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Zalina in commerce city

Zalina in commerce city, Co was excellent to work with. We received our rental vehicle quick and easy. We loved the wrangler Jeep she picked out. And the vehicle was spotless and in excellent condition. It was our first experience with Routes Rental and we were very impressed. Thank you for your kindness and great service!

Date of experience : May 04, 2024

Don’t rent a care here

Don’t rent a care here ! If you are not from Canada , you have to pay 30 cad per day more cause they don’t accept your credit card assurance. They want another card but you can’t use another person card too… and when we said that we want to cancel cause the total was much higher than the initials one that we already pay , they said that there not able to cancel you have just to contact Toronto routes car rentals and maybe they can refund you…

Date of experience : May 07, 2024

I love the bottom line results

I love the bottom line results. The check in technology was a little tricky on the phone but they completely honored the contract without surprises!!

Date of experience : March 13, 2024

Great service

The experience so far has been smooth. Ebony has been a pleasure. Her knowledge and skills were apparent when working with me. She was efficient and pleasant!

Date of experience : May 06, 2024

EXCELLENT SERVICE

EXCELLENT SERVICE! The staff from the shuttle driver to counter service Kalon were courteous, professional, and stayed on task till everything was right. Would definitely recommend and use them again.

Date of experience : May 03, 2024

Don't believe everything you read

After reading reviews I became skeptical renting here,I assumed I would bet a questionable vehicle but went through with it. The shuttle driver showed up to the airport in Denver quickly and was very pleasant and personable. Unfortunately I did not get his name. Upon arriving to the rental Center I was lucky enough to get Ashley to check me out. She was very pleasent ane personable as well. Because of the great customer service, which is hard to come by nowadays, I would not hasitate to rent from Routes again. I ended up with a beautiful 2023 Durango R/T and paid much less than other rental facilities would have charged for a vehicle that size. Thanks for an easy transaction and good experience!!

Date of experience : May 01, 2024

Great experience with Nisha

Great experience with Nisha! She was excellent with setting us up with our car and super nice with the whole rental process.

Never rent from this place

It looks like this company does the same to everyone from Canada. The price listed online is a deposit. Ultimately, you must pay way more than the total online price. Moreover, I was hit by a car in a parking lot, and the guy wanted to help. He gave me all his information, but that was not enough; I needed a police report, which in DR is a bit complex to get, especially for tourists. I ended up paying 500 USD and 200 more for extra insurance that didn't do anything. A few more things: - They have only one or two guys taking customers, and they know a little about the process. They go back to a hidden office to ask questions. This person never comes out to help them. So, you're waiting time to get the car is longer than any other car rental - The cars are in bad shape. The one that I rented, had scratches everywhere, even one of the stoplights was broken. The interior was dirty as well - the steering wheel was off, and the cars didn't have the wheels aligned

Date of experience : April 30, 2024

Ebony and Arnette were very nice and…

Ebony and Arnette were very nice and friendly I would definitely come back again the service was amazing!

Date of experience : May 08, 2024

The best rental place in Toronto they…

The best rental place in Toronto they always upgrade your car for you for no extra the staff is sooo nice. Especially the beautiful lady at the front jas always such a help. Best rental place in the city

Date of experience : May 02, 2024

Awesome Jeep rental for the weekend

Nisha was great, explained the conditions very well and showed us the walkthrough as well. Jonjie was very friendly and made check-out a smooth process. The Jeep we got was in good condition and was exactly what we expected. Highly recommend this place!

Date of experience : April 26, 2024

The staff there is always helpful

The staff there is always helpful. I rent here so frequently that I recognize the personnel and they process me through quickly. The shuttle drivers always help with my luggage and I continue to rent from this facility

Date of experience : April 22, 2024

Kalon made the process very quick and…

Kalon made the process very quick and easy! Thank you so much for your sincere help! Will use again because of the excellent customer service !

Extremely helpful and friendly customer…

Extremely helpful and friendly customer service! Super happy with how great Mustafa was with us! Gave us all the needed info and explained everything clearly. Would definitely come back and use again

Charged for servies not rendered…

I was charged for a rental I did not receive. The agent would not accept the insurance documents presented and refused to release the car. While still charging me for the rental.

