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Published: Apr 28, 2024, 07:47 IST

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Tata Motors is planning to set foot in India’s seven-seater EV SUV market with the launch of Safari EV (an extended version of the Harrier EV). This EV will be built on Tata’s new Acti.EV platform, is set to revolutionize the electric SUV segment with its expected driving range of around 500 km on a single charge.

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The test mule of the Safari EV was spotted recently. Even though the test car was highly camouflaged, it could be made out that it features a design similar to that of its ICE-powered counterpart but without the exhaust pipe.

The Safari EV’s test mule was also spotted earlier. Now, let’s start with the details of this upcoming EV. In terms of design, the overall look remains the same as the ICE Safari. Similar to the regular version, the Safari EV features connected LED DRLs, slightly redesigned 19-inch alloy wheels, and connected LED taillights.

The recent spy shots do not reveal the interior of the SUV, but the inside of the Safari EV is expected to offer a cabin layout similar to that of the standard Safari. The Safari EV will feature a four-spoke steering wheel with an illuminated logo, a 12.3-inch touchscreen infotainment system, and a similar climate control system.

Also, premium features such as a 10.25-inch digital driver’s display, ventilated seats, JBL sound system, rear sunshades, a gesture-controlled powered tailgate, and a panoramic sunroof will be offered. The Safari EV will offer advanced features such as vehicle-to-load (V2L) and vehicle-to-vehicle (V2V) charging, allowing the SUV to charge other devices or EVs.

Safety remains a top priority, with the Safari EV equipped with seven airbags, ABS with EBD, electronic stability control, and an Advanced Driver Assistance System (ADAS). Other features, such as a tyre pressure monitoring system (TPMS), 360-degree camera, front parking sensors, reverse parking sensors, traction control, hill descent control and many more, will also be available.

No details regarding the powertrain specifications are yet available. However, some reports suggest it could offer a 60 kWh battery pack that will deliver a driving range of up to 500 km. If this happens, it will set a new benchmark in the Indian EV segment. Additionally, the Safari EV could be offered in both front-wheel drive (FWD) and all-wheel drive (AWD) variants.

The Tata Safari EV is anticipated to launch in early 2025 with a starting price of around Rs 32 lakh (ex-showroom). Upon launch, it will compete with rivals such as the MG ZS EV, BYD Atto 3, and upcoming offerings such as the Hyundai Creta EV and Maruti eVX.

The Safari EV, along with the upcoming Harrier EV, will join Tata’s existing lineup of EVs, which includes Nexon EV, Tiago EV, Tigor EV, and Punch EV. In addition to this, Tata has plans to launch Altroz EV, Sierra EV, and the Curvv EV in the near future. With these new launches, Tata aims to capture a fair share of the Indian EV market by providing buyers with an EV in every segment.

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The Grand Design

The new safari showcases an artistic sensibility that’s sophisticated, assertive and way ahead of its time

• New Parametric Grille

First impressions should always leave an indelible mark. The New Safari’s Parametric Grille is designed to do just that. It makes the frontal stance bolder and masculine, captivating the onlooker instantly.

Bi-LED Projector Head Lamp

Experience the elegance and enhanced visibility of the new powerful Bi-LED lamps in the new Safari. Light up the road as you move ahead.

Sequential LED DRLs & Centre Position Lamp

Let the world notice your presence, and be mighty impressed, with it. The New LED DRLs and Centre position lamp accentuate the road presence of your New Safari elevating its overall appeal.

• Signature Connected LED Tail Lamp

Now your goodbyes, too, will be hard to forget. The beauty with which you leave will keep your admirers wanting for more, waiting for you to make an entry and get going again.

• New R19 Dual Tone Spider Alloys

Made to rule the road, these alloys add to the masculine persona of the New Safari. The aero inserts are thoughtfully integrated to enhance the aerodynamics and all-round aesthetics.

• Signature Safari Mascot on doors

Owning a Safari is a matter of pride. Now be reminded of it every time you get in or out. And feel great about taking the legacy forward.

• Iconic Roof Rails with Chrome Inserts

Leave an unforgettable impression with our iconic roof rails. They not only highlight the SUV's design but also bestow it with a commanding, masculine presence.

• Bi-LED Projector Headlamps
• End to End Connected LED DRL

• Oyster White & Titan Brown Interior Theme

The rich yet subtle interior theme elevates the whole Safari experience to another level. A delight to the senses, it makes you feel that the best the world has to offer is all around you, in your New Safari.

