivered what is so vital to the overall path of a golf ball. A shaft is like a scope to a rifle. You want to hit your target. The fit, form, and function of the C-Taper is solid and the PGA pro’s validate its exceptional return on a great swing. I have pounded thousands of balls at the range and feel take a little time to get used to. The sound sometimes does not validate the perfect contact and that is something they could enhance on. You can hit a shot and it is so quiet and the ball pierces straight to the target. I have had other watchers says wow that was a great shot but it did not sound like that swoosh off the club head. The ball flight is subjective and I ended up adjusting all my clubs to get that low piercing flight pattern. Example: Play Titleist 710 MB and standard 9 Iron is 47 degree’s. I changed it to 43 degree’s and that made all the difference. I think if you love the game and tinker with equipment without fear you will enhance to another paradigm level. Adjusting the loft and lie and going to the 130X helped me go to mid single digit.

Mar 21, 2014 at 5:00 pm

I now play the c taper S+ soft stepped. Went from dgX100 soft stepped. C taper has better feel and a ball flight that seems to plow through the wind. I don’t need my irons to be super long. As long as they fill the distance gaps. And the c tapers do that in spades, very consistent as well. Trajectory is nice. I would say its the same trajectory as the X100’s. With the c tapers the wind doesn’t affect the flight as much though. Very impressed with these shafts. They are not meant for everyone. But if they are for you, their is nothing better. Swallow your pride if your getting fit for these. You will probably play a flex lower than what you play now. I’d rather shoot par with clubs that fit me, than shooting a 85 and saying I use clubs that the pro’s use.

Feb 27, 2013 at 3:17 pm

Just got a set of AMP forged with X C-Tapers….WOW!!! Couldn’t be more excited to go out and play/pracitce!

Oct 27, 2012 at 11:40 am

I have the c taper on a set of golfsmith irons. Previously I had been playing the DG SL which performed for me but the KBS are my favorites now. They allow me to work the ball right or left and I can keep the ball down now a little easier. I have more distance but the best thing for me is they have the smoothest feel of any shaft I have tried. I also like the brushed metal look of the shaft. FYI I had to experiment with the tipping until I got the feel I was looking for.

Jun 29, 2012 at 12:18 am

I hit the c taper shaft in a taylormade mc fitting iron today. It was definitely one of the best feeling shafts I have found. For someone like me 100 mph club speed with mid/long irons, this shaft held up extremely well and brought my spin rate and launch angle down. It was also easy to work. Definitely going to be my next iron shaft

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Here’s why Jordan Spieth switched into a new Fujikura Ventus TR Blue shaft at Pebble Beach

When Fujikura’s new Ventus TR Blue shaft launched in January 2022, we learned all about the updated construction and potential performance benefits compared to the original Ventus Blue. It was unclear at the time, however, exactly who would make the switch into the new TR design on the PGA Tour.

Well, we’re starting to get some answers.

Jordan Spieth , who’s been relatively slow to change into new products throughout his career, is among a handful of names making the change. Spieth conducted recent testing with a Ventus Blue TR 7 X shaft in his Titleist TS2 15-degree fairway wood, and he put it in play this week at the 2022 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am.

Titleist Tour representative J.J. Van Wezenbeeck, who works closely with Spieth on his equipment, said that Spieth came to the Titleist Performance Institute (TPI) on Friday before the 2022 Pebble Beach Pro-Am for a check-up on his equipment. Since Spieth was previously playing Ventus Blue shafts in his Titleist metalwoods, he was intrigued by the new TR version.

As it turned out, Spieth found the new shaft to help with his transition and directional control.

“Coming from Ventus Blue, anytime they update a shaft you’re just intrigued on that, and he liked how [the Ventus TR Blue] loaded compared to the original Ventus Blue for him,” Van Wezenbeeck told GolfWRX on Tuesday. “He felt like when he mishit it, there was a little more control. So that was a good option for him…we did a little bit of internal work on the head to make sure there’s enough spin, because want to make sure his 3 wood doesn’t have too low of spin. He liked how the TR reacted on mishits where the spin didn’t drop, and it had more consistent spin from swing to swing.”

Due to a new Spread Tow fabric in the butt-end section, which is essentially a checkerboard pattern of woven material, the torque on the TR version is 10 percent stiffer in the mid-to-grip end of the shaft. As a result, Fujikura says the TR shaft is designed to improve stability and consistency compared to the original Ventus Blue.

Based on Spieth’s results with the TR shaft during testing, it seems Fujikura’s case holds water.

Spieth is using a Ventus Blue TR 7 X version in his fairway wood.

Pat McCoy, Director of Tour Operations at Fujikura, spoke with GolfWRX about the new shaft, and what players are seeing in their testing out on Tour.

“Compared to the original Ventus Blue, the TR has a stiffer mid-section and lower torque,” McCoy said. “Basically what the shaft does is it eliminates some of the dynamic loft. It eliminates some of the rotation. Obviously, the Ventus Blue was a very stable shaft and one of the best launching shafts we’ve ever had. And we just made it better.

“As far as ball speed and launch and spin, I’m not going to say it’s faster, but we have seen players who have achieved faster speeds with it. It provides more consistency and the ability to turn swing speed into ball speed better. And that’s it. It’s a little stiffer than the original Blue, and it’s a little bit weaker than the [Ventus Black]. It’s a ‘tweener. It gives you something in the middle, and depending upon loft and impact location, you get a better fit.”

The fairway wood shaft wasn’t the only potential change that Spieth will make in 2022, though.

In addition to putting the new Titleist Vokey SM9 wedges in the bag, Spieth is also considering adding another option to the top end of his bag.

Typically, Spieth changes between a hybrid and long irons, depending on course conditions. During the recent session at TPI, though, Spieth took a liking to Titleist’s U-505 wide-bodied driving iron. Ahead of the 2022 AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-Am, Spieth took a U-505 2-iron (Graphite Design AD-DI 105X shaft) out onto the course for testing.

“He’s experimenting with a U-505 this week (ahead of the event at Pebble Beach),” Van Wezenbeeck told GolfWRX. “He’s always gone between a hybrid and either a 2 iron, or a hybrid and 3 iron, and we brought out a 505 as kind of a third option on a week where he isn’t sure whether he should play an iron or a hybrid. The 505 being a wide body iron is kind of a blend between the two. And he was really intrigued with how high it launched on a standard shot, and he could flight it more off the tee, where as with a hybrid he can’t do.

“So on weeks he feels like there’s a lot of irons off the tee, he likes to play the iron. On weeks where there are a lot of shots into par 5s, he likes the hybrid. On weeks where there’s a little of both…he felt the 505 might be an option, so he was taking it on the golf course [on Tuesday] to see how it would react.”

While it’s unclear exactly when Spieth will break out the new U-505, it seems like it’ll certainly be in the rotation going forward. The Ventus TR Blue shaft, on the other hand, has already earned a starting spot in the bag this week.

These changes may seem minor to some, but it shows Spieth’s willingness to find small equipment tweaks to improve his game. For amateur golfers, use this as a lesson when gearing up for the new season. Go through your bag, test some of the new shaft and head options, and see where you can make improvements. Now is the perfect time to take inventory and get prepared.