Misty! What an absolute joy to rent a car from. She was thoughtful, organized and walked us through the whole process with a genuine smile on her face. She was helpful with directions and explained the toll systems. Will be renting from here again bc of the great customer service. Thank you, Misty, for welcoming us to CO. 8884

Date of experience : April 27, 2024

Renters beware

Renters beware; here is why. Rented a one week mid sized through Priceline for $199.00. Arrived at the off airport location, and were told at the counter that we needed proof from my credit card company that the insurance would be covered, which would have been impossible at the time (6:30 PM), so the insurance became mandatory to rent the vehicle. The premium for the week worked out to be $14,000.00 on an annual basis. Then as an added bonus, we were charged $106.84 for sun-pass (toll roads) expense even though we specifically refused it because it was unnecessary. Long story short, our $199.00 Priceline rental car “deal” became a $650.00 expense: more than the combined plane tickets from St Thomas where we live, more than the hotel expense for the entire week, more than the combined food expense for the week. DO NOT USE THIS COMPANY!! And finally, shame on you Priceline for promoting this totally rip off car rental operation!

Date of experience : March 12, 2024

If you are looking for a great rental…

If you are looking for a great rental that's nice, affordable, and hassle-free, the Chicago airport location is a great place to start. You will not be disappointed!

Date of experience : March 14, 2024

Melissa Atlanta was outstanding

Melissa Atlanta was outstanding! Very courteous & kind!! Thank you!;

My flight was delayed and they wouldn’t…

My flight was delayed and they wouldn’t allow my husband to get the rental car. He had to wait 2 additional hours at the airport for me. Then we had to pay additional to allow my husband to drive the vehicle. We needed the vehicle a day less than originally planned. Still had to pay for the full rental and even tolls for the days we didn’t use the vehicle. The service is so slow. It took us over 30 minutes to get my car after I arrived at the location.

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• Bozeman is a fast-growing city, increasing its population of road users. Avoid being stuck on the road for hours by getting on the road during rush hours. The rush times start at 6:30 am to 10:30 am, with the peak morning rush being between 7:30 am and 8 am. The evening rush hour kicks in from 4:30 pm to 7 pm. The most congested roads in Bozeman are Huffine Lane, Jackrabbit Lane, and N. 19th Avenue. In downtown Bozeman, the worst congestion is on Main Street. If you’re in town during the summer, the road to Hyalite Reservoir is always congested, so visit the attraction during other periods.
• Are you accessing the city by road instead of flying in? If so, you don’t need to travel to Bozeman Yellowstone International Airport to acquire cheap car rentals in Bozeman. Several rental providers also have rental offices in downtown Bozeman. Enterprise and NewCar Rental have downtown locations. The former has offices along W. Babcock Street, while the latter is on N 7th Avenue. Downtown locations provide all types of vehicles, including four-wheel drives to help you tackle the snowy roads during winter.
• Trucks compose almost half the total vehicles on Bozeman roads. Be extra careful while driving, especially a few hours before rush hour, from around noon to 3 pm. Watch out for trucks while driving Bozeman car rentals. Slow down and leave enough space between you and the truck ahead. This will avoid a dangerous situation such as getting your vehicle stuck under the truck. If you must overtake, ensure you can clearly see the road ahead and overtake sensibly and quickly. Moreover, avoid cutting in front of trucks on a highway or near traffic lights. If a truck is overtaking your vehicle, avoid speeding. Do not drive right at the center line of the road if there are many trucks around. Avoid operating a handheld device while driving, as this can make you lose control of your vehicle.
• Visit Bozeman and benefit from the freedom and flexibility a rental car can give you during your stay. Apart from the many attractions within the city borders, such as the Museum of the Rockies, there are also many national parks and green spaces that are best reached by car. About 90 miles to the south lies Yellowstone National Park, which is an hour and 40-minute drive from Bozeman city and is just waiting to be explored.
• Bozeman Yellowstone International Airport is over 10 miles from the city center, so the most convenient way to get out and about is by renting a vehicle directly at one of the airport agencies. Situated right next to the baggage claim area, the airport sports eight major agencies, including Hertz, Avis, and National. There are also some off-site rental agencies, some of which offer shuttle services from the airport to the rental center.
• The winters in Bozeman, Montana can be very cold and bring lots of snow. Knowing how to handle a car in winter conditions is important when visiting the city in the cold months. First of all, make sure to have the rental car equipped properly and also rent snow chains, if necessary (they may only be used when there is ice or snow on the roads).
• Another important aspect of driving in cold conditions is to adjust your speed. Bozeman drivers are generally known to be patient and friendly and will usually also adjust their speed when the roads are slippery. Sudden braking or accelerating should be avoided and headlights should always be turned on – even during the day – so that other drivers can spot your car better in the snow flurries.
• 25% of our users found rental cars in Bozeman for $63 or less
• Book your rental car in Bozeman at least 1 day before your trip in order to get a below-average price
• Off-airport rental car locations in Bozeman are around 26% more expensive than airport locations on average
• Compact rental cars in Bozeman are around 69% cheaper than other car types, on average

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Especially when visiting in the cold winter months, opting for a 4-wheel drive car is a wise decision to make. An SUV can whizz in and out of the city with ease and still provide the essential road grip for safety. For more space, choose a minivan where bigger families have plenty of space for themselves and any additional luggage.

