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787 Dreamliner By Design

Discover what goes into creating the industry-leading technology of the 787 Dreamliner family.

The 787 Dreamliner Family

The most innovative and efficient airplane family flying today

• Comfort and convenience for passengers
• Profitability and flexibility for airlines
• Exceptional environmental performance for everyone

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner is a super-efficient family of commercial airplanes that brings those far-reaching places a little closer to home.

In response to airline input, Boeing designed the 787 family with superior efficiency and versatility, which allows airlines to profitably open new routes and fly people directly where they want to go, when they want to go in exceptional comfort.

Exceptional Passenger Experience

Boeing created a better flying experience with its 787 Dreamliner family by combining its unique understanding of how the human body reacts to flight conditions and how emerging technologies can improve those conditions

• Spacious cabin

The 787 Dreamliner cabin architecture creates a strong sense of spaciousness with its broad, welcoming entryway, large windows and vaulted ceiling. The 787 cabin is wider than that of the airplanes it replaces, so passengers enjoy more personal space, both physically and visually.

• Better lighting

Modern, adjustable LED lighting provides more lighting choices to create a relaxing environment.

• Largest windows in the sky

The 787 Dreamliner has the largest windows of any commercial jet, offering passengers seated anywhere in the airplane a commanding view of the horizon. The windows also dim at the touch of a button, allowing passengers to look outside when they wish and still maintain a dimmed cabin when appropriate.

• Improved cabin environment

Enhancements in cabin altitude, humidity and air quality on the 787 Dreamliner offer an optimal solution that allows passengers to arrive feeling more refreshed.

• Smoother Ride Technology

Sensors on the 787 Dreamliner are designed to counter the effects of turbulence by causing certain control surfaces to change slightly. This innovative system helps maintain a smoother ride throughout the flight.

• Large overhead bins

The overhead bins on the 787 Dreamliner are the largest in the industry. Boeing designed the 787 bins around the variety of roll-aboard bags that passengers typically carry. As a result, the bins are large enough that every passenger has room to stow a bag above.

State of the Art Flight Deck

The 787 Dreamliner features a state-of-the-art flight deck that balances commonality with the latest enhancements. New technologies are integrated while still maintaining a significant amount of commonality with other Boeing airplanes, particularly the 777. Familiar Boeing controls, displays and procedures all support shorter transition periods to the 787 from other Boeing family members, enabling efficient Mixed Fleet Flying.

Calmer Cabin

Noise quality in the cabin is an important part of any flight. A holistic approach to cabin noise quality, utilizing innovative solutions throughout the airplane, addresses the cause of noise and vibrations and provides passengers with a calmer experience.

• Quieter for Communities
• Designed and built sustainably

The quiet design of the 787 Dreamliner ensures sounds of 85 decibels or higher (slightly louder than a busy street) never leave airport boundaries. In fact, the noise footprint of the 787 is up to 60 percent smaller than the airplane it replaces.

A report issued by the United Kingdom Civil Aviation Authority determined the 787 is significantly quieter than the airplanes it replaces.

The 787 Dreamliner is designed and built with a sustainable product life in mind. The 787 is built in Boeing South Carolina at a net-zero emissions manufacturing facility. The primarily composite structure, advanced aerodynamics, and efficient engines of the 787 enable it to have 25% lower fuel use and emissions than previous generation airplanes. At the end of the airplane's service life, a portion of the materials used to build the 787 can be recycled. Boeing continues to research further recycling opportunities and composites.  

Broad Market Coverage that Opens New Markets

The 787 Dreamliner family has received over 1,900 orders from more than 80 customers on six continents—Africa, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America and South America.

The unparalleled fuel efficiency and range flexibility of the 787 helps airlines optimize their fleets and networks while opening new nonstop routes. The 787 has launched about 400 new direct routes since entering service.

The 787 Dreamliner Family Offers Longer Range Capability

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227,950-kg (502,500-lb) MTOW 248 two-class passengers

254,700-kg (561,500-lb) MTOW 296 two-class passengers

254,000-kg (560,000-lb) MTOW 336 two-class passengers

Standard rules Airways and traffic allowances included 50% annual winds Range Capability from Buenos Aires

Standard rules Airways and traffic allowances included 50% annual winds Range Capability from Dubai

Standard rules Airways and traffic allowances included 50% annual winds Range Capability from London

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Standard rules Airways and traffic allowances included 50% annual winds Range Capability from Seattle

Standard rules Airways and traffic allowances included 50% annual winds Range Capability from Hong Kong

254,000-kg (560,000-lb) MTOW 296 two-class passengers

Standard rules Airways and traffic allowances included 50% annual winds Range Capability from Tokyo

Standard rules Airways and traffic allowances included 50% annual winds Range Capability from Los Angeles

Dreamlifter Route Structure

The Dreamlifter is a unique tool developed by Boeing with Evergreen.