Persona Based Dashboard with Mood Lighting

Uniquely elegant and luxurious aesthetic of the Dashboard elevates the ambience of Your Safari.  Persona based interior theme to offer a unique experience.

• New Dual Tone 4 Spoke Steering Wheel with Illuminated Logo

Hold it, and you'll be transported to the future. The new steering comes with illuminated Logo & Leather wrapped to make your drive experience premium.

• Benecke Kaliko Oyster White Leatherette Seats

Reserved only for you, these ultra-premium Leatherette seats come with deco stitch that elegantly ties comfort with style.

• Persona Based interior themes

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The Safest Space

Everything that the new safari offers is protected at all times, under any condition

• GNCAP 5 Star Rating
• Pedigree of OMEGARC
• Advanced ESP with 17 Features*
• Emergency Call/Breakdown Call

• Electronic parking Brake (EPB) with Auto Hold

Take your safety to the next level with our new Auto Hold Function, a traffic essential. Its user-friendly, fail-safe, space-saving features embodies our commitment to simple and utility-driven design.

• 360° Surround View system

Nothing can get in the way of you having a safe drive. We have your back, front, left, right and center, all in high definition.

3-Point ELR Seat Belt for all Passengers with Reminder

Elevate your Safety standard with 3-point seat belt for the all passengers. Crafted with care for every occupant's safety and comfort, it includes seat belt reminder system for all passengers.

• Hill Hold Control

If always going uphill is your vibe, then the New Safari has the means to make it totally hassle-free. Because when you’re going up, you don’t really enjoy coming down.

• 3 Pt ELR Seat Belt with Reminder for All occupants

A highly-intuitive Companion that's build to take on surprises and make your driving truly seamless.

• Autonomous Emergency Braking

Leave no room for uncertainties on road with Autonomous Emergency Braking. The ADAS system monitors the surrounding to identify probable collision scenarios with vehicles, pedestrians and cyclists and if required applies brake automatically* to ensure that you and others stay safe from any harm.

• Forward Collision Warning

Protects vehicle from front collisions by alerting the driver of any danger in the front through Audio-Visual warning.

• Rear Collision Warning

The ADAS system monitors and alerts you of any incoming speeding vehicle in the rear of your vehicle through audio and visual alerts. It also alerts the driver of incoming vehicle to take necessary actions by blinking of hazard lamps.

• Traffic Sign Recognition

You might miss the traffic signs sometimes, but now your car won't. The ADAS system monitors traffic sign boards like "Speed Limits* "No Overtaking* and provides you with inputs so that you can take necessary corrections if required.

• High Beam Assist

Now drive freely on the roads without having to worry about distractions caused by oncoming vehicles. High Beam Assist automatically adjusts headlights from high to low beam when oncoming vehicles are detected.

• Lane Departure warning

 Your car now helps you to stay alert on road by informing you about the things you are unaware of.

The ADAS system monitors lane markings and warns you of any un-intended deviation from the lane.

• Blind Spot Detection

Blind spots can take you by surprise even on your best days.

Blind Spot Detection system monitors vehicle's surrounding to identify any blind spots and alerts you of any possible hazard through audio-visual warnings so that you can take precautionary actions.

• Lane Change Alert

 Your car now helps you to stay alert on road by informing you about the things you are unaware of. The ADAS System monitors the surrounding and warns you of any dangerous lane change

• Rear Cross Traffic Alert

The system prevents you from getting startled by objects approaching or present in the rear blind spot of the vehicle and alerts you through audio and visual alerts which help in easy and safe reversing.

• Door Open Alert

Helps in ensuring safer door opening by alerting Driver and/or passengers of any imminent danger through Alerts.

Performance

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When supreme power is under the feet, the thrill of driving becomes greater

KRYOTEC 170 PS BS6 Ph2 Diesel Engine

Power and performance go hand in hand with the 2.0 L KRYOTEC diesel engine that gives out 170 PS power and 350 Nm torque.

• Smart E-shifter

Drive easy with a dash of style. This Smart E - Shifter in the New Safari not only adds to the convenience of gear shifting but is also sophisticated in its design.

Paddle Shifters

Maneuver the daily chaos with utmost ease. Shift to a futuristic way of maintaining complete control on your Safari without having to take your hands off the wheel.

Bejewelled Terrain Response Modes with Display

No matter what the road, you have just the mode to conquer it. Each mode meticulously fine-tunes the Safari’s performance to suit the driving condition.

• Multi Drive Modes

Made for a different you under different driving conditions. The New Safari is designed to cater to every unique need, allowing you to truly enjoy various driving dynamics effortlessly.