What’s the speed limit in Bozeman?

In residential areas, 25-30 mph is permitted, on undivided rural roads up to 70 mph, and up to 80 mph on freeways. However, drivers should always look out for posted signs and adhere to them. It is also important to drive according to weather and road conditions and to slow down considerably when necessary.

Where are the best places to park in Bozeman?

Parking in Bozeman is usually a pleasant experience compared to many other US cities. On-street parking is free for the first two hours and metered afterwards. Parking in most garages is also free for two hours, including the Bridger Park Downtown Garage and the off-street parking lots, Rouse Lot and Black Lot. Also note that cars parked on the street have to be moved every 48 hours.

How much does it cost to rent a car in Bozeman?

On average a rental car in Bozeman costs $105 per day. But prices differ between operators and you can save money through a price comparison of car rental deals from different agencies. The cheapest price for a car rental in Bozeman found in the last 2 weeks is $40.

What is the cheapest car rental company in Bozeman?

In the past 72 hours, the cheapest rental cars were found at Thrifty ($34/day), Dollar ($34/day) and Hertz ($37/day). In the last 72 hours the cheapest rental car price was found at Dollar 850 Gallatin Field Road 59714 (9 miles from city center).

What is the best rental car company in Bozeman?

Based on ratings and reviews from real users on KAYAK, the best car rental company in Bozeman is Hertz (7.9, 260 reviews).

How much is gas price in Bozeman?

The average gas price in Bozeman is $3.93 per gallon over the past 30 days. Filling up a gas tank costs between $47 and $63, depending on the car size.

What is the most popular rental car in Bozeman?

Compact (Nissan Versa Note or similar) is the most frequently booked rental car type in Bozeman.

Which car rental companies are at Gallatin Field airport (BZN)?

Car rental companies onsite at Gallatin Field airport include Hertz , Thrifty , Dollar , NextCar and Ace .

Which car rental companies will pick you up at Gallatin Field airport (BZN)?

Car rental companies that offer shuttle or pick-up services from Gallatin Field airport to off-airport locations include Hertz , Budget , Enterprise Rent-A-Car , Alamo , Thrifty , Dollar , Avis , National , and Ace .

How can I find car rentals near me in Bozeman?

Take a look at our extensive car rental location map to find the best rental cars near you.

How much does a Compact car rental cost in Bozeman?

A Compact car rental in Bozeman costs $33 per day, on average.

How much does an Intermediate car rental cost in Bozeman?

An Intermediate car rental in Bozeman costs $37 per day, on average.

How much does an Economy car rental cost in Bozeman?

An Economy car rental in Bozeman costs $52 per day, on average.

How much does it cost to rent a car for a week in Bozeman?

On average a rental car in Bozeman costs $734 per week ($105 per day).

How much does it cost to rent a car long term for a month in Bozeman?

On average a rental car in Bozeman costs $3,145 per month ($105 per day).

Should I get insurance when renting a car in Bozeman?

Most car rental providers in Bozeman offer insurance but the level of protection can differ substantially. If you're unsure whether to get extra protection for your car rental in Bozeman, check out KAYAK's car rental insurance guide.

How many car agencies are operating in Bozeman?

KAYAK has deals for you to compare from 9 car rental agencies in Bozeman.

What do I need to know before booking a car rental in Bozeman?

Finding the right price, understanding the add-ons and staying up to date with policy changes can be a challenge. That’s why KAYAK has produced the ultimate guide to renting a car to help you cut though the jargon and make the right choice for your rental car. Find tips and insights for how to book your rental, what car rental insurance you’ll need, how to deal with a car rental agency and what extra fees to expect (and avoid!).

Why should I use KAYAK to rent a car in Bozeman?

KAYAK searches thousands of car rental agencies to provide you with offers from all car rental agencies operating in Bozeman so that you can compare car rental rates, reviews and pick-up and drop-off locations to find the best deal for you.