This family of four specially modified 747s transports some of the large 787 fuselage sections and other structures from our partners’ locations around the world to our final assembly site in North Charleston, SC.

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Section 44 from Grottaglie, Italy to North Charleston, SC

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Section 11/45 from Nagoya, Japan to North Charleston, SC

Section 43 from Nagoya, Japan to North Charleston, SC

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Exploring the features and specifications of the Boeing 787-9 

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner is an American state-of-the-art aircraft that has revolutionized air travel with its advanced technology, fuel efficiency, and exceptional passenger comfort. It’s a member of the Boeing 787 family, designed to accommodate a larger number of passengers, and offers an extended range compared to its predecessor, the 787-8.  

This article will delve into the various features and specifications of the Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner, highlighting its history and technical advancements. 

History of the 787 Dreamliner family 

The development of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner family began in the early 2000s, in reaction to the changing needs of the aviation industry. Prior to the 787, the Boeing 767 had been the mainstay for medium- to long-haul flights. However, with the increasing demand for more fuel-efficient and technologically advanced aircraft, Boeing recognized the need for a game-changing solution. 

Boeing’s engineers and designers embarked on an ambitious project to create an aircraft that would revolutionize air travel. The resulting Boeing 787, also known as the Dreamliner, was first flown on December 15, 2009, and marked a significant departure from traditional aircraft manufacturing techniques. 

The 787-9 serves as an updated and improved version of the first Dreamliner 787-8. It retains the core features and technological advancements of its predecessor while offering enhanced capabilities. The stretched fuselage of the 787-9 allows for additional passenger seating and cargo capacity, catering to the evolving demands of airlines operating on long-haul routes. 

The first 787-9 flight took place on September 17, 2013. 

Updated features and advancements 

The Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner incorporates several key updates and improvements compared to the 787-8. The extended fuselage of the 787-9 enables it to accommodate a maximum of 296 passengers in a typical two-class seating configuration, offering airlines increased revenue potential. Furthermore, the aircraft retains the fuel efficiency and advanced aerodynamics of the original Dreamliner, ensuring cost-effective operations and reduced environmental impact. 

Additionally, the Boeing 787-9 boasts an increased range capability, allowing airlines to reach more distant destinations via non-stop flights. The maximum range of 7,565 nautical miles (14,010 kilometers) opens new market opportunities and provides greater flexibility for airlines looking to expand their networks. 

One of the key design aspects of the Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner is its spacious cabin layout, offering enhanced comfort and an enjoyable journey for passengers. The wider cabin allows for larger windows, giving passengers stunning panoramic views and ample natural light. 

Technical specifications 

Boeing reveals more information about increased weight 787-9 and 787-10 aircraft

Production and price .

In 2019, the list price for a 787-9 was $292.5 million. 

As of January 2023, the 787-9 variant accounted for 63% of all 787 orders, and a total of 590 deliveries. 

As of April 2023, the Boeing 787 program has received a cumulative total of 1,646 orders and successfully delivered 1,054 aircraft. The aircraft family also has an impeccable safety record with zero fatalities and no incidents of hull losses. 

Newest variant: Boeing 787-10  

In March 2017, the 787-10, the longest variant of the series, was introduced primarily to accommodate a higher passenger capacity. Spanning a length of 224 feet (68 meters), the 787-10 can seat a maximum of 336 passengers in a two-class cabin setup, albeit with a slightly shorter range compared to the 787-9, at 6,330 nautical miles (11,730 kilometers). 

In 2019, the list price for a 787-10 was $338.4M. 

As of January 2023, there have been a total of 189 orders for the aircraft, with 115 aircraft already delivered. 

Boeing increases 787 Dreamliner production rate to four per month 

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Boeing 787 flight reaches 801 mph as a furious jet stream packs record-breaking speeds

A Boeing 787-9 twin jet on a Virgin Atlantic flight from Los Angeles to London peaked at a whopping 801 mph some 35,000 feet over Pennsylvania.