• Kryotec 170 PS BS6 Ph2 Diesel Engine
• Paddle Shifter
• Bejeweled Terrain Response Modes with Display

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The new safari comes loaded with tech that takes charge of elevating all those on-road experiences.

31.24 cm Harman™ Touch Screen Infotainment

Now every drive in the New Safari is going to be captivating. Equipped with high resolution screen so big, that it will transform your Safari into a cinematic cockpit.

• 26.03 cm Digital Instrument Cluster

Every inch of detail is adapted dynamically to suit your current driving situation. The big multifunctional screen gives you all the information on the go so that you can focus on driving.

JBL™ Music System with 10 Speakers

Stay connected with your Safari in real time. A range of connected features are here to assist you with all the latest updates about your car and also allow you to remotely operate.

Harman™ Audioworx Advanced with 13 JBL™ Audio Modes

An immersive acoustic experience awaits your senses in the New Safari. You will feel the base, hear every beat and lose yourself in the melody of your choice.

Wireless Android auto ™ & Apple Carplay ™ over WiFi

Pair your gadgets and access the content on your smartphone seamlessly. So that you stay connected on the go without taking your eyes off the road.

Multiple Voice Assistants including Alexa™

The New Safari is at your command, in the language of your choice. Choose from a range of Voice command including Alexa™  with Car2Home connectivity.

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• JBL Music System with 10 Speakers
• Harman Advanced AudioworX with 13 JBL Modes
• Android auto ™ & Apple Carplay ™ over WiFi
• Multiple voice assistants including Alexa

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The Comfort Zone

The new safari is the epitome of revered elegance and desired calmness.

Voice Assisted Panoramic Sunroof with Mood Lighting

The sun and the stars are both aligned for you to enjoy the view at your command. As you gaze at the stars above, let our integrated sunroof mood lights paint your view with a spectrum of colors.

Gesture Controlled Powered Tail Gate

Open the tailgate even when you have your hands occupied. A simple swipe of the leg under the boot and it opens effortlessly, adding comfort to your everyday routine.

6-way Powered Driver Seat with Memory & Welcome function

Effortless comfort, maximum luxury. The new Safari's 3-step memory storage function elevates your seating experience with ease.

4-Way Powered Co-Driver Seat with Electric Boss Mode

Embrace the power of position. The Boss Mode buttons positions the co-driver seat to unlock maximum legroom, letting you relax and savor the journey ahead.

2nd Row Comfort Head rests & Rear Sun Shades

Now enjoy every journey with more comfort. The New Safari comes with comfort headrest & Sunshades in 2nd row so that you are well rested even in long drives.

Luxurious 3rd Row Seats

Step into the new Safari and relish best-in-class comfort, even in the third row. The back seaters will appreciate ample under-thigh support, convenient mobile charging ports, and smart space holders.

3rd Row AC Vents

In the new Safari, every passenger counts. With a 3-step blower adjustment and smartly positioned vents, we guarantee uninterrupted airflow, even in the harshest weather conditions, no matter your chosen seat.

Intelligent Spaces

For all things big and small, there’s a special place in the New Safari. These thoughtfully created spaces make storage easy and the journey convenient.

Air Purifier

Step into your sanctuary on wheels. Breathe in fresh air, breathe out all your worries. And always stay rejuvenated.

Wireless charger & 45 W C-Type Fast Charger

Just as your vitality never fades, your mobile's battery too will never fail with our blazing 45W C-type charger & built in wireless charging pad.

Front Arm Rest with Cooled Storage

Chilling is easy with thoughtfully designed spaces, right in the front.

Auto Headlamps & Rain Sensing Wipers

Nothing can hamper your visibility. Not the darkness. Not even the rain. Thanks to these intelligent inclusions, every journey is a breeze.

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Noise From Tata Safari Engine

• Thread Starter roman
• Start date Sep 8, 2013

Re: Noise from safari engine. Have you done the 60K service, if yes what all was done? If you haven't ever done a engine/radiator flush then now is the time. Also, when you tank up next time add a bottle of System-D. It has help keep the engine cleaner and smother.  

Re: Noise from safari engine. freakdude said: Have you done the 60K service, if yes what all was done? If you haven't ever done a engine/radiator flush then now is the time. Also, when you tank up next time add a bottle of System-D. It has help keep the engine cleaner and smother. Click to expand... the service at 60k was done they routinely changed the filters and changed other fluids and was working properly and had t then this noise comes all of a sudden it goes away.engine flush was't recommended because engine oil was changed regularly.  