Are there toll roads in Bozeman?

Renters of cheap car rentals in Bozeman will not have to worry about paying tolls on Bozeman roads. Montana state lacks any toll roads; you can drive throughout Bozeman and Montana without a transponder, so you do not need to get one from your car rental provider.

Is free cancellation available for car rentals in Bozeman?

Yes, cancel your Bozeman car rental reservation at least 24 hours before the intended pick-up time if you wish to get a full refund. This applies to both on-airport and downtown rental locations. Avis, Enterprise, and Budget all provide full refunds for cancellations done directly through their website.

Bozeman car rental reviews and directory

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850 Gallatin Field Road

+1 406 388 6939

10.0 Wonderful

9.6 Wonderful

8.0 Very good

Enterprise Rent-A-Car

4780 W Babcock St

+1 406 586 8010

8.8 Very good

1 out of 13

850 Gallatin Field

4.0 Mediocre

30 Homestake Dr

+1 406 551 2277

4.4 Mediocre

23 North 7th Avenue

+1 406 587 0933

8.4 Very good

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Gallatin Field Airport

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5 Gallatin Field

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Journey RentACar, LLC

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Last Updated on May 1, 2024 by Kristin

Thinking about renting from Routes Car Rental ? The Canada-based company provides sedans, trucks, SUVs, Jeeps and cargo vans in many countries. Here’s what you need to know about Routes.

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Routes Car Rental is a car rental company based in Mississauga, Canada. The company was founded in 1998 by Hardeep Nagra. As of July 2021, Routes was operating at 16 locations in the U.S. and Canada, plus dozens more around the world.

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Routes locations include major North American airports such as Toronto Pearson International Airport (YYZ), Orlando International Airport (MCO) and Denver International Airport (DEN).

On its website, Routes also advertises airport locations in several other countries, such as Athens, Greece and Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. However, that doesn’t necessarily mean that Routes directly operates locations in all of those areas. At some of Routes’ listed locations, affiliate companies represent its brand.

In September 2020, Routes Car Rental and Paris-based Europcar Mobility Group announced an alliance partnership . The agreement provide customers of each brand with access to each other’s services.

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Routes Car Rental does have some positive reviews. But renters should note the overwhelming number of negative experiences customers have reported when using the company’s services.

The car rental company has a “poor” rating of just two stars on Trustpilot , with 81% of the reviews on the site falling into the “bad” category. Several recent reviewers even said they had the “worst experience” renting here in their respective reviews.

Routes is not accredited by the Better Business Bureau (BBB), where 143 complaints were lodged against the company in the last three years. It has just 1.41 out of 5 stars on the site based on the average of 27 customer reviews.

Customers claimed they experienced issues such as dirty or damaged cars, overcharging for damages and a lack of communication. At the Routes location in Calgary, Alberta, Tripadvisor users said they were confused about proof-of-insurance requirements. In Richmond, British Columbia, Yelp reviewers complained about high security deposits.

Based on the number of negative reviews from customers about Routes Car Rental, we recommend looking at more than just the price when making a decision about whether to rent from the company. While you may think you are getting a deal, it often pays to check out other options for your next car rental reservation.

In AutoSlash’s Ultimate Rental Car Ratings , we give Routes 2 out of 5 stars, the lowest score. We consider it a “Tier 4” company after hearing complaint after complaint after complaint. While Routes may offer what looks like an attractive price, be aware that you run a big risk of an unsatisfactory experience.

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Major car rental companies can also offer some great discounts and perks through their rewards programs. In addition, these companies offer dedicated customer service lines that can help you reach the right person if something goes wrong.

If you rent a car from Routes, we recommend making sure that you document the condition of the car in detail before driving it off the lot to avoid any issues with damage claims later on. Also, be sure to read the terms and conditions outlined in your contract extra carefully. In addition, make sure that the total charges matches the quote you received. Be sure to check that unwanted add-ons were not tacked on to your reservation that will hike up your costs.

This will help ensure that you do not unknowingly sign up for any additional services. Some customers have complained of false charges for damages. Also, be sure to confirm whether Routes is operating under its own brand at the specific rental location, or whether they are using an affiliate company.

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A Plan to Remake the Middle East

While talks for a cease-fire between israel and hamas continue, another set of negotiations is happening behind the scenes..

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From New York Times, I’m Michael Barbaro. This is The Daily.

