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Blast to Cruise Transition, your approach

• Thread starter BoredStiff
• Start date Jan 25, 2019

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• Jan 25, 2019

Been on just TRT for the past few years, back to blasting but going to keep things simple for a good while with just Test E., HCG and an AI. Plan for the year is 10 weeks blast at 200 EOD, cruise for 10 weeks at 50 EOD. AI Dose TBD by bloodwork. Here's where I need a refresher. When the 10 week blast is up and I drop from 700mg in my system to 175mg in my system, what's the best way to handle the AI drop. My thinking was wait about two half-lives to pass and then start the test back up at 50mg EOD..... but during those 8 days or so, there's a ton of E2 in body. Taper the AI down during that phase, or just drop over night from 200mg shots to 50mg shots and drop the AI along with it (let's say, hypothetically from 1mg EOD to 1/4mg EOD)... that seems like a recipe for major rebound but I'm not clear on this, would be very interested in hearing how you guys approach it.  

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I use a very complex and complicated approach. Say I'm blasting on 1000 mg's Test and 600 mg's deca per week, divided into two shots, Monday and Friday and plan to cruise on 250 mg's per week of test. After my last shot of 500 mg's test and 300 mgs deca on Friday the following Monday I shoot 125 mg's of test. Then do it again on Friday. Regarding an AI, I usually continue any AI use for the first week of the cruise, but to be honest, I don't always take an AI at all.  

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You go from blast to cruise overnight. There is no transition necessary.  

• Jan 26, 2019

I take my adex for like a week 'extra' while dropping from 750 per week straight to 125 e8d. But since you're saying that you will dose your ai according to bloodwork, I wouldn't do anything special tbh  

You’re looking way to far into it Just blast and cruise lol no transition needed  

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I wondered this too. Say u blast a gram no ai then u drop to trt. Won't there be a imbalance for a bit? Doesn't e2 stay higher for a longer a period of time then it will for test levels to drop? Can't that cause Gyno?  

i wish i could reinvent the wheel sometimes.  

Samson48 said: You’re looking way to far into it Just blast and cruise lol no transition needed Click to expand...

Vlad The Impaler

its not rocket science, just do it  

I just cruise on the same amount of test and blast anabolics. Takes the guess work out of it Rly.  

• Jan 27, 2019

Vlad The Impaler said: its not rocket science, just do it Click to expand...

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I never taper gear, but i do continue 2 weeks with arimidex. Use 0.5mg eod usuall. Continue 1 week with 0.5mg 2xw and 0.25x2 times week after. Then maby 1x0.25 3d week like 5 days after 2w. This is with long esters.  

Tapering things down is the best approach to make things as smooth as possible - hormone balance, strength adjustment, etc. Don't overthink it. Do your last week at 800mg, then down to 400mg the next week, then down to your 175mg the following week. Taper AI the same way - cut it in half the second week, then in half again the following week. Adjust by bloodwork as needed.  

• Jan 28, 2019

danieltx said: Tapering things down is the best approach to make things as smooth as possible - hormone balance, strength adjustment, etc. Don't overthink it. Do your last week at 800mg, then down to 400mg the next week, then down to your 175mg the following week. Taper AI the same way - cut it in half the second week, then in half again the following week. Adjust by bloodwork as needed. Click to expand...

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Rapid hormone swings can really affect my mood/anxiety so I pin daily and taper up blasts and taper down to cruises. I usually give myself 7-10 days to transition from cruise to blast or vice/versa. Regarding AI, I found that if I always keep my test between 175-250mg a week, I can keep my Adex at 0.5mg a week (split daily). I don't blast test higher than 250, I just add other compounds for my blast (Deca, Tren, NPP, etc). That way my E2 is more or less stable.  

LK3 said: dear lord the years have taken us quite far away from the origens of these words.... maybe finding the original cfp would help you more with this one:lightbulb: this is more like a planned out tradition cycle then what n where these terms come from. Click to expand...

DOGGCRAPP said: Thank you. Man oh man....as the guy who developed the whole methodology to this and coined the terms "Blast and Cruise" back in the 1990's it hurts me to read some of these posts. Can I help some of you guys with a simple thought process? Writing up another post..... Click to expand...