MRC Shaft Shootout: Tensei CK Pro White, Kuro Kage XT and Diamana BF-Series

The Tensei CK Pro White is the latest release from Mitsubishi Rayon Composites (MRC), a low-launch, low-spin shaft with a multi-material design that the company says improves the performance and feel of the shaft. Whereas most golf shafts use between 3-6 different materials in their construction, the Tensei CK Pro White is made from 11 different materials, giving MRC engineers greater precision in the shaft’s design.

Like MRC’s Tensei CK Pro Blue shafts, which produce a slightly higher-launching, higher-spinning ball flight, the CK Pro White uses MRC’s Carbon Fiber DuPont Kevlar Weave in the handle section of the shaft. The company says it increases the strength and stability of that part of the shaft, leading to better feedback.

On the other end of the shaft, the tip section, MRC uses a boron-reinforced fiber. All low-launch, low-spin shafts have stiff-tip designs, but the addition of boron puts the Tensei CK Pro White in a class of its own when it comes to lowering launch angle and spin rate. The boron fiber also reduces torque, which can offer better energy transfer, more accuracy and better feedback — especially for skilled, high-swing-speed golfers.

Connecting and reinforcing those areas of the shafts is MRC’s low-resin content (LRC) prepreg. Prepreg is carbon fiber that’s been reinforced or “pre-impregnated” with resin, a glue that holds the material together when it’s formed into sheets and rolled into the form of a shaft. MRC says that its LRC has 15 percent more carbon fiber and 13 percent less resin than traditional prepregs, which allows MRC to make the Tensei CK Pro White stronger without adding extra weight to the shaft. MRC also uses high-modulus, 40-ton prepreg in the Tensei CK Pro White’s design, which like LRC is thinner, stronger and lighter than traditional prepregs.

The addition of boron helps MRC make the tip of Tensei CK Pro White shaft stiffer and lower in torque.

In the EI chart below, you can see how the Tensei CK Pro White’s bend profile compares to the CK Pro Blue. The main differences are its slightly stiffer tip and mid sections, as well as its slightly softer butt section. That gives the CK Pro White a higher “kick point” than the CK Pro Blue. Generally, the higher the kick point of a shaft, the lower its launch conditions. That’s why the Tensei CK Pro White is a lower-launching, lower-spinning shaft than the Tensei CK Pro Blue.

The Shootout

Just how much lower launching and lower spinning is the Tensei CK Pro White than MRC’s latest premium driver shafts? I put it to the test against the company’s Kuro Kage XT and Diamana BF-Series, which like the CK Pro White are PGA Tour-quality shafts that sell for about $400 each. All three shafts tested were built to my spec: 70TX, tipped 1 inch at a finished length of 45.5 inches.

I tested the three shafts on Trackman 4 at the Launch Pad at Carl’s Golfland in Bloomfield Hills, Mich. After warming up, I hit 10 drives with each shaft, and whittled my shots down to the most similar five to help illustrate the differences. Premium balls were used for the test, and results were normalized.

MRC’s Kuro Kage XT uses a stouter iteration of the company’s famed “Blue Board” bend profile, and in that regard it’s quite similar to the Diamana BF-Series. That’s what makes the shafts a little higher launching and higher spinning than the Tensei CK Pro White. The Kuro Kage XT has a much different feel than both, however, due to its use of an elastic wire made of Titanium and Nickel that MRC calls “TiNi” wire.

Related: Learn more about the Kuro Kage XT

In the Kuro Kage XT, the TiNi wire is added to the bottom 13 inches of the shaft, where it adds stability, but it also serves another purpose. Its elasticity allows the bottom end of the shaft to better load and unload during the downswing to help improve energy transfer. That’s what gives the Kuro Kage XT its more active feel, at least compared to the boron-infused tip section of the Tensei CK Pro White, which by design offer no elasticity.

The Diamana BF-Series also uses boron in its tip section, and its combined with a new, aerospace-grade fiber called MR-70 to create what MRC says is a first-of-its-kind hybrid prepreg. MR-70, which is manufactured by parent company Mitsubishi Chemical, is 20 percent stronger and has 10 percent more modulus than similar fibers, MRC says . The handle section of the BF-Series is reinforced with MRC’s Pitch Fiber, which functions to boost energy transfer like the CK Pro White’s Carbon Fiber DuPont Kevlar Weave.

Related: Learn more about the Diamana BF-Series shafts

In terms of launch conditions, the best fit for me was the Diamana BF-Series. It launched the ball a little higher than the Tensei CK Pro White, and added a little spin to help keep my drives in the air. It was also easier to swing than the Tensei CK Pro White, helping me more easily hit a draw while offering an even smoother feel due to its less rigid tip and mid sections.

To recap, if you need to lower your launch conditions, the Tensei CK Pro White is one of the most intriguing new MRC options to help you do so. Need a higher ball flight? Try the Diamana BF-Series. And if you want a radically different feel, give the Kuro Kage XT a try.

Have a question? Let me know in the comments section below and I’ll do my best to answer as many as I can.

Weights and Flexes

Tensei CK Pro White: 60 (R, S, TX), 70 (S, TX), 80 (TX)
Kuro Kage XT: 50 (R, S, X, TX), 60 (R, S, X, TX), 70 (S, X, TX), 80 (S, X, TX)
Diamana BF-Series: 50 (R, S, X), 60 (R, S, X, TX), 70 (S, X, TX), 80 (S, X, TX)

Related: GolfWRX Members review the Tensei CK Pro White

Review: KBS Tour FLT Shafts

Pros: FLT shafts use a flighted design, which helps golfers launch their long irons higher and with more spin. The FLT short-iron shafts provide a more penetrating trajectory for more control.

Cons: FLT shaft flexes correspond with weight, so golfers may not be able to match their desired shaft weight with their desired flex.

Who They’re For: Golfers who need more spin or more launch from their long irons to optimize their trajectory. Everyone from beginners to PGA Tour players can use the shafts effectively, but they’ll be most popular with golfers with moderate-to-slow swing speeds, or any golfer who generates low-spin launch conditions.

Selecting the proper iron shafts is one of the most important equipment decisions golfers make. It’s an issue of quantity. Most golfers carry about 7-8 irons in their bag, so if they choose the wrong iron shaft, they’ve made the game harder than it needs to be with half or more of their clubs.

The good news is that there’s a wider selection of quality iron shafts than there has ever been, with recent growth in models that are designed to help golfers hit their iron shots higher and farther, while still maintaining PGA Tour-quality consistency and feel.

KBS is one of the leading steel shaft manufacturers, and already offered a wide variety of models prior to its newest shaft launch. Company representatives felt KBS was lacking a product for a particular segment of golfers, however, so it developed its new FLT shafts.

FLT shafts ($31.95 each) have a flighted design, which helps certain golfers optimize the performance of each iron their bag. The long irons shafts have progressively softer tip sections, which helps golfers increase their launch angle and spin rates with those clubs. For the right golfer, the design will help them hit their iron shots farther, and stop shots on the green more quickly. In the short irons, where height and spin are easier for golfers to generate, the FLT shafts are stiffer, which creates the flatter trajectory most golfers prefer with their scoring clubs. The crossover point between the higher-launching long irons and lower-launching short irons is the 7 iron.