[MUSIC CONTINUES]

Today, if and when Israel and Hamas reach a deal for a ceasefire fire, the United States will immediately turn to a different set of negotiations over a grand diplomatic bargain that it believes could rebuild Gaza and remake the Middle East. My colleague Michael Crowley has been reporting on that plan and explains why those involved in it believe they have so little time left to get it done.

It’s Wednesday, May 8.

Michael, I want to start with what feels like a pretty dizzying set of developments in this conflict over the past few days. Just walk us through them?

Well, over the weekend, there was an intense round of negotiations in an effort, backed by the United States, to reach a ceasefire in the Gaza war.

The latest ceasefire proposal would reportedly see as many as 33 Israeli hostages released in exchange for potentially hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.

US officials were very eager to get this deal.

Pressure for a ceasefire has been building ahead of a threatened Israeli assault on Rafah.

Because Israel has been threatening a military offensive in the Southern Palestinian city of Rafah, where a huge number of people are crowded.

Fleeing the violence to the North. And now they’re packed into Rafah. Exposed and vulnerable, they need to be protected.

And the US says it would be a humanitarian catastrophe on top of the emergency that’s already underway.

Breaking news this hour — very important breaking news. An official Hamas source has told The BBC that it does accept a proposal for a ceasefire deal in Gaza.

And for a few hours on Monday, it looked like there might have been a major breakthrough when Hamas put out a statement saying that it had accepted a negotiating proposal.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says the ceasefire proposal does not meet his country’s requirements. But Netanyahu says he will send a delegation of mediators to continue those talks. Now, the terms —

But those hopes were dashed pretty quickly when the Israelis took a look at what Hamas was saying and said that it was not a proposal that they had agreed to. It had been modified.

And overnight —

Israeli troops stormed into Rafah. Video showing tanks crashing over a sign at the entrance of the city.

— the Israelis launched a partial invasion of Rafah.

It says Hamas used the area to launch a deadly attack on Israeli troops over the weekend.

And they have now secured a border crossing at the Southern end of Gaza and are conducting targeted strikes. This is not yet the full scale invasion that President Biden has adamantly warned Israel against undertaking, but it is an escalation by Israel.

So while all that drama might suggest that these talks are in big trouble, these talks are very much still alive and ongoing and there is still a possibility of a ceasefire deal.

And the reason that’s so important is not just to stop the fighting in Gaza and relieve the suffering there, but a ceasefire also opens the door to a grand diplomatic bargain, one that involves Israel and its Arab neighbors and the Palestinians, and would have very far-reaching implications.

And what is that grand bargain. Describe what you’re talking about?

Well, it’s incredibly ambitious. It would reshape Israel’s relationship with its Arab neighbors, principally Saudi Arabia. But it’s important to understand that this is a vision that has actually been around since well before October 7. This was a diplomatic project that President Biden had been investing in and negotiating actually in a very real and tangible way long before the Hamas attacks and the Gaza war.

And President Biden was looking to build on something that President Trump had done, which was a series of agreements that the Trump administration struck in which Israel and some of its Arab neighbors agreed to have normal diplomatic relations for the first time.

Right, they’re called the Abraham Accords.

That’s right. And, you know, Biden doesn’t like a lot of things, most things that Trump did. But he actually likes this, because the idea is that they contribute to stability and economic integration in the Middle East, the US likes Israel having friends and likes having a tight-knit alliance against Iran.

President Biden agrees with the Saudis and with the Israelis, that Iran is really the top threat to everybody here. So, how can you build on this? How can you expand it? Well, the next and biggest step would be normalizing relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

And the Saudis have made clear that they want to do this and that they’re ready to do this. They weren’t ready to do it in the Trump years. But Mohammed bin Salman, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, has made clear he wants to do it now.

So this kind of triangular deal began to take shape before October 7, in which the US, Israel, and Saudi Arabia would enter this three way agreement in which everyone would get something that they wanted.

And just walk through what each side gets in this pre-October 7th version of these negotiations?

So for Israel, you get normalized ties with its most important Arab neighbor and really the country that sets the tone for the whole Muslim world, which is Saudi Arabia of course. It makes Israel feel safer and more secure. Again, it helps to build this alliance against Iran, which Israel considers its greatest threat, and it comes with benefits like economic ties and travel and tourism. And Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been very open, at least before October 7th, that this was his highest diplomatic and foreign policy priority.

For the Saudis, the rationale is similar when it comes to Israel. They think that it will bring stability. They like having a more explicitly close ally against Iran. There are economic and cultural benefits. Saudi Arabia is opening itself up in general, encouraging more tourism.