Back in the day guys either did one of two things. a) Blasted year round and alot of those guys really messed up their health b) Blasted and then got off. Alot of guys liked to do the "off as long as I was on" regimen (alot of them said it as lip service and didnt really abide by it) so....obviously blasting year round was not healthy....and blasting and then getting off cold turkey (in my opinion) had these detriments 1) You spent half the time of the next cycle gaining back the size you lost when you got off 2) You would get off and get injured, fat, lose alot of your gains, alot of people didnt even lift because their hormonal chemistry was so messed up, depressed, did i say injured? Ill repeat "injured"...shoulders became a mess, knees ached and elbows suffered and with that created even more loss of gains, it was truly 2 steps forward and 2 steps backwards...and that was the problem with it. So with that said blasting and cruising is about two main things 1) getting yourself as normalized as possible as quickly as possible if you decide to cruise without testosterone...and that way involves ancilliary drugs.....namely HCG and other things....but again its determined by your own personal choices as a human being and what you are trying to do and/or 2) keeping as much muscle mass as possible while you go down to a low safe exog testosterone dosage and that involved back then and involves what you see today (lower mg test shots done EOD with an insulin needle usually) along with some ancilliary drugs alot of cruising decisions has to do with your goals....if its kids in the future there is one route, if its competing with the ultimate amount of muscle mass, its another similiar but slightly different route You need to ask yourself the questions...how can i get myself as normalized as possible as quickly as possible and how can i keep the most muscle mass on me....that is what a cruise is about. If alot of people in the bodybuilding industry looked at themselves with 150mg-300mg of testosterone a week as the true reality of what they are as a bodybuilder and they strived to be the best 150-300mg bodybuilder they possibly could be (and with all that involves / diet / training / supplements)........ and blasts as ways to get past their previous 150-300mg testosterone look......there would be so many happier people in this sport........try that sometime......during your cruise take pictures of what you look like 4 weeks in...THAT IS YOU... the true you of what you have accomplished as a bodybuilder....THATS YOU....if you suck at that 150mg-300mg look then you are obviously not doing things correctly outside of the drug usage..... but with that thought process of 150mg-300mg is the true you......then use your blasts to make a better version next time of the 150mg-300mg true you. Youll see that when you look at things that way....youll hone in to every single facet of bodybuilding to make the very best 150-300mg testosterone using you.....that youll end up in the long run a much much better bodybuilder because youll train your ass off, you will eat so correctly and on the mark, and you will do everything in your power to keep any and all muscle mass to always improve the (150-300mg) TRUE you  

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What Is The Blast and Cruise Protocol?

• Post author: ClickAndBuild
• Post published: August 12, 2020
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If you’ve ever done a research on anabolic steroids then there’s a high chance that you have heard of some people on various different steroid forums or maybe a local gym guy using steroids who mentioned that they are going through a blast and cruise protocol.

Is quite obvious that if that’s the first time you’re hearing about this, you may not know what this means. When I firstly heard about this, I’ve done a research for understanding “ What is Blast and Cruise Protocol? ” and luckily, there’s a lot of information about blasting and cruising so I found out everything that I needed.

However, you have to do quite a lot of research taking in consideration that there’s a lot of information, some of which I found very useful, other I thought to be quite useless.

If you are not sure what does Blast and Cruise means, then below you would find the explanation. In this article, I try to offer you the easy explanation of this in a summarized form. So,

Blasting and Cruising protocol, basically, means that you do not come off steroids.

Yes, there are protocols in which you are not stopping to use steroids. When I firstly read about this, I thought there’s something wrong. I mean, lots of questions popped into my mind. As I’ve already had a good amount of knowledge on steroids, I knew that using them for longer periods than you should is very unhealthy.

But then I found out about blasting and cruising which means that people doing so, are basically running steroids the entire year round. So, let me explain it properly.

When a person is cruising, he is running a moderate dosage of testosterone as a base compound in order to put him in the high-end range of the testosterone levels. As we know, usually, during a normal Testosterone cycle, dosages usually start at about 400 mg a week and they can be up to like 1000 mg per week. The situation is different with blasting and cruising protocol.

Most of people who blast and cruise are running doses of about 100-200 mg of Testosterone (usually Enanthate, but it could be others) for a week during the cruise. Buy Testosterone here.

Lately, there are people who tried to cruise with something else other than testosterone during cruise, however, this is not actually considered a real cruise protocol.