Like all KBS shafts, FLT models have a constant weight, which means that long iron shafts and short iron shafts will be roughly the same weight through the set. Shaft weight is dependent on flex, however, as softer-flex models are lighter than stiffer-flex models. So if you’re looking for a really heavy, regular-flex shaft or a really light, extra-stiff-flex shaft, these aren’t for you.

Keep in mind that KBS shafts do not have reinforced tip sections like many other iron shafts, which gives them a slightly higher balance point and can decrease swing weight by 1-2 points. I personally like the feel of KBS shafts and their slightly higher balance point, but some golfers won’t.

For this review, I tested the new FLT shafts head to head against KBS Tour shafts of the same flex and weight (130X) in 4 irons, 6 irons and pitching wedges. Each of the shafts were installed in Callaway’s Apex Pro ’16 irons , and were built to my specifications (standard grips, standard length, 1-degree strong lofts, 1-degree flat lie angles).

I performed my testing at the Launch Pad at Carl’s Golfland in Bloomfield Hills, Mich., where I hit the 4 irons, 6 irons and pitching wedges on Trackman IV with premium golf balls. I hit 3-6 solid shots with each iron, and then removed the outliers from the final data in an attempt to compare only the most similar strikes. Results were normalized.

As you can see from the data, there was a significant difference in the flight of the 4 irons with the two different shafts, but less of a difference with the 6 irons and pitching wedges.

As expected, the FLT shafts caused 4 iron shots to launch higher (0.8 degrees) and with more spin (729 rpm) than the KBS Tour shafts. I’m not a low-spin player, which is one of the target audiences for this shaft, so the added launch and spin of the FLT shafts caused my 4 iron shots to fly shorter. Golfers who launch their irons too low or with too little spin, however, will likely see a distance increase when using the FLT shafts.

As I moved closer to the short end of the set, the two shafts started to perform more similarly. Theoretically, the 6 iron shots with the FLT shafts should have launched slightly higher and spun more than 6 iron shots with the KBS Tour shafts, but I actually saw a slightly lower launch angle (0.5 degrees) with the FLT. The spin was higher, though, by 211 rpm. With the pitching wedges, the results were again quite similar. The FLT launched 0.9 degrees higher, but actually spun 271 rpm less than the KBS Tour shafts.

Stepping back from the numbers, I was impressed with how similar the feel was between the KBS Tour and FLT shafts. Yes, I could feel that the FLT shafts were more active in the tip with the 4 irons, but they felt nearly the same in the 6 irons. By the time I got to the pitching wedges, the two shafts were indistinguishable. The KBS Tour is considered one of the better-feeling iron shafts currently available, so KBS’ ability to replicate that feel in the FLT will be a plus for the majority of interested golfers.

Looking more broadly, trends in shaft design tends to go hand-in-hand with trends in club head design, and the FLT shafts are no exception. Equipment manufacturers continue to strengthen the lofts of their distance irons; they have to in order balance the launch equation, as their faster ball speeds create a higher launch angle and more spin.

While the improvements to iron design have allowed golfers to hit their mid and short irons farther, many golfers continue to struggle to hit their long irons high enough or consistently enough for them to be effective. And based on my testing results, it’s clear that the FLT shafts can make long irons more playable for certain golfers, and maybe even keep long irons in a golfer’s bag that might otherwise be kicked out for higher-flying hybrids or fairway woods.

As always, I recommend that golfers get properly fit for iron shafts, which means visiting a reputable club fitter in your area. So if you’re in the market for new irons or iron shafts, you can get started by going through KBS’ Online Fit System , which upon completion lists KBS-certified dealers in your area.

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Enhance Your Golf Performance With The KBS Tour Lite Shaft

Brenda draughn.

January 5, 2024

Improve your golf game with the KBS Tour Lite Shaft. Learn about its features, benefits , and how to choose the right flex for your swing. Compare it to other shaft options and read testimonials from professionals and customers.

What is a KBS Tour Lite Shaft?

The KBS Tour Lite Shaft is a high-performance golf shaft designed to enhance the performance of golfers of all skill levels. This shaft is specifically engineered for players who require a lighter weight shaft without sacrificing control and feel. With its innovative design and exceptional performance, the KBS Tour Lite Shaft has become a popular choice among golfers looking to improve their game.

Definition and Features

The KBS Tour Lite Shaft is crafted using the latest technology and premium materials to deliver outstanding performance on the golf course. This shaft is made from a combination of steel and graphite, resulting in a lightweight yet durable construction. The use of both materials allows for optimal weight distribution and increased stability during the swing.

One of the standout features of the KBS Tour Lite Shaft is its unique flex rating system . This system categorizes the shafts into different flex options, ranging from R (Regular) to X (Extra Stiff), allowing golfers to choose the flex that best suits their swing speed and playing style. This flexibility in selecting the right flex ensures that every golfer can achieve maximum performance and distance with the KBS Tour Lite Shaft.

Additionally, the KBS Tour Lite Shaft is designed with a low kick point, which promotes a higher launch angle and increased ball speed. This combination of a lightweight design and optimal kick point allows golfers to generate more distance and accuracy with their shots. Whether you’re a beginner or a seasoned pro, the KBS Tour Lite Shaft offers the perfect balance of power and control.

Benefits of Using KBS Tour Lite Shaft

Using the KBS Tour Lite Shaft can significantly improve your performance on the golf course. Here are some of the key of using this exceptional golf shaft:

Increased Distance and Accuracy : The lightweight design and optimal weight distribution of the KBS Tour Lite Shaft allow for increased swing speed and improved ball contact. This translates into longer distances off the tee and greater accuracy on approach shots. With this shaft in your hands, you’ll be able to hit the ball further and with more precision, giving you a competitive edge on the course.
Improved Control and Feel : The KBS Tour Lite Shaft offers exceptional control and feel, allowing golfers to confidently shape their shots and maneuver the ball with ease. The combination of the shaft’s flex rating system and low kick point provides a responsive and consistent feel throughout the swing. This level of control gives golfers the confidence to take on challenging shots and execute their desired shot shape.
Enhanced Launch and Trajectory : The KBS Tour Lite Shaft is specifically designed to optimize launch angle and trajectory. The low kick point of the shaft promotes a higher ball flight, enabling the ball to stay in the air longer and land softly on the green. This feature is particularly beneficial for players who struggle with generating enough height and distance with their irons. With the KBS Tour Lite Shaft, you’ll be able to hit higher, more penetrating shots that stop quickly on the green.

Performance of KBS Tour Lite Shaft

When it comes to the performance of the KBS Tour Lite Shaft, golfers can expect a range of benefits that can greatly enhance their game. This shaft is designed to provide increased distance and accuracy, improved control and feel, as well as enhanced launch and trajectory. Let’s take a closer look at each of these aspects.

Increased Distance and Accuracy

One of the key advantages of using the KBS Tour Lite Shaft is its ability to deliver increased distance and accuracy off the tee. The shaft is engineered with advanced materials and technology that promote a higher launch angle and lower spin rate, resulting in longer drives. By reducing the amount of spin, the ball is able to fly straighter and with less deviation, leading to improved accuracy.

Golfers who struggle with distance off the tee will find that the KBS Tour Lite Shaft can help them gain those extra yards without sacrificing control. The lightweight design of the shaft allows for increased swing speed, generating more power and distance. This combination of added distance and improved accuracy can make a significant difference in a golfer’s overall performance on the course.