But I think that what’s most important to the Crown Prince, Mohammed bin Salman, is what he can get from the United States. And what he has been asking for are a couple of essential things. One is a security agreement whose details have always been a little bit vague, but I think essentially come down to reliable arms supplies from the United States that are not going to be cut off or paused on a whim, as he felt happened when President Biden stopped arms deliveries in 2021 because of how Saudi was conducting its war in Yemen. The Saudis were furious about that.

Saudi Arabia also wants to start a domestic nuclear power program. They are planning for a very long-term future, possibly a post-oil future. And they need help getting a nuclear program off the ground.

And they want that from the US?

And they want that from the US.

Now, those are big asks from the us. But from the perspective of President Biden, there are some really enticing things about this possible agreement. One is that it will hopefully produce more stability in the region. Again, the US likes having a tight-knit alliance against Iran.

The US also wants to have a strong relationship with Saudi Arabia. You know, despite the anger at Mohammed bin Salman over the murder of the Saudi dissident Jamal Khashoggi, the Biden administration recognizes that given the Saudis control over global oil production and their strategic importance in the Middle East, they need to have a good relationship with them. And the administration has been worried about the influence of China in the region and with the Saudis in particular.

So this is an opportunity for the US to draw the Saudis closer. Whatever our moral qualms might be about bin Salman and the Saudi government, this is an opportunity to bring the Saudis closer, which is something the Biden administration sees as a strategic benefit.

All three of these countries — big, disparate countries that normally don’t see eye-to-eye, this was a win-win-win on a military, economic, and strategic front.

That’s right. But there was one important actor in the region that did not see itself as winning, and that was the Palestinians.

[MUSIC PLAYING]

First, it’s important to understand that the Palestinians have always expected that the Arab countries in the Middle East would insist that Israel recognize a Palestinian state before those countries were willing to essentially make total peace and have normal relations with Israel.

So when the Abraham Accords happened in the Trump administration, the Palestinians felt like they’d been thrown under the bus because the Abraham Accords gave them virtually nothing. But the Palestinians did still hold out hope that Saudi Arabia would be their savior. And for years, Saudi Arabia has said that Israel must give the Palestinians a state if there’s going to be a normal relationship between Israel and Saudi Arabia.

Now the Palestinians see the Saudis in discussions with the US and Israel about a normalization agreement, and there appears to be very little on offer for the Palestinians. And they are feeling like they’re going to be left out in the cold here.

Right. And in the minds of the Palestinians, having already been essentially sold out by all their other Arab neighbors, the prospect that Saudi Arabia, of all countries, the most important Muslim Arab country in the region, would sell them out, had to be extremely painful.

It was a nightmare scenario for them. And in the minds of many analysts and US officials, this was a factor, one of many, in Hamas’s decision to stage the October 7th attacks.

Hamas, like other Palestinian leaders, was seeing the prospect that the Middle East was moving on and essentially, in their view, giving up on the Palestinian cause, and that Israel would be able to have friendly, normal relations with Arab countries around the region, and that it could continue with hardline policies toward the Palestinians and a refusal, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said publicly, to accept a Palestinian state.

Right. So Michael, once Hamas carries out the October 7th attacks in an effort to destroy a status quo that it thinks is leaving them less and less relevant, more and more hopeless, including potentially this prospect that Saudi Arabia is going to normalize relations with Israel, what happens to these pre-October 7th negotiations between the US, Saudi Arabia, and Israel?

Well, I think there was a snap assumption that these talks were dead and buried. That they couldn’t possibly survive a cataclysm like this.

But then something surprising happened. It became clear that all the parties were still determined to pull-off the normalization.

And most surprisingly of all, perhaps, was the continued eagerness of Saudi Arabia, which publicly was professing outrage over the Israeli response to the Hamas attacks, but privately was still very much engaged in these conversations and trying to move them forward.

And in fact, what has happened is that the scope of this effort has grown substantially. October 7th didn’t kill these talks. It actually made them bigger, more complicated, and some people would argue, more important than ever.

We’ll be right back.

Michael, walk us through what exactly happens to these three-way negotiations after October 7th that ends up making them, as you just said, more complicated and more important than ever?

Well, it’s more important than ever because of the incredible need in Gaza. And it’s going to take a deal like this and the approval of Saudi Arabia to unlock the kind of massive reconstruction project required to essentially rebuild Gaza from the rubble. Saudi Arabia and its Arab friends are also going to be instrumental in figuring out how Gaza is governed, and they might even provide troops to help secure it. None of those things are going to happen without a deal like this.