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Airplanes flying through the jet stream, the high-altitude air current along which storms travel, will either be sped up or slowed down big time, depending on their direction of travel. It’s like the moving walkway at the airport. You have your own forward speed, but if you continue this velocity in an environment that is itself moving, it can propel you at an impressive rate.

On Monday the jet stream was clocked at more than 230 mph over Long Island and a Virgin Atlantic flight from Los Angeles to London peaked at a whopping 801 mph, 35,000 feet over Pennsylvania. “[N]ever ever seen this kind of tailwind in my life as a commercial pilot,” tweeted Peter James, a jet captain .

It appears that’s a record for the Boeing 787-9 twin jet, which in the past has flown at speeds up to 776 mph. The ordinary cruising speed of a Dreamliner is 561 mph, with a maximum propulsion of 587 mph. Any speed gained on top of that is thanks to Mother Nature’s helpful boost.

Although the plane didn’t remain in the “jet streak” — the zone of maximum wind embedded within the jet stream — for long, it still arrived 48 minutes early. And you might notice something suspect about the 801 mph reading — it’s above the speed of sound (767 mph). Commercial aircraft ordinarily can’t break the sound barrier, because they’re not designed to handle the sudden increase in drag and other aerodynamic effects associated with those speeds. Despite a ground speed that high, the plane didn’t come close to reaching that threshold because it was embedded in the swiftly moving air.

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Storms cause the jet stream to bend, cresting and dipping into waves that ride across the Lower 48. Just like kinking a garden hose, it causes the flow speed to decline. In the absence of large-scale weather systems, a zonal west-to-east jet is free to gather considerable speed, much like how we reach our fastest highway speeds on straightaways.

The jet stream can usually get to speeds this high only in the winter because temperature differences between the north and south are maximized. Temperatures on Tuesday hovered around minus-10 to minus-20 in eastern Canada while soaring well into the 80s over Florida. Such large differences in temperature (and pressure) power the wind.

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Almost 800 mph now never ever seen this kind of tailwind in my life as a commercial pilot !! (200 mph tailwind ) pic.twitter.com/0XGTkEP9EB — Peter James (@jetpeter1) February 19, 2019

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The 210-330-seat Boeing 787 is aimed at a potential replacement market for the Boeing 767, Airbus A300-600 and A330-200/-300, estimated at more than 3,500 medium-range airliners. Three versions of the Boeing 787 have been approved so far: The 210-250-passenger Boeing 787-8, with a range of 15,700km, the Boeing 787-9, carrying up to 290 passengers up to 16,300km and the 330-seat, 6,500km range Boeing 787-3.

The Boeing 787 will be powered by 55,000lb – 70,000lb thrust engines from General Electric and Rolls-Royce. GE is developing the new GEnX, Rolls-Royce the Trent 1000. Boeing claims a 20 per cent fuel burn advantage for the 787 over the 767 and an increased cruising speed of Mach 0.85.

A range of new technologies are being incorporated into the Boeing 787. At least half of its primary structure will be built from composite materials, more than any other airliner. The aircraft’s systems use an open architecture and are greatly simplified. The traditional air conditioning and de-icing systems have been replaced on the Boeing 787 with electrical systems not requiring bleed air from the engines, saving fuel.

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The Boeing 787 Dreamliner programme came out of the 7E7 study for a conventional aircraft to replace the original Sonic Cruiser programme after Boeing decided it was over-ambitious. Board approval for the Boeing 787 came in late 2003 with full launch and a record order for 50 aircraft from All Nippon Airways. Since then 29 airlines have ordered 393 Boeing 787s, making it the most successful aircraft launch in Boeing’s history .

The configuration of the Boeing 787 was finalised in September 2005 and detailed design is continuing at 135 companies worldwide preparatory to assembly of the first aircraft in 2006. Demand is so high that Boeing is considering increasing the production rate of the 787 from the initial four aircraft per month to 16 aircraft. The production line is already fully booked to 2011, and some airlines have production slots retained as far ahead as 2016.

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The Boeing 787 Dreamliner is known as one of the world's most successful aircraft, even in its early stages. It's fuel efficient and clean, and built for sustainability.