Improved Control and Feel

In addition to increased distance and accuracy, the KBS Tour Lite Shaft also offers improved control and feel. The shaft’s design incorporates a softer flex profile, providing a responsive and consistent feel throughout the swing. This allows golfers to have better control over their shots, especially when it comes to shaping the ball flight.

The KBS Tour Lite Shaft’s responsive nature also enhances the golfer’s ability to feel the clubhead throughout the swing, allowing for better feedback and a more connected swing. This improved connection between the golfer and the club can result in more consistent strikes and better shot dispersion.

Enhanced Launch and Trajectory

Another notable feature of the KBS Tour Lite Shaft is its ability to enhance launch and trajectory. The shaft’s unique design promotes a higher launch angle, allowing the ball to get up in the air quickly and with ease. This can be particularly beneficial for golfers who struggle with getting the ball airborne or have a slower swing speed.

The KBS Tour Lite Shaft’s ability to produce a higher launch also contributes to improved trajectory control. Golfers can expect a more penetrating ball flight that cuts through the wind, providing better distance and accuracy even in challenging weather conditions. This combination of a higher launch and optimal trajectory can make a significant difference in a golfer’s ability to attack pins and score well on the course.

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Choosing the Right Flex for Your Swing

When it comes to selecting the right flex for your golf club shaft, it’s important to understand the flex rating system and consider various factors that can impact your swing. The flex of a golf shaft refers to its ability to bend and store energy during your swing, ultimately influencing the trajectory, accuracy, and distance of your shots.

Understanding the Flex Rating System

The flex rating system classifies shafts into different categories based on their stiffness. The most common flex ratings include L (Ladies), A (Senior), R (Regular), S (Stiff), and X (Extra Stiff). Each flex rating represents a specific range of stiffness, and it’s crucial to find the one that matches your swing characteristics.

To determine the right flex for your swing, it’s essential to consider your swing speed and swing tempo. Swing speed refers to how fast you swing the club, while swing tempo refers to the rhythm and timing of your swing. These two factors play a vital role in determining the ideal flex for your shaft.

If you have a slow swing speed and a smooth tempo, a softer flex such as L or A may be suitable for you. These flexes provide more flexion and allow for greater clubhead lag, generating more power and distance. On the other hand, if you have a fast swing speed and an aggressive tempo, a stiffer flex like S or X will provide the necessary stability and control for your swing.

Another factor to consider is your ball flight preference. Do you tend to hit the ball low, high, or somewhere in between? This can influence your choice of flex as well. For example, if you have a low ball flight, a stiffer flex may help you achieve a higher trajectory, while a softer flex can help you lower the ball flight if you tend to hit it too high.

Factors to Consider when Selecting Flex

In addition to swing speed, swing tempo, and ball flight preference, there are a few other factors to consider when selecting the flex for your golf club shaft. These include your physical strength, skill level, and personal preference.

Physical strength plays a significant role in determining the appropriate flex for your swing. If you have above-average strength, you may be able to handle a stiffer flex with ease. On the other hand, if you have limited strength or are a beginner, a softer flex may be more forgiving and easier to control.

Skill level is another crucial factor to consider. As a beginner, you may benefit from a more flexible shaft that helps you generate more power and distance. As you progress and improve your swing mechanics, you may find that a stiffer flex provides better control and consistency.

Lastly, personal preference should not be overlooked. Some golfers simply prefer the feel and feedback of a specific flex, regardless of their swing characteristics. It’s important to try out different flexes and see which one suits your game and provides the desired performance.

Installation and Maintenance of KBS Tour Lite Shaft

When it comes to the installation and maintenance of your KBS Tour Lite Shaft, it’s important to follow proper techniques to ensure optimal performance and longevity. Additionally, implementing the right cleaning and care instructions will help you maintain the quality of your shaft over time.

Proper Installation Techniques

Properly installing your KBS Tour Lite Shaft is crucial for achieving the best results on the golf course. Here are some techniques to keep in mind:

Preparation : Before installing the shaft, make sure you have all the necessary tools and equipment. This includes a shaft puller, epoxy, grip solvent, grip tape, and a vise. Having these items ready will streamline the installation process.
Shaft Alignment : It’s important to align the shaft correctly before installation. This involves ensuring that the spine of the shaft is positioned correctly, as it can affect the performance and consistency of your shots. Use a spine alignment tool or consult with a professional club fitter to determine the optimal position.
Applying Epoxy : Epoxy is used to bond the shaft to the clubhead securely. Apply a generous amount of epoxy to the tip of the shaft and inside the hosel of the clubhead. Ensure that the epoxy is evenly distributed to create a strong bond.
Insertion and Alignment : Carefully insert the shaft into the hosel, ensuring that it is aligned properly with the clubhead. Gently twist the shaft to ensure a snug fit. Use a shaft alignment tool to verify that the shaft is correctly aligned with the clubface.
Curing and Finishing : Once the shaft is properly inserted, wipe off any excess epoxy and use a curing agent or heat gun to speed up the curing process. Allow the epoxy to fully cure before proceeding. Finally, install the grip according to your preference using grip tape and grip solvent.

Following these proper installation techniques will help you achieve optimal performance and stability with your KBS Tour Lite Shaft.

Cleaning and Care Instructions

Maintaining the cleanliness and quality of your KBS Tour Lite Shaft is essential for its longevity and performance. Here are some cleaning and care instructions to keep in mind:

Regular Inspection : Before and after each round of golf, inspect your shaft for any signs of damage, such as cracks or dents. Pay close attention to the grip area, as it can wear out over time. If you notice any issues, it’s best to address them promptly to prevent further damage.
Cleaning : To clean your shaft, use a soft cloth or towel dampened with mild soap and water. Gently wipe the shaft, paying extra attention to the grip area. Avoid using harsh chemicals or abrasive materials that may damage the shaft’s finish.
Drying : After cleaning, make sure to dry the shaft thoroughly using a dry cloth or towel. Moisture can seep into the shaft, potentially causing damage or corrosion. Allow the shaft to air dry completely before storing or using it.
Storage : When not in use, store your KBS Tour Lite Shaft in a cool, dry place. Avoid storing it in extreme temperatures or humid environments, as this can affect the integrity of the shaft. Additionally, consider using a shaft cover or protective sleeve to prevent any accidental damage.
Avoiding Impact : While the KBS Tour Lite Shaft is designed to withstand the rigors of the game, it’s important to avoid unnecessary impact or abuse. Be mindful of banging or dropping your clubs, as this can cause damage to the shaft or clubhead.

By following these cleaning and care instructions, you can ensure that your KBS Tour Lite Shaft remains in excellent condition, delivering consistent performance round after round.

Comparing KBS Tour Lite Shaft to Other Shaft Options

When it comes to choosing the right golf shaft for your game, it’s important to consider the differences in weight and flexibility, as well as the performance characteristics of different options. In this section, we will compare the KBS Tour Lite Shaft to other shaft options in these aspects.

Differences in Weight and Flexibility

One of the key factors to consider when comparing golf shafts is their weight. The KBS Tour Lite Shaft is specifically designed to be lighter than standard shafts, making it a popular choice for players who prefer a lighter feel. The lighter weight allows for increased clubhead speed, which can lead to greater distance off the tee.