Fascinating.

But this is all much more complicated now because the price for a deal like this has gone up.

And by price, you mean?

What Israel would have to give up. [MUSIC PLAYING]

From Saudi Arabia’s perspective, you have an Arab population that is furious at Israel. It now feels like a really hard time to do a normalization deal with the Israelis. It was never going to be easy, but this is about as bad a time to do it as there has been in a generation at least. And I think that President Biden and the people around him understand that the status quo between Israel and the Palestinians is intolerable and it is going to lead to chaos and violence indefinitely.

So now you have two of the three parties to this agreement, the Saudis and the Americans, basically asking a new price after October 7th, and saying to the Israelis, if we’re going to do this deal, it has to not only do something for the Palestinians, it has to do something really big. You have to commit to the creation of a Palestinian state. Now, I’ll be specific and say that what you hear the Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, say is that the agreement has to include an irreversible time-bound path to a Palestinian state.

We don’t know exactly what that looks like, but it’s some kind of a firm commitment, the likes of which the world and certainly the Israelis have not made before.

Something that was very much not present in the pre-October 7th vision of this negotiation. So much so that, as we just talked about, the Palestinians were left feeling completely out in the cold and furious at it.

That’s right. There was no sign that people were thinking that ambitiously about the Palestinians in this deal before October 7th. And the Palestinians certainly felt like they weren’t going to get much out of it. And that has completely changed now.

So, Michael, once this big new dimension after October 7th, which is the insistence by Saudi Arabia and the US that there be a Palestinian state or a path to a Palestinian state, what is the reaction specifically from Israel, which is, of course, the third major party to this entire conversation?

Well, Israel, or at least its political leadership, hates it. You know, this is just an extremely tough sell in Israel. It would have been a tough sell before October 7th. It’s even harder now.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is completely unrepentantly open in saying that there’s not going to be a Palestinian state on his watch. He won’t accept it. He says that it’s a strategic risk to his country. He says that it would, in effect, reward Hamas.

His argument is that terrorism has forced a conversation about statehood onto the table that wasn’t there before October 7th. Sure, it’s always in the background. It’s a perennial issue in global affairs, but it was not something certainly that the US and Israel’s Arab neighbors were actively pushing. Netanyahu also has — you know, he governs with the support of very right-wing members of a political coalition that he has cobbled together. And that coalition is quite likely to fall apart if he does embrace a Palestinian state or a path to a Palestinian state.

Now, he might be able to cobble together some sort of alternative, but it creates a political crisis for him.

And finally, you know, I think in any conversation about Israel, it’s worth bearing in mind something you hear from senior US officials these days, which is that although there is often finger pointing at Netanyahu and a desire to blame Netanyahu as this obstructionist who won’t agree to deals, what they say is Netanyahu is largely reflecting his population and the political establishment of his country, not just the right-wingers in his coalition who are clearly extremist.

But actually the prevailing views of the Israeli public. And the Israeli public and their political leaders across the spectrum right now with few exceptions, are not interested in talking about a Palestinian state when there are still dozens and dozens of Israeli hostages in tunnels beneath Gaza.

So it very much looks like this giant agreement that once seemed doable before October 7th might be more important to everyone involved than ever, given that it’s a plan for rebuilding Gaza and potentially preventing future October 7th’s from happening, but because of this higher price that Israel would have to pay, which is the acceptance of a Palestinian state, it seems from everything you’re saying, that this is more and more out of reach than ever before and hard to imagine happening in the immediate future. So if the people negotiating it are being honest, Michael, are they ready to acknowledge that it doesn’t look like this is going to happen?

Well, not quite yet. As time goes by, they certainly say it’s getting harder and harder, but they’re still trying, and they still think there’s a chance. But both the Saudis and the Biden administration understand that there’s very little time left to do this.

Well, what do you mean there’s very little time left? It would seem like time might benefit this negotiation in that it might give Israel distance from October 7th to think potentially differently about a Palestinian state?

Potentially. But Saudi Arabia wants to get this deal done in the Biden administration because Mohammed bin Salman has concluded this has to be done under a Democratic president.

Because Democrats in Congress are going to be very reluctant to approve a security agreement between the United States and Saudi Arabia.

It’s important to understand that if there is a security agreement, that’s something Congress is going to have to approve. And you’re just not going to get enough Democrats in Congress to support a deal with Saudi Arabia, who a lot of Democrats don’t like to begin with, because they see them as human rights abusers.