787-8: $193.5M 787-9: $227.8M

• Apr 2004: 787 program launch
• Dec 2009: 787-8 first flight
• Jan 2010: Initial airworthiness testing completed
• Aug 2011: FAA and EASA certification granted
• Mar 2011: First delivery to ANA

Performance Specifications

• Range: 7,650-8,200 nm
• Cruise Speed: Mach 0.85
• Max Takeoff Weight: 502,500 lb
• Range: 8,000-8,500 nm
• Max Takeoff Weight: 553,000 lb

Design Specifications

• Engines and Systems: The Boeing 787 can be fitted with either the GE GenX engine or the Rolls Royce Trent 1000, both of which promise the best efficiency on the market for the engine class. The engine's bypass ratio of 10 means the engines are quieter, more fuel efficient and environmentally responsible. An advanced fly-by-wire system includes a wing that can change its own chamber in flight through an automatically adjusted trailing edge that moves up or down as needed for maximum efficiency. The ailerons automatically adjust, as well, for the most efficient position.
• Structure Design: The jet is 50% composite material, lessening the load and thereby making the 787 even more fuel efficient. The composite material also helps reduce maintenance costs. There's also a design improvement on the engine nacelle that creates a more laminar flow of air over the engine, reducing drag and increasing efficiency over similar aircraft. Finally, the 787 has smaller fairings with a simple pivot edge trailing flap system, allowing for less drag and an increase in performance.
• Avionics: Pilots that have flown Boeing aircraft before, such as the Boeing 777, will be familiar with the avionics. While Boeing worked to create a state-of-the-art system, it wanted to keep familiarity in focus so that aircrews will transition easily between current Boeing jets and the 787. With the latest advancements in onboard equipment, including dual Heads-Up Displays, extra-large MFDs, and two electronic flight bags, Dreamliner customers shouldn't have to add a thing to the cockpit.
• Size: 787-8 Wingspan: 197 ft, 4 in Height: 55 ft, 6 in Length: 186 ft, 1 in The 787-8 can hold between 210-250 passengers. When configured for cargo operations, the total cargo volume is 4,400 cubic feet. A typical cargo arrangement can hold 5 pallets, 12 LD-3 containers and allows for 402 cubic feet of bulk space. 787-9 Wingspan: 197 ft, 4 in Height: 55 ft, 10 in Length: 206 ft, 1 in Just slightly larger than the 787-8, the 787-9 model can hold 250-290 passengers. When configured for cargo operations, the total cargo volume is 5,400 cubic feet. A typical cargo layout for the 787-9 will hold 6 pallets, 16 LD-3 containers and has 402 cubic feet of bulk space.

As of press time, Boeing had taken orders for 854 787-8 and 787-9 aircraft, an undeniably successful amount of orders. In 2012, Boeing delivered four 787 aircraft to Japan Airlines and 11 aircraft to ANA.

At least 63 companies are currently flying or have orders in for the Boeing 787, including these major players:

• Air Canada (37)
• Air France (25)
• British Airways (24)
• Etihad (41)
• Japan Airlines (45)
• Qantas (50)
• Singapore Airlines (20)
• United (50)
• Virgin Atlantic (16)

Passengers who get to fly on the Dreamliner will be more comfortable, thanks to Smoother Ride Technology, which senses and neutralizes turbulence. LED lighting, large overhead bins, vaulted ceilings, cleaner air, and a lower cabin altitude should make airline customers happier and healthier.

My favorite feature by far is the electronic lightening and darkening function on the new, larger windows. Passengers can block out the light as much or as little as they'd like, without losing the view -- brilliant!

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Airbus a330neo vs boeing 787-9 – which plane is best.

Both planes are considered new technology, highly efficient and crowd-pleasers, but which has the edge?

• The Airbus A330neo and Boeing 787 Dreamliner are popular with operators and passengers but have several key differences.
• Airbus' A330neo has a slight advantage in passenger capacity and cabin space, while Boeing's 787 has more cargo capacity and longer-range capabilities.
• The Dreamliner has proven to be more successful in terms of orders and deliveries, although there have been challenges and setbacks with the program. The Airbus A330neo has gained traction with operators that have flown the classic A330.

The European aircraft manufacturing giant, Airbus, launched the Airbus A330neo (new engine option) during the 2014 Farnborough Airshow in response to the popular Boeing 787 Dreamliner. The A330neo is based on the Airbus' iconic twin-engine aircraft, the A330.

Besides brand-new engines, Airbus has improved in many areas of the A330 design, including wings, nacelles, and the exhaust system. Despite the improvements, the A330neo is based on the 30-year-old airframe.