In contrast, other shaft options may be heavier, which can provide added stability and control. These shafts are often favored by players who prioritize accuracy and consistency in their shots. The weight of a golf shaft ultimately comes down to personal preference and individual swing characteristics. It’s important to find the right balance that suits your game.

Flexibility is another important aspect to consider. The KBS Tour Lite Shaft offers a mid-to-low flex point, providing a balance between control and power. This flex profile allows for a smooth and responsive feel throughout the swing, promoting optimal energy transfer and generating distance.

On the other hand, other shaft options may have different flex profiles, ranging from softer to stiffer. A softer shaft can help players with slower swing speeds generate more clubhead speed, while a stiffer shaft can offer better control for those with faster swing speeds. Again, finding the right flex for your swing is crucial in maximizing your performance on the course.

Comparing Performance Characteristics

Apart from weight and flexibility, the performance characteristics of a golf shaft can greatly impact your game. The KBS Tour Lite Shaft is known for its ability to increase both distance and accuracy. The lighter weight allows for faster clubhead speed, resulting in longer drives. At the same time, the mid-to-low flex point provides stability and control, helping you hit your target consistently.

Other shaft options may offer different performance characteristics. For example, some shafts may prioritize control and feel over distance. These shafts are often favored by players who value precision and shot shaping ability. On the other hand, there are shafts designed to maximize distance, ideal for players looking to gain extra yardage off the tee.

It’s important to note that the performance characteristics of a golf shaft can vary depending on factors such as swing speed, swing tempo, and overall skill level. What works for one player may not work for another. Therefore, it’s crucial to try out different shaft options and see which one suits your game the best.

Testimonials and Reviews of KBS Tour Lite Shaft

When it comes to assessing the performance and quality of a golf shaft, there is no better way than to look at the testimonials and reviews from professional golfers and customers. The KBS Tour Lite Shaft has received immense praise and positive feedback from both groups, highlighting its exceptional features and benefits.

Professional Golfer Feedback

Professional golfers, who rely on their equipment for optimal performance, have been highly impressed with the KBS Tour Lite Shaft. Many have chosen to use it in their clubs and have experienced significant improvements in their game.

One of the key aspects that professional golfers appreciate about the KBS Tour Lite Shaft is its ability to provide increased distance and accuracy. With this shaft, they have observed longer shots off the tee and more precise shots on the fairway. The lightweight construction and optimized flex profile of the shaft contribute to this enhanced performance, allowing golfers to achieve greater distance without sacrificing control .

In addition to improved distance and accuracy, professional golfers have also praised the KBS Tour Lite Shaft for its exceptional control and feel. The shaft’s unique design and materials offer a responsive and consistent feel, allowing golfers to have better control over their shots. This level of control is especially important when it comes to approach shots and shots around the green, where precision is crucial.

Furthermore, the KBS Tour Lite Shaft has been credited with providing an enhanced launch and trajectory. The optimized weight distribution and flex profile of the shaft promote a higher launch, enabling golfers to achieve more consistent and desirable ball flight. This is particularly beneficial when playing in various weather conditions or when trying to navigate challenging course layouts.

Overall, the professional golfer feedback on the KBS Tour Lite Shaft is overwhelmingly positive. The shaft’s ability to deliver increased distance, improved control, and enhanced launch and trajectory has made it a popular choice among professionals who are looking to optimize their performance on the golf course.

Customer Reviews and Experiences

Not only have professional golfers praised the KBS Tour Lite Shaft, but customers from all skill levels have also shared their positive experiences with this exceptional golf shaft. Let’s take a closer look at some of their reviews and testimonials.

Customers have expressed their satisfaction with the increased distance they have achieved when using the KBS Tour Lite Shaft. This improvement has allowed them to hit longer shots and reach greens with greater ease. The combination of a lightweight design and optimized flex profile has been particularly beneficial for beginners and players with slower swing speeds, as it helps generate more clubhead speed and transfer more energy to the ball.

Furthermore, customers have reported a significant improvement in their accuracy and consistency with the KBS Tour Lite Shaft. The shaft’s unique construction minimizes unwanted vibrations and provides a stable feel throughout the swing, resulting in more precise shots. This level of control has been praised by golfers of all skill levels, as it allows them to better shape their shots and hit targets with greater accuracy.

Another aspect that customers appreciate about the KBS Tour Lite Shaft is its durability and longevity. The high-quality materials used in its construction ensure that it can withstand the rigors of regular play without compromising its performance. This durability, combined with the ease of maintenance and care, makes the KBS Tour Lite Shaft a reliable and long-lasting investment for golfers.

Overall, customers have expressed their satisfaction with the KBS Tour Lite Shaft, highlighting its ability to deliver increased distance, improved accuracy, and exceptional durability. Their positive experiences serve as a testament to the quality and performance of this golf shaft.

In conclusion, the testimonials and reviews from professional golfers and customers alike demonstrate the outstanding performance and quality of the KBS Tour Lite Shaft. Its ability to deliver increased distance, improved control, enhanced launch and trajectory, and exceptional durability have made it a top choice among golfers of all skill levels. Whether you’re a professional golfer looking to elevate your game or a weekend warrior aiming to improve your performance, the KBS Tour Lite Shaft is an excellent option to consider.

KBS C-Taper Iron Shaft Review

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The KBS C-Taper iron shaft is amazingly accurate, responsive, and easy to control. Low spin and stout feel make it a “must test” before installing.

Introduction

I’ll go ahead and say it: the KBS C-Taper is not an iron shaft for the faint of heart, but man , is it a killer shaft. While low launch and low spin shafts generally feel stout and boardy, the C-Taper feels firm, direct, and smooth. Golfer beware, the C-Taper is going to be very low launching with very low spin , but we like to say “you can hit a 4 iron down a long hallway” with it.

In a world where the only thing differentiating the look of a steel shaft is its label and whether or not it has steps, the KBS C-Taper has a much different appearance and texture than typically found in a set of irons. The finish is a matte or brushed silver giving the shaft more of an industrial look as opposed to the usual sleek chrome look of a steel shaft. The shaft is stepless and has larger shaft labels than the usual small KBS rectangle.

I believe the hallmark of the KBS C-Taper is its exceptional feel. The C-Taper is easily one of the most stable shafts on the market with an extremely stiff tip section but a smooth overall feel . Most shafts with similar characteristics tend to come off boardy, dead, and difficult to play with a lack of any “action.” The C-Taper is exactly the opposite. You still get the feeling of unloading the shaft but with extreme control and response making for more accurate shots. One of the best parts of the C-Taper is the range of playability. What I mean is that the shaft performs well on a smooth light swing and holds up great on a faster and more aggressive swing which would commonly result in a loss of control.

Of course, as we always say, it’s important to get fit and test the C-Taper first. Many players find the C-Taper to play stiff to flex and have to make some equipment adjustments to maximize the performance of the shaft. I originally played an extra stiff set and really struggled. I wasn’t buying the C-Taper hype. Then I went down to the Stiff+ (between stiff and extra stiff) and really unlocked the benefits of the shaft and became a believer. For my money, there are fewer better feeling steel iron shafts out there .