Engine flush is done to remove the carbon deposits that accumulate over time even if oil changes are done at regular intervals. Have a word with TASS to see what they comment.  

freakdude said: Engine flush is done to remove the carbon deposits that accumulate over time even if oil changes are done at regular intervals. Have a word with TASS to see what they comment. Click to expand... the engine flush was done at 50k and they said the next flush should be done at 1 lakh.at 60k service they checked the engine and no defects were detected. when the noise came they again checked it but, no detection of the source. i am particularly worried because the engine noise is loud and keeps cropping up when the engine has not run for more than 1 hour,after 1 hour it just goes away.  

roman, were all the engine bolts torqued properly? Does the knocking sound disappear completely once the engine is warm and did this problem start after the flushing was done?If yes then the gap between piston and cylinder has increased and now since there is no carbon buffer you hear the knocking sound. If the knocking continues after the engine is warm it could be a bad con-rod bearing on the crankshaft.This can be fatal to the engine if it breaks. What grade of oil are you using?I suggest you try a thicker grade of oil that is recommended for your car and see if this problem still persists. Remember to idle the car for a minute before and after you are done driving.  

actually the noise started a week ago it's been 10000km since the flushing.the t.a.s.s has checked it and they could't find a thing wrong with the engine. the sound disappears after good temperature is attained,it s not a knocking sound but a kind of grunt.the engine is not knocking or anything the drive is still smooth the engine oil is castrol gtx  

What is the grade of the oil you are using?  

jarpickle said: What is the grade of the oil you are using? Click to expand... I think it is API CH-4  

Is it 5w40 or 15w-40?  

I went to buy Nissan Silvia S15 Spec R , it was imported from japan ,however it was a drift car with e brakes. when I started it , it made the same knock sound and then after warm up it just vanished it could be any thing check this link What I heard Di-cor Tata engines have knocking issues.  

jarpickle said: Is it 5w40 or 15w-40? Click to expand... it is 15w-40  

Check your manual and see if there is anything thicker than 15-w40 that is recommended for use in your car. For example 20w-40 or 20w50.  

i don't have the manual as i am the second owner i think it's the default engine oil given by the t.a.s.s i don't know if such grades can be used for the engine.  

Every engine has a recommended grade of oil that can be used depending on the area where the car is used. I think 15w40 is the recommended grade for normal climate.What kind of fuel are you using.Are you using standard diesel or premium diesel? You can download the owners manual from : http://customercare.tatamotors.com/manual/safari-vttt-dicor-OMSB.pdf  

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Here is an interesting setup. It is nowhere in Moscow Russia. I did not hear it but it does not mean that we can’t analyze what the authored was trying to accomplish.

It is 3-way installation. Bass looks like dual Goto driver in a J-horn with 35-40Hz mouth. The horn looks like too short for it rate. Also it is not know if the Goto drivers are tunable for this specific horn. From what I heard from Goto people they do not even understand the concept of driver resonance and none of Goto systems I read about even mention the Fs of Goto drivers. So, most the Morons just load off the shelf Goto drives into whatever they use and then feel that if they pay so much for drivers than it shall not sound like crap. In contrary I do know that this approach does lead to very unsophisticated bass.

The twitter is some kind Fostex, probably 900 or 9000, which is fine.

The mid range of course is the most interesting – it is 8” Lowther loaded into a short horn. So, basically it is a direct radiator. I am know to be not a big fan of Lowther but this Moscow guy is looks like trying to do something interesting. I think he has small room and listen in very nearfield position. I made this conclusion from the way how he alight the Tweeter to MF. If you paid attrition the tweeter sits on the curve that focuses very close to the speaker. It is hard to estimate from the picture but if the Fostex has the cone on the back then we are looking at ~8 feet. This says that the playback does not need to pump pressure for 1000 sq feet room and Lowther might be not overly horrible.

As I motion before Lowther might be very good in VERY limited bandwidth and with going too low. My estimate was that it might be 700-800Hz and room is not too large.  I do not know where the Moscow guy low passes his Lowther. If he goes lower then 700-800Hz then he might not listen complex music. If he does cross it there then the question how he can drive his bass horn so high? My estimate is that this type of bass horn is good for no higher than 400-500Hz. However, the Moscow guy uses his MF channels as phase plug for his bass horn, effectively extending the HF of his bass horn. This is elegant idea in my view.