The Boeing 787 is known for its clean-sheet design and composite structure. The lightweight aircraft is significantly fuel-efficient compared to its predecessors and has been operators' favorite for many years. The Airbus A330neo has gained some traction in recent years, particularly with operators that have flown the classic A330.

While both aircraft are popular with operators and passengers, Simple Flying digs deeper into the characteristics of each aircraft to find out how both compare with each other. The article also shares the opinions of multiple writers when choosing a winner in each category.

Which planes will we be comparing?

There are several variants of both the Boeing 787 and the Airbus A330neo. Specifically, for the Boeing 787, there are the -8, -9, and -10. On the Airbus side, it comes in just two flavors - the -800 and the -900. The -900 is by far the best-selling A330, while the 787-9 is the most popular of the Boeings, although the -8 is not far behind.

For the purposes of comparison, these are the two most popular types, so we shall compare them. To define which is better, we will consider which performs better from an airline's point of view rather than the passengers. Airlines have the freedom to install a range of cabin products and to work to different specifications, so comparing seat architecture or comfort is not a fair measure.

So which is better? Let's find out.

Specifications

Let's compare the two aircraft side by side and see where the similarities and differences lie:

On the surface, these are two very similar airplanes with very similar specifications. While the Airbus has slightly more passenger capacity, thanks to its marginally superior length, the Boeing has a more generous belly for cargo and a greater range overall. Let's plunge into some of these issues to determine the' better' airplane.

Passenger capacity

Airlines are keen to get as many passengers onboard as possible. Although the Boeing's slightly wider cabin might be something of a crowd-pleaser in terms of options for business class seats, its shorter length means fewer rows will be available. In an all-economy configuration, the Airbus simply has more space, which Philippine airline Cebu Pacific intends to test with its own 459-seat version , delivered in December 2021.

Winner: Airbus A330neo

As mentioned, the 787 has a wider cabin overall. While this might mean slightly wider seats for economy passengers, more choice of business class configuration, or simply a wider aisle for easier service, it doesn't make a huge difference overall. What does make a difference, however, is its additional cargo capacity.

In recent years, rates for international air freight reached an all-time high. According to Air Cargo News , in April 2022, the average rate from Hong Kong to North America reached $9.57 per kg, 12.9% up from a year earlier. From Hong Kong to Europe, average rates in April stood at $6.01 per kg, up 30.4% compared with last year.

With each LD3 container capable of carrying around 1,200 kg, the Dreamliner's additional capacity makes it a more profitable airliner below the wing, even if it cannot carry as many passengers in the main cabin area.

Winner: Boeing 787

Fuel efficiency and range.

This is where it gets exciting because the Boeing 787 is 80% composite material, while the A330neo features just 14% composite composition. As such, the Dreamliner is a lighter aircraft, reflected in its additional range capabilities over the Airbus, despite having a smaller fuel capacity.

However, Airbus highlights the incorporation of the latest-generation Rolls-Royce Trent 7000 engines. It also promotes other aerodynamic improvements, such as its famed Sharklet wingtip devices that provide four meters of increased wingspan, improved lift, and reduced drag. These factors help the jet provide efficiency and generate savings through reduced fuel burn.

The range of the 787-9 broke ground when it was introduced in September 2013. The jet's abilities created a buzz over the years after its entry into service. Before the Airbus A350-900ULR conducted the direct route between Singapore and Newark, the world's longest route, the 787-9 had already made a name for itself. Qantas had implemented the jet on its longest route, the only nonstop service from Australia to the United Kingdom between Perth and London.

The 787-9 Dreamliner performed several other groundbreaking long-distance flights over the years. However, a recent yet notable long-range operation with the 787-9 was Air Tahiti Nui's 16-hour nonstop flight between Tahiti and Paris . This was the world's longest domestic flight at the time.

Purchase price

Airbus has always prided itself on trying to outdo Boeing on price. However, it looks like, in this scenario, Airbus cannot beat the production line already set up by Boeing. These were the list prices as of 2018. Nonetheless, it is vital to note that list prices are never the price airlines end up paying since there's much negotiation behind any aircraft order.

• Airbus A330neo $296.4 million
• Boeing 787-9 $281.6 million

Orders and deliveries

Boeing's Dreamliner has been around for a bit longer than the A330neo. The type entered service in October 2011 with ANA, while the Airbus didn't begin operations until December 2018, seven years later. As such, it's unsurprising that the Dreamliner has achieved far greater things in terms of its orders and deliveries than the Airbus.