Performance

To the point of getting fit for the KBS C-Taper being an absolute requirement, this is extremely apparent in the performance of the shaft. I really don’t think you’ll find anyone that would argue the C-Taper isn’t a low, piercing shaft with very little spin. The degree of these characteristics is going to change depending on the iron head and the player of course, but getting the right setup in your clubs is going to be crucial . When I played the aforementioned extra stiff set of C-Tapers, I was hitting the lowest flying shots I’ve ever hit through the entire set and nothing would hold a green. I was struggling to get wedges to come down and hold. When I switched to the lighter flex I saw a very strong improvement. My ball flight was low but it had more carry and drop and less of a parabolic flight. I also saw improvement in spin where my shorter irons were stopping on greens and the longer irons had more appropriate rollout.

Flight and spin aside, the KBS C-Taper is easily in the top three most accurate iron shafts I’ve ever hit in terms of choosing a target line and hitting it. It almost feels like you lock in on the line you want to hit the ball and it’s like shooting a laser right at it. Of course, you still have to get shape, distance, and location correct, but hitting on your intended line almost feels built into the shaft.

We’re very big fans of the way the KBS C-Taper plays here, but it’s important to make sure you get the right fit in your irons or else it can be a lot of shaft to contend with and difficult to tame. If you get the combination right, you’ll be playing some of the most accurate iron shots you’ve ever hit with low spin, flight, and exceptional feel.

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I’ve been playing Mizuno MP H5’s since March of this year…with the KBS Tour C-Taper Lite 105 R shafts with the silver finish. Love the clubs and shafts, BUT I’ve recently noticed a lot of light rusty-looking spots in the finish of the shafts. Can’t feel anything on the surface of the shaft, but I’m concerned about what is happening. I’ve played about 105 rounds in that time frame (plus a whole lot of practice sessions), and the clubs are stored in my locker at a TPC facility. None of my Vokey wedges stored in the same golf bag (Sun Mountain H2NO stand bag) show any signs of shaft rust.

Would appreciate any constructive comments you can make. Thanks for your help!

Unfortunately I won’t be much help. Your best bet is to contact KBS or speak with your local KBS dealer.

I am looking at buying a set of taylormade 2017 m2 irons with these shafts,I hit the ball jason day high and i dont want to lose that because i think it looks cool,what would be a good mid flight shaft for these clubs or do u think i could use these.

Wait, I need some clarification around “because it looks cool.” So you could have a more optimal performance with a lower flight, but you prefer what looks cool? I’m really just trying to clarify the question, I know it has to read more negative than I intend it.

I’ve struggled with feeling as if my iron shots balloon and have a lot of spin, which makes playing in any type of wind extremely difficult. I’m considering trying these shafts to help combat those undesirable characteristics, but I’m worried about not being able to hold firm greens. How much harder do iron shots land with these shafts?

There’s no way to answer that universally. If you’re having problems with spin, I would suggest working with a good club fitter to find a better shaft.

Good day Bill

Taking in consideration the iron head / shaft ratio… will the KBS C-Taper stiff shaft performance work on a Titleist AP1 iron head. Or is it to much shaft for the club?

Bill is not writing for PIG at this time, so I’ll answer for him. There’s no reason the C-Taper couldn’t work with the AP1 as long as the combination fits your swing.

Hi, I’m thinking of getting these with the 718 CB titleist clubs? What are your thoughts?

If they fit your swing, it’s a great shaft. I would make sure I spent some time with a quality club fitter before I spent over $1,000 on a new set of irons.

Hi, I’m currently using the C-Taper 130X but I’m finding my ball flight a bit low with the 4,5 and 6 iron. Would it be a good idea to change the shaft in these to an C-Taper 120s or 125s+ to help with higher launch and less roll out?

It’s certainly worth testing out, but going softer can also lead to issues. I’d suggest working with a fitter to find a solution to the ball flight issues.

I replaced Project X 6.0 Flighted in my Callaway prototypes with Ctaper 120S soft stepped one time. Talking about shooting darts with lasers is an understatement. I highly recommend if someone is looking to play this shaft to get the correct flex and even look into soft stepping.

I have both C Taper lite 110 and the 130 X stiff. Best iron shafts I’ve ever hit. I was hitting the lite decent but I figured I would have control issues considering my swing speed is roughly 123. Found the 130 C tapers and now putting in the heads I like. Like waking up to Christmas every day.

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I can agree with the bit about the ball falling down right at the target. It’s unreal how accurate these shafts are. I just got a set of ping i210s with ctaper s+ shafts and they are pure as anything. I actually am launching the ball a lot higher but they aren’t spinny at all. I was lasering 9 irons at the range yesterday to the 155 flag and the trajectory was awesome they just shoot right up to the apex, fall straight down and sit! Awesome shafts

I’m curious what your swing speed with a 6 iron is. I recently got fitted and bought the c taper x 130 with jpx921 forged heads. I have 96 to 97 swing speed with 6iron and was unfittingly playing true temper stiff 105 shafts. The new c taper x 130s feel a bit heavy and stiff, especially with the longer irons(launch and spin seems good). Is it something I need to get used to coming from and ultra lite shaft or should I think about going down the the S+? I believe I have a 90 days period to make adjustments through club champion.

I’m in the low 90s with a 6I. You’ve added a lot of weight and stiffness, so I would give the change some time. I’m a big proponent of trusting what happened in the fitting rather than getting overly concerned about a couple bad sessions with new clubs.

currently playing brigdestone j 40 with kbs tour 130x looking to purchase titelist t100s with kbs ctapers plus 125 how does this set up sound

If it fits you, it sounds great. The T100 is a great iron.

Are these 370 parallel or 355 taper tip! Has anyone talked about ball fitting for spin flight and dispersion since everyone seems to be hitting bullseyes! I picked up a set of C-taper 130x on eBay and will soft step these monster’s from your view and many other blog’s! They are going in my 1958/59 Hogan Saber Sunburst that has never been shafted! As for weight I feel like it’s just a getting use to period as you explained! In the 90’s my student put in graffaloy x blues and might as well of hit with a telephone pole ! So weight was of no concern since the ball goes exactly where the left wrist is at impact for a right handed swing and vice-versa for a left handed swing! I have a trap draw and feel like I’m hitting down a bit much at times that this will help with feel throughout my turn! I will give a reporter’s view of missed the cut at the Beamer by —— that much!

If I soft step a set of C-taper 130X, how would it compare to the 125S+ shafts?

It would be quite close.

Im thinking of getting the callaway rogue pro with Kbs Ctaper 110 R shafts…. a good combination for a 10 – 12 handicapper?

If you were fit for that combo and it worked in the fitting, I’d say it’s a good one.

I am a fairly beginner golfer. I’ve been playing the last year pretty much every other weekend. I currently use Titleist DCI that got me started & looking to purchase the Titleist T300 4-P with the C-Taper shaft. My driver is good & putting is solid, but iron game is hit or miss. I’m currently hitting about 100 on the course but looking to upgrade. Any advice would be great!!

I would strongly recommend that you get fit before buying new irons. The C-Taper is a very extreme shaft; it’s not a fit for the majority of golfers.