So, we’ve ruled out what cruising means, but…

What’s the Blast?

A blast is when a person is using multiple compounds at the same time in order to put on a lot of size. Most of the people are going to go through only one or maximum 2 blasts in a year and that’s because the more you have, the more is the risk. With 1-2 per year, you greatly minimize the risks of affecting your health and receiving negative side effects.

The blasting is what puts your body under a lot of stress and makes it unhealthy if not used properly. The blast means that you are running multiple anabolic and androgenic steroids (AAS) for several months. Using lots of steroids together for long periods of time is stressful for your body.

As soon as the blasting is finished (there are different types of blasts), the anabolic steroid user is going to come back to his usual cruising dosage and would continue doing so until the user is being ready to go through his next blast. But usually this is lasting months. That’s why most of people won’t ever go over 2 blasts per year, while some do it only once yearly.

By doing so, the users are able to let their liver enzymes, their lipids as well as other functions (generally – their health) to return back to the normal state. The cruising is very important here because the testosterone levels that you run during the cruise is going to help the user to maintain the muscle mass that he was able to gain during the blasting protocol. This is the reason why cruising with other compounds than testosterone is not considered actual cruising.

Why would someone want to do so? Well, the main reason why blasting and cruising users decide to go through this protocol is to avoid the hormonal disturbance of the Post Cycle Therapy (PCT). Running a PCT, the user is basically receiving a hormonal rollercoaster and a lot of people wanted to stop it.

For example, a normal steroid cycle of approximately 14 or 16 weeks is very often being followed by a Post Cycle Therapy (PCT) and the PCT is usually done with some medicines like for example Nolvadex or Clomid (most often).

In the time that these products are used for helping the user to restore the natural abilities of the body to produce the testosterone, the compounds are also coming with negative side effects too and then again, the user has a misbalance in hormones during this.

Although many people are going through this very well, we are all different and that’s why, for some people it just doesn’t work well and they don’t want to go through it again. They think that this is not worth it going back through all the struggle of recovering and bouncing back again. And this means that they are going through both mental and physical changes.

With blasting and cruising, you do not need a PCT plan. The Post Cycle Therapy is made for you to avoid low testosterone levels, but with a Blasting and Cruising Protocol – the natural testosterone production is not a problem anymore due to the administration of testosterone every week of about 100 – 200 mg. Once again, that’s why is so important to run specifically testosterone during cruising, otherwise, that’s not a cruising. It basically means that the person is replacing the natural hormones.

Blast and Cruise Cycle

There are various different blasting and cruising cycles with many different compounds in many various dosages that you can administer. They all depend on various different factors such as your size, tolerance, ultimate goals and so on and so forth. However, below we would give you an example of a really good blast and cruise cycle which is quite common among many people.

You can find below what does it looks like a simple blast and cruise cycle example:

• 8 weeks of Testosterone for 150 mg per week (usually, Testosterone Enanthate).

Those are the weeks (roughly 2 months), which are considered as your “cruise” protocol. But then, this is being followed by blasting, for example:

• First 4 weeks with Dianabol 50 mg per day
• 14 weeks cycle length with Testosterone Enanthate 500 mg per week
• 14 weeks with Deca Durabolin 400 mg per week.

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Once again, this is just an example of blasting, there are many others. For example, there are people who might want to change Dianabol for something else, usually that’s going to be either Superdrol or Anadrol. This is different based on your own preferences and final results desired. After you end your blasting cycle of 14 weeks, (but it can be shorter or longer, again, based on your needs and preferences), you need to switch back to 8 weeks of low dosage of 150 mg per week of Testosterone.

Basically, the cruising doesn’t change. You could use it for shorter or longer or higher or lower doses as well as various testosterone versions, but most often, it remains Testosterone Enanthate for 8 weeks 150 mg per week.

Most people change the blasting protocol that is different – steroid users can add Winstrol (Stanozolol) and Trenbolone to their blast if they want. Again, it depends on your personal preferences and ultimate goals.

Another thing to mention is the fact that there are some users who might even use SARMs for their cruise protocol, however, that’s not very popular because they are not as effective. SARMs are considered less suppressive than steroids (esterified testosterone) but they are far less effective too.