In total, the 787-9 has received 1,203 total orders, 590 of which have been delivered, leaving a backlog of 613 planes. As a program, there have been 2,096 orders and 1,062 deliveries.

The A330-900 has received 376 orders, of which 86 are currently active and 12 inactive, leaving a backlog of 278. As a program, total orders number just 389, with only 13 orders for the smaller A330-800. At present, 106 airplanes have been delivered.

On paper, the 787 seems by far and away the most successful airliner. However, it would be amiss to compare the two without mentioning Boeing's challenges with the Dreamliner program over the past couple of years.

In the shadow of the 737 MAX grounding, the FAA began inspecting Boeing's other manufacturing processes. This led to the discovery of various flaws with the Dreamliner, forcing deliveries to halt in May 2021.

Since 2022, Boeing has restarted deliveries but found several new issues that have slowed the production and deliveries of new jets. In June 2023, Boeing discovered a new problem requiring inspecting all 90 examples in its inventory. This was the latest in a series of setbacks for the widebody plane.

While these issues don't make the 787 any less of a great airplane, they could shake future confidence in the type and could tip airlines over to the European option. Nevertheless, at present, the Airbus is lagging on the demand side.

What do the airlines think?

The most important measure of an airplane's success is undoubtedly its customers. According to a statement seen by Simple Flying, Antonoaldo Neves, former TAP Air Portugal chief executive officer, said the following about the A330-900 when taking on the aircraft:

“I am delighted to welcome the first Airbus A330-900 into our expanding fleet. Its unbeatable economics and efficiency will power our business forward. The A330neo will give us a lot of operational flexibility thanks to its commonality with the other Airbus aircraft in our fleet. This aircraft will be the first equipped with the new Airspace cabin, which is a new concept shaped to meet TAP’s ambition to offer the best product in the industry to our passengers."

According to another statement seen by Simple Flying, Yutaka Ito, EVP of ANA and ANA HD, said the following about the Dreamliner when confirming an order for more 787-9 and 787-10 planes,

"Boeing's 787s have served ANA with distinction, and we are proud to expand our fleet by adding more of these technologically advanced aircraft. These planes represent a significant step forward for ANA as we work to make our entire fleet more eco-friendly and to reduce noise output."

Ultimately, both types are very popular with the airlines that choose them, and both deliver a more fuel-efficient, quieter, and more cost-effective option than any of the airplanes they replace were capable of.

So which is better?

The notion of a 'better' plane is somewhat subjective, and even from an airline's point of view, there are other factors to consider. Airbus planes have commonality across the types, so it's easy for a pilot to switch between the A350 and A330, for instance.

Depending on their type rating, they may also easily slide between the wide and narrowbody families. Commonality can also bring reduced maintenance costs and easier provision of spares. This has long been one of Airbus' biggest selling points.

Nevertheless, the Boeing 787 Dreamliner was a clean-sheet design. It does not grandfather any of its technology from any other airplane, and its creation from the ground up has allowed it to employ the most modern materials and technologies in all aspects of its construction. By the measures we have considered here, it is proven on paper to have the edge over Airbus.

Do you agree with our assessment? How has your experience of flying both planes been over the years? Let us know your thoughts on the two jets in the comments.

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Boeing 787 Dreamliner breaks speed record thanks to powerful jet stream

Virgin dreamliner reaches ground speed of 1,289kph as it completes los angeles to london trip 48 minutes ahead of schedule.

The Virgin Atlantic Dreamliner 787 landed in London 48 minutes early

On Monday, a Boeing Dreamliner flying from Los Angeles to London stunned the aviation world when it reached speeds of 1,289 kilometres per hour, faster than the speed of sound.

As the Virgin Atlantic plane flew over Pennsylvania, tailwinds caused by a powerful jet stream propelled the aircraft – which usually cruises around 901 kilometres per hour – to hit the record-breaking speed, the fastest that a Dreamliner 787-9 has ever flown.

Despite the excitement, industry experts were quick to point out that it was only the Dreamliner’s ground speed that climbed above 1,234.8kph. Its airspeed was much closer to the maximum flying standard of about 933kph.

That didn’t stop Twitter users getting excited, with one pilot tweeting it was the fastest tailwind he had ever witnessed.