I put the C Taper shaft in a set of 1980 “The Haig” heads. I must say they are smoooooooth feeling. Also get excellent ball flight and spin. Not over spinning, but checking nicely. I’m thinking of doing another set of Wilson button backs as well. Experimental mix of vintage heads and newer shafts seems to be a sweet Combo. Do you know if this is a common thing to do? Thanks!

I don’t know that it’s common, but it’s something I see every now and again when I’m at Club Champion – a player who loves their old heads but uses modern shafts to optimize them.

I’m curious, would the C-Taper be considered a high balance point shaft? Are there other shafts that would be considered to have a higher BP than the C-Taper? Thanks.

It’s been quite a while since I wrote this review or gamed the C-Taper. I don’t recall it being particularly counterbalanced.

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High balance point iron shafts.

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Im not that familiar with lighter shafts like this, so the only shaft that comes to my mind here is not Graphite, but Steelfiber i 70 CW thats 70 grams. (ive put a YELLOW mark on this BP chart)

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I'm sorry to say I don't think you're going to have a lot of luck with that search. High balance point shaft designs in wood shafts are exclusively driven by the push for managing swing weight as th

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4 hours ago, st1800e said: Played this season with Kuro Kage HBP shafts in my woods, a marked improvement over anything I’ve had. Searched for and haven’t found any graphite iron shafts for purchase that are designated as HBP. I’d be looking for something lightweight, 60-70 grams, higher torque and a mid high flight. Anyone know if such a thing exists?

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9 hours ago, Howard_Jones said: Im not that familiar with lighter shafts like this, so the only shaft that comes to my mind here is not Graphite, but Steelfiber i 70 CW thats 70 grams.

Howard, thanks for that, I’ll have a look at them.

4 hours ago, dmeeksDC said: KBS PGI or TGI?

Appreciate the suggestion, based on what I’ve read they are a lower balance point shaft.

Thoroughbrewed

Mitsubishi MMT's would probably be right up your alley. Lightweight, high torque and mid/high ball flight with a mid to mid/high kick point. I just had a set of 70's in my irons but I am moving to something heavier. They are fantastic shafts and really perform!

On 1/2/2023 at 11:13 PM, st1800e said: Searched for and haven’t found any graphite iron shafts for purchase that are designated as HBP.

I'm sorry to say I don't think you're going to have a lot of luck with that search. High balance point shaft designs in wood shafts are exclusively driven by the push for managing swing weight as the stock playing lengths in the driver get longer and longer. It's just not a problem that shaft designers have needed to address in the iron shafts nor has there been much demand for it.

The only significantly high balance point iron shaft that I've ever run into was the steelfiber i110 - and I think that was more a fluke than a an intended result.

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On 1/3/2023 at 3:52 AM, Howard_Jones said: Im not that familiar with lighter shafts like this, so the only shaft that comes to my mind here is not Graphite, but Steelfiber i 70 CW thats 70 grams. (ive put a YELLOW mark on this BP chart)

Where did you find this chart? Anyone know what's below the KBS Tour?

2 hours ago, spncrn said: Where did you find this chart? Anyone know what's below the KBS Tour?

It’s Howard’s chart and data from his studio fitting days. He has loads of spreadsheets like this one (various measurements and categorical comparisons) and they’re all fantastic resources. I wish I could clone that dude’s HD. Or at least get copies of all of his build spreadsheets and databases. I’ve never seen anyone document builds like he did. Meticulous is an understatement.

There’s nothing below the KBS Tour, at least in this particular case, not necessarily because it doesn’t exist, but because that is the full extent of the shaft models he measured/documented. Long story short, there’s no accessible website or database that contains an extended version of that information.

On 1/2/2023 at 9:13 PM, st1800e said: Played this season with Kuro Kage HBP shafts in my woods, a marked improvement over anything I’ve had. Searched for and haven’t found any graphite iron shafts for purchase that are designated as HBP. I’d be looking for something lightweight, 60-70 grams, higher torque and a mid high flight. Anyone know if such a thing exists?

In case anyone is interested, I didn’t find any shafts that fit the bill. So I bought some Ping Alta CB graphite pull-outs , only a few games, but they appear to be working well.

7 hours ago, spncrn said: Where did you find this chart? Anyone know what's below the KBS Tour?

I make most charts myself, since the subject i want datas for is NOT available from any public sources, so lots of it was either for use in the work shop, or as educational items for my club fitting and club making students. In this case the datas for BP comes from a shaft database, and there is no iron shafts to my knowledge that has a higher BP than KBS Tour.

4 hours ago, MFBach said: It’s Howard’s chart and data from his studio fitting days. He has loads of spreadsheets like this one (various measurements and categorical comparisons) and they’re all fantastic resources. I wish I could clone that dude’s HD. Or at least get copies of all of his build spreadsheets and databases. I’ve never seen anyone document builds like he did. Meticulous is an understatement. There’s nothing below the KBS Tour, at least in this particular case, not necessarily because it doesn’t exist, but because that is the full extent of the shaft models he measured/documented. Long story short, there’s no accessible website or database that contains an extended version of that information.

WOW....but yes i did document everything down to the smallest details, as long as i had the tools to measure it, but my ambitions was nothing less than making better clubs for the best players out there, and then this details matters. Maybe the most important observation i made was, the closer to the players ideal we get, the more sensitive he becomes for even the smallest changes. Then we need full control of this small details others often overlook, like how hosel specs make a shaft to play different in one head ws the other

10 hours ago, Howard_Jones said: WOW....but yes i did document everything down to the smallest details, as long as i had the tools to measure it, but my ambitions was nothing less than making better clubs for the best players out there, and then this details matters. Maybe the most important observation i made was, the closer to the players ideal we get, the more sensitive he becomes for even the smallest changes. Then we need full control of this small details others often overlook, like how hosel specs make a shaft to play different in one head ws the other

As an amateur, it’s nice to know there are builders out there that really know their stuff AND put in the effort for their customers, but even among professional builders, the depth of detail and understanding you provide is pretty unique. At least in my experience.

I completely agree that even minor details can have a significant influence in results, which is why I enjoy looking over the data you post. I’m not sure that being a better builder has made me a better golfer, but it is nice to know why I’m doing something and how it affects the final product. Most builders wouldn’t know or care enough to document and experiment the way you did, especially when it comes to those minor details, so it’s great to have that kind of resource available here.

Anyway, didn’t mean to derail the thread, but it’s good to have you around!

That's amazing @Howard_Jones - Thank you for this!

It's been a year long journey to find a shaft setup that works.

I recently put a KBS tour X 130g in my 6 iron and it dropped the swing weight by 2 points even though it's 15g heavier - thank goodness!

18 minutes ago, spncrn said: That's amazing @Howard_Jones - Thank you for this! It's been a year long journey to find a shaft setup that works. I recently put a KBS tour X 130g in my 6 iron and it dropped the swing weight by 2 points even though it's 15g heavier - thank goodness!

2 SWP vs what shaft?

On 3/30/2023 at 7:58 PM, st1800e said: In case anyone is interested, I didn’t find any shafts that fit the bill. So I bought some Ping Alta CB graphite pull-outs , only a few games, but they appear to be working well.

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10 minutes ago, Snowman9000 said: The UST iRN shaft is high balance point and fits the other specs. I play it.

Hi, interesting, how did you determine it’s a High balanced point shaft?