But if a Democratic president is asking them to do it, they’re much more likely to go along.

Right. So Saudi Arabia fears that if Biden loses and Trump is president, that those same Democrats would balk at this deal in a way that they wouldn’t if it were being negotiated under President Biden?

Exactly. Now, from President Biden’s perspective, politically, think about a president who’s running for re-election, who is presiding right now over chaos in the Middle East, who doesn’t seem to have good answers for the Israeli-Palestinian question, this is an opportunity for President Biden to deliver what could be at least what he would present as a diplomatic masterstroke that does multiple things at once, including creating a new pathway for Israel and the Palestinians to coexist, to break through the logjam, even as he is also improving Israel’s relations with Saudi Arabia.

So Biden and the Crown Prince hope that they can somehow persuade Bibi Netanyahu that in spite of all the reasons that he thinks this is a terrible idea, that this is a bet worth taking on Israel’s and the region’s long-term security and future?

That’s right. Now, no one has explained very clearly exactly how this is going to work, and it’s probably going to require artful diplomacy, possibly even a scenario where the Israelis would agree to something that maybe means one thing to them and means something else to other people. But Biden officials refuse to say that it’s hopeless and they refuse to essentially take Netanyahu’s preliminary no’s for an answer. And they still see some way that they can thread this incredibly narrow needle.

Michael, I’m curious about a constituency that we haven’t been talking about because they’re not at the table in these discussions that we are talking about here. And that would be Hamas. How does Hamas feel about the prospect of such a deal like this ever taking shape. Do they see it as any kind of a victory and vindication for what they did on October 7th?

So it’s hard to know exactly what Hamas’s leadership is thinking. I think they can feel two things. I think they can feel on the one hand, that they have established themselves as the champions of the Palestinian people who struck a blow against Israel and against a diplomatic process that was potentially going to leave the Palestinians out in the cold.

At the same time, Hamas has no interest in the kind of two-state solution that the US is trying to promote. They think Israel should be destroyed. They think the Palestinian state should cover the entire geography of what is now Israel, and they want to lead a state like that. And that’s not something that the US, Saudi Arabia, or anyone else is going to tolerate.

So what Hamas wants is to fight, to be the leader of the Palestinian people, and to destroy Israel. And they’re not interested in any sort of a peace process or statehood process.

It seems very clear from everything you’ve said here that neither Israel nor Hamas is ready to have the conversation about a grand bargain diplomatic program. And I wonder if that inevitably has any bearing on the ceasefire negotiations that are going on right now between the two of them that are supposed to bring this conflict to some sort of an end, even if it’s just temporary?

Because if, as you said, Michael, a ceasefire opens the door to this larger diplomatic solution, and these two players don’t necessarily want that larger diplomatic solution, doesn’t that inevitably impact their enthusiasm for even reaching a ceasefire?

Well, it certainly doesn’t help. You know, this is such a hellish problem. And of course, you first have the question of whether Israel and Hamas can make a deal on these immediate issues, including the hostages, Palestinian prisoners, and what the Israeli military is going to do, how long a ceasefire might last.

But on top of that, you have these much bigger diplomatic questions that are looming over them. And it’s not clear that either side is ready to turn and face those bigger questions.

So while for the Biden administration and for Saudi Arabia, this is a way out of this crisis, these larger diplomatic solutions, it’s not clear that it’s a conversation that the two parties that are actually at war here are prepared to start having.

Well, Michael, thank you very much. We appreciate it.

On Tuesday afternoon, under intense pressure from the US, delegations from Israel and Hamas arrived in Cairo to resume negotiations over a potential ceasefire. But in a statement, Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu made clear that even with the talks underway, his government would, quote, “continue to wage war against Hamas.”

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If and when Israel and Hamas reach a deal for a cease-fire, the United States will immediately turn to a different set of negotiations over a grand diplomatic bargain that it believes could rebuild Gaza and remake the Middle East.

Michael Crowley, who covers the State Department and U.S. foreign policy for The Times, explains why those involved in this plan believe they have so little time left to get it done.

On today’s episode

Michael Crowley , a reporter covering the State Department and U.S. foreign policy for The New York Times.

Background reading :

Talks on a cease-fire in the Gaza war are once again at an uncertain stage .

Here’s how the push for a deal between Israel and Saudi Arabia looked before Oct. 7 .

From early in the war, President Biden has said that a lasting resolution requires a “real” Palestinian state .

Here’s what Israeli officials are discussing about postwar Gaza.

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