Almost 800 mph now never ever seen this kind of tailwind in my life as a commercial pilot !! (200 mph tailwind ) pic.twitter.com/0XGTkEP9EB — Peter James (@jetpeter1) February 19, 2019

Another user questioned whether it was dangerous (it’s not).

Does this become dangerous at some point? What would be the top speed for one of those planes to travel safely? Just curious 😁 — So now THIS is happening!? 🌬🍃❄ (@TealNoodles) February 19, 2019

Transatlantic flights have long taken advantage of jet streams to save time. Pilots will often request particular routes to make the most of any forecast jet streams.

These narrow currents of air encircle the globe several kilometres above the earth. On Monday, a lack of stormy conditions and high fluctuations between northern and southern temperatures allowed the stream to gather pace.

The Virgin flight didn’t stay in the jet stream for too long, but the boost was enough to see it land in London 48 minutes ahead of schedule.

What is the difference between ground speed and airspeed? 

Ground speed is the speed an aircraft has relative to a point on the ground. Airspeed is the difference between ground speed and wind speed. While anyone observing the plane from below would have seen it move much faster than normal, those on board would not have felt anything out of the ordinary.

This also means that the plane didn’t actually break the speed of sound. For that to happen, the air passing over the plane would have had to have been faster than 1,234.8kph, but it remained at a steady 933kph.

• Boeing 787 -8 (Dreamliner) sample analysis. (2005)

Update Note - June 2006: Boeing recently revised the 787 brochure to show a baseline payload of 242 pax over a range of roughly 7860 nm and simultaneously removed their OEW claim. Piano indicates that an increase in OEW to approximately 243500 lb will account for the revised payload-range characteristics (these include Boeing's minor adjustment in fuel capacity). Using a typical value of furnishings-per-pax, the weight increase is largely (but not totally) explained by the extra seating. The data quoted below remain valid at the original OEW (239200 lb, 224 pax configuration). You may choose to reduce all payloads by the difference in OEW depending on an individual airline's delivery specs. June 21st 2006: More changes have been made to the 787 brochure. Boeing appears ready to revert to generic ZFW-range charts (as opposed to payload-range). This would sidestep the need to claim a specific OEW linked to a specific configuration. April 2008: The latest assessments of the B787-3, B787-8, B787-9 are now available commercially under Piano-X. December 2008: B787-8 model released: The Piano-X model of the Boeing 787-8 has now been released in the public domain and can be downloaded freely, see release note here . It is fully adjustable and supersedes this original sample analysis, which will no longer be updated. November 2011: B787-8 EIS release: An updated assessment and Piano-X model reflecting EIS (entry into service) levels of performance are now available here .

This is an independent analysis of the Boeing 787 -8 based on preliminary information. Copyright © 2006 Lissys Ltd

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Hey IFC, what is the cruising speed of the 787-9? I need to know the mach and IAS. Thanks!

If you get your speed to 320kts prior to passing FL280 you will be at M0.84 after you pass FL280

I normally cruise between Mach 0.84 and 0.85. For Mach 0.84, I set my IAS to 317, and then climb past 28,000 for the switch to Mach. Then, I switch to Mach 0.85 as needed.

Did someone mention “crushing”? 😜 look at the title

IAS and Mach are completely different things. IAS measures airspeed while Mach is groundspeed. The IAS for Mach 0.84 changes based on the winds.

On that note I am not sure what the crushing speed of the 787-9 is…

Oops. Did I accidentally say "crusher"😆

For me it is Mach 0.86. I feel that that is pretty safe.

The Boeing 787 and 747 cruise at M0.85 (320kts IAS). The A350 cruises at M0.86 and the A330ceo cruises at M0.84 (ish).

The A350 normally cruises at Mach 0.85 and the A330ceo at Mach 0.82

The 747-400 at 0.85 and 747-8 at 0.855 (0.86). Lastly the 787, which cruises at 0.85 but the economical cruising speed is 0.87, meaning at this speed, you may reach your destination slightly faster and save a little more fuel in the long run.

I believe according to boeing.com the crushing speed of the 787 is about 140kts on short final with an A380 on taking off immediately ahead of you and a 747-8 coming in right behind you. The crushing speed at cruise is roughly 42069kts at Flight Level: Space. I could be wrong though, I’m not the one who designed the plane.

The most optimum speed is Mach 0.84 to 0.85. At FL280, this can be intercepted from 316 IAS to 320 IAS. You’ll be impressed on how efficient the 787 is at these speeds.

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