3 minutes ago, st1800e said: Hi, interesting, how did you determine it’s a High balanced point shaft?

5 months later...

Just got Miura KM-700's. +0.5" (6i is 38.00") with Proj X 6.0's and they came out SW of D7. They feel too heavy. I would like he SW down around D2.. D3 max. What shaft would you recommend? Thanks!

8 minutes ago, Mtj444 said: Just got Miura KM-700's. +0.5" (6i is 38.00") with Proj X 6.0's and they came out SW of D7. They feel too heavy. I would like he SW down around D2.. D3 max. What shaft would you recommend? Thanks!

As mentioned above, the Steelfiber i110's are the only shaft I've ever run across of that can reduce the swing weight more than 1 pt. With those, you might get it down to D3-4. And that's assuming the lighter shaft weight (compared to the PX) doesn't cause any problems with your swing.

So basically shafts are not the way to go about reducing swing weight with irons like they can be in some cases with woods. You need to either reduce the length (use shorter length increments like 3/8" instead of 1/2") or find a way to get the heads lighter - most commonly by drilling material out of the bottom of the hosel. That way you might be able to bring down the swing weight between 3-5 pts.

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5 hours ago, Stuart_G said: As mentioned above, the Steelfiber i110's are the only shaft I've ever run across of that can reduce the swing weight more than 1 pt. With those, you might get it down to D3-4. And that's assuming the lighter shaft weight (compared to the PX) doesn't cause any problems with your swing. So basically shafts are not the way to go about reducing swing weight with irons like they can be in some cases with woods. You need to either reduce the length (use shorter length increments like 3/8" instead of 1/2") or find a way to get the heads lighter - most commonly by drilling material out of the bottom of the hosel. That way you might be able to bring down the swing weight between 3-5 pts.

I have no idea if this will actually work, just repeating what I've read here, but aren't some of the LA Golf irons shafts also supposed to swingweight out exceptionally light? Thought I remembered reading about people complaining they installed this shaft, and were finding uber-light SWs like C6 or so? Search could probably dig that up if so.

(The irony here is I have a set of L-series pulls I've been waiting to swap in---stupid elbow pain---and verify this for myself, but I just haven't had the time.)

3 hours ago, Jayjay_theweim_guy said: I have no idea if this will actually work, just repeating what I've read here, but aren't some of the LA Golf irons shafts also supposed to swingweight out exceptionally light? Thought I remembered reading about people complaining they installed this shaft, and were finding uber-light SWs like C6 or so? Search could probably dig that up if so. (The irony here is I have a set of L-series pulls I've been waiting to swap in---stupid elbow pain---and verify this for myself, but I just haven't had the time.)

Yes! I can't remember which model it was. Build was for Vokey wedges and they barely made it to D0 in standard length.

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10 hours ago, Jayjay_theweim_guy said: I have no idea if this will actually work, just repeating what I've read here, but aren't some of the LA Golf irons shafts also supposed to swingweight out exceptionally light?

It's possible. I've never used any of their shafts (nor do I ever expect to - but that's a different topic).

3 months later...

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I've been looking into a few things recently and the answer for OP appears to be anything related to Shimada.

At the moment I'm using Oban CT 115's (made by Shimada) which i knew had a high BP but started looking for some actual data. The original launch video said how Oban were looking to extend their HB concept into irons and had incorporated that into the design. Looking at Russ Rydens data chart on the CT 115, he has the balance point for the blanks in the 52.7 to 53% range making them even higher balance point than the KBS range. But he also has most Shimada shafts showing as being +2" balance point which is higher still and would make them comfortably the highest balance point shafts out there if that was correct.

I'm about to look at switching my CT115's into a set that currently has Modus 105s so will be interesting to see the SW drop there going up in balance point by about 2.25%, I'm guessing around 2sw points.

2 hours ago, Pleasedwith3putts said: I've been looking into a few things recently and the answer for OP appears to be anything related to Shimada. At the moment I'm using Oban CT 115's (made by Shimada) which i knew had a high BP but started looking for some actual data. The original launch video said how Oban were looking to extend their HB concept into irons and had incorporated that into the design. Looking at Russ Rydens data chart on the CT 115, he has the balance point for the blanks in the 52.7 to 53% range making them even higher balance point than the KBS range. But he also has most Shimada shafts showing as being +2" balance point which is higher still and would make them comfortably the highest balance point shafts out there if that was correct. I'm about to look at switching my CT115's into a set that currently has Modus 105s so will be interesting to see the SW drop there going up in balance point by about 2.25%, I'm guessing around 2sw points.

KBS is able to get the balance point up by having weak tips which results in lots of bent shafts. I wonder if these will have the same issue or if they get around that somehow.

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5 hours ago, Pleasedwith3putts said: I've been looking into a few things recently and the answer for OP appears to be anything related to Shimada. At the moment I'm using Oban CT 115's (made by Shimada) which i knew had a high BP but started looking for some actual data. The original launch video said how Oban were looking to extend their HB concept into irons and had incorporated that into the design. Looking at Russ Rydens data chart on the CT 115, he has the balance point for the blanks in the 52.7 to 53% range making them even higher balance point than the KBS range. But he also has most Shimada shafts showing as being +2" balance point which is higher still and would make them comfortably the highest balance point shafts out there if that was correct. I'm about to look at switching my CT115's into a set that currently has Modus 105s so will be interesting to see the SW drop there going up in balance point by about 2.25%, I'm guessing around 2sw points.

OP here, my question was about graphite shafts, not steel. But thanks anyways.

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LA Golf L series seems like it checks off the boxes of what you're looking for? Likely soft stepped as much as possible because they do play a bit stiff.

On 9/4/2023 at 1:37 PM, Stuart_G said: As mentioned above, the Steelfiber i110's are the only shaft I've ever run across of that can reduce the swing weight more than 1 pt. With those, you might get it down to D3-4. And that's assuming the lighter shaft weight (compared to the PX) doesn't cause any problems with your swing. So basically shafts are not the way to go about reducing swing weight with irons like they can be in some cases with woods. You need to either reduce the length (use shorter length increments like 3/8" instead of 1/2") or find a way to get the heads lighter - most commonly by drilling material out of the bottom of the hosel. That way you might be able to bring down the swing weight between 3-5 pts.

Use a heavier grip. Changing grips based on weight is the easiest way to move swing weights around on built clubs.

14 minutes ago, johnnyb123 said: Use a heavier grip. Changing grips based on weight is the easiest way to move swing weights around on built clubs.

For the purpose of playing golf that won't solve anything beyond tricking the swing weight scale.

It's been 6 months since the poster asked about bringing SW down. They could change shafts as suggested by a few to high balance models like Steelfiber for LA Golf, but if they fit into PX 6.0 that may or may not create other issues. If this person really doesn't want a high swing weight with half inch over-length clubs then they should really be reconsidering playing Miura heads.

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2 hours ago, johnnyb123 said: Use a heavier grip. Changing grips based on weight is the easiest way to move swing weights around on built clubs.

2 hours ago, PNW said: For the purpose of playing golf that won't solve anything beyond tricking the swing weight scale.

This. Changing grips based on weight is the easiest way to produce a reading on a scale that was never designed to account for that variable. It's a persistent myth that does not produce results in line with the readings.

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