Still, I think that it is a bit a half ass solution. The guy obviously have recourses, interest and desire to get the things right. To have the things done right he needs to put an extra upper bass channel above his bass mouth. He has an excellent space for it. If he introduce let say 200-800hz additional cannel then he would be able to use Lowther MUCH more sparingly at lower knee and will have MUCH better control over the room loading and now he is pretty much is a hostage of a chance.

BTW, pay attention to the wall finish – the exposed rock; this is a phenomenal room treatment.

It is very difficult to make any guess just judging the fact that photographs were changed.  Those people post pictures but never talk about reasons or actual results. A few years back there was guy, I think he was from Greece or from Italy, I do not remember exactly but he was from  the Mediterranian region, so he was traveling around the world, listed different playback installations, shared his views about Sound and the most important interviewed the system owners about their reasons, motivation and interpretation of results. That how the audio journalism shall be taken and his articles WERE interesting. Considering that it had absolutely no commercial exposure I found it was very educational.

So, what we have juts pictures it is very hard to say what is doing on. I am trying but without know people personally it prone to be just guessing.

I do know personally a few people from Jeen site and I am not very big fan of them. I very much do not like Jeen himself. He is an eBay intellectual who lives by cults he creates, I hate those people. Also I did caught Jeen in past on very deliberate lie. Not mistake or blinder which would be fine but very ugly falsification of facts, made very deliberate and in very revolting way. I do not like it and if I see it wipe out the persona from people whom I treat with any respect.

I do not know if the Moscow just is a part of Jeen’s circle. If yes then he can stick his horn in his own ass because he is undoubtedly as much as much idiot as Jeen is and I do not care about his results or reasons. It is possible however, that they are not close, juts live in the same city. If so then here are the options I see for the system owner move from Goto to customized Lowthers

1)      The customized Lowther might have some sonic characteristics that the system owner find valuable. This is very interesting to learn but there are a few factors that I would like to bring to the table. The Jeen’s site says that the owner plays in Jazz band. It does not indicate that his built his playback to play only jazz but considering the he high-pass his Lowther at 200Hz (!!!!!) I doubt that this playback ever played anything serious or seriously. So, of the guy is listening mostly jazz then all bets about motivation are off as they are not justifiable.

2)      The system owner got sick from burning the Goto upper range drivers. Got driver with super fragile VC and ultra-low mass are very vulnerable and have no power handling. I heard from a number of people that it is VERY easy to burn Goto HF drivers and I have seen as some people step away from Goto just because of this reason. There is a guy in South America, I forgot his name, he is well presented at web with all Goto system and he moved out from Goto. I read his comments at AA and Altec site where he was complaining about low power handling of Goto. This Moscow guy use 2A3 amps to drive MF, shall not be too much power from them but if you give a DC pulse to the amp’s input by changing the cables while the amps is on then will  it burn Goto tweeter?

3)      The system owner might have no reasons or motivation but he just following Hi-Fi fashion that Russians invent for themselves. If you look at our idiots like Jonathan Valin for instance then does his change of his speakers preference indicate anything? Of cause not as he has even no “preference” but many other sound unrelated motives why he use one or another acoustic system. The Russians do not have the sinister motivations as the US pimps do but they have their own “issuers”.  Russians are very tribal creatures and they live in many ways as a collective herd.  Their leaders invent for themselves some “party of interests” and then they spend enormous amount of efforts to maintain those cults and own relationship with those “party of interests”.  I personally is very much individualistic and I do not like Russians for their desire to be “violently together” and fear to be independent. Russians mostly do not act or think as an individual but rather as “supported tendency”. So, it is very possible that the Moscow guy was riding in past a wave of Goto popularity. Then the prevailing wind of fashion was changed. 10 year ago a Russian audio propaganda guy sold to Russians the myth about German Natzi audio and all Russians were trading to each ashes from Auschwitz that they believe need to be applied to driver’s diaphragms in order to make it to sound better. I am very little kidding - it was absolutely the same level of idiocy. I think Rulit was riding the way of that German popularity from end of 90s, furnishing Russians with vintage German audio. Eventually he went for making his own drivers and I think nowadays he does a lot of electromagnets with old German paper and leather suspension. That is the current fashion in Russian and the playback of the Moscow guy juts reflects it. Saying all of it I do not make any presumption how good or bad it is, I just say that flowing the current fashion is not a motivation that needs to analyzed.

Anyhow, I hope the Moscow guy will come across this thread or by other means will recognize the he needs a dedicated upperbass channel for his setup.  Then he will not drive his  Lowthers to the horrible 200Hz and will be more realistically see the true performance of his MF driver.

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