You could give a try to some of the most popular SARMs to use for a cruise like for example Ostarine and Cardarine and check how it works for you. Yet, most people don’t find them as good as Testosterone. In this situation, nothing else changes – as soon as those 8 weeks of cruising have finished, you should be able to start a new blast protocol, obviously, if you need and want it.

What I highly recommend is to do a blood work every once in a while. This way, you can check your lipids, liver as well as other organs in order to make sure that they function properly and you are healthy enough, as well as to make sure that the protocol doesn’t affect your health (and your organs, obviously) too much.

In addition to that, is very important for you to remember that this is a commitment, which means that you will need to inject absolutely every week in order to maintain your hormone levels at the higher end. Without doing so, you risk going into nasty symptoms.

Other than that, is highly recommended to have a healthy diet and generally – a healthy lifestyle with diet at point and proper exercise regime. Plus, getting yourself some cycle supporting products and supplements would be really helpful. This especially applies to blasting cycle when your body is put to much more stress. Dieting, exercising and using supplements would make sure that you remain healthy and you properly protect your organs.

For example, many oral steroids affect your liver in a bad way. In order to protect it, avoiding anything that affects your liver such as OTC medicines, alcohol consumption and various other factors is highly recommended. Using liver protecting supplements can greatly help too.

Another very important thing to keep in mind is that when you would want to come off your entire blast and cruise cycle, then that can be quite a hard process, since is hard to fully recover normally. This highly depends on how long you have been blasting and cruising too. Obviously – the longer you’ve been on your blasting and cruising cycle, then the harder is going to be to fully recover from it.

This is the reason why many people who are not doing it professionally, opt for shorter blasting and cruising cycles. Professionals, usually, go for longer blast and cruise cycles as they have enough experience and knowledge on how to do it properly and how to fully recover easier.

You might find online (on different steroid forums and blogs as well as other sources) various different strong protocols that are going to help you to recover back from a blast and cruise cycle.

Despite the fact that many of them are indeed helpful, we need to warn you to do a lot of research on this first, that’s because there have been situations when users did not fully recover from their blasting and cruising. In some instances, this can be unhealthy, but it does come with negative side effects (nasty symptoms).

Is very important for anyone to remember this when you consider to start the blasting and cruising protocol. While this can be super effective, is not meant for everyone. Only start one when you have enough experience with steroids and enough knowledge based on research you’ve previously done.

The Blast and Cruise Protocol, as almost anything in this life, comes with Pros and Cons. Here are 3 most obvious and biggest Pros and 3 most obvious and biggest Cons:

• Faster goals reach
• Steady gains without interruption
• No hormonal misbalance during PCT cycle
• You would require weekly injections for long time
• It may have a more negative impact on your health and organs
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Hi all, Having come to the end of my latest cycle, I've made the tentative decision to continue using testosterone for the foreseeable future. Prior to outlining my latest cycle, I don't think i would have a given the idea of cruising much consideration, but from some advice i was given on here and the issues i have off cycle, I began looking into it and have drawn up a really basic plan as below: Test E 120 mg EW ( Mon/Wed/Fri) 250 iu HCG EW i'm considering adding HGH at some point, but don't really know how or if it would be beneficial. For anyone with experience or who blasts and cruises, what do you think of think of this cycle? Also - What effect does cruising have on your balls? On cycle regardless of how much HCG I run, my balls shrink to nothing. My test levels prior to starting my cycle was 640 ng/dl - so a part of me wonders if i should just run a PCT and wait until my natty test levels are tanked before I cruise. The primary reason I want to blast and cruise is to maintain my size. Off cycle is a constant struggle to hold onto the weight my body doesn't seem to like or want. As a natural ectomorph, i understand that surpassing my genetic limit is a factor. One issue I have is that I'm now out of gear and awaiting my order, and due to the current worldwide situation, it's taking a lot longer than usual, so as a result I haven't pinned in nearly two weeks. I'm hoping it'll turn up this week and wondered if perhaps the first pin should be a little higher due to depleted test levels? The only thing i'm using is Proviron at 50 mg ED, which is keeping me full and hard. gal_register('gal_100_7501967', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_116_7501967', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_77_7501967', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

Stock up on your future orders for extra gear. I would do 250IU HCG the MWF of your injections for 750IU Total Your HRT is pretty basic. I don't know your age but I would also consider adding in 100mg Deca per week (can split that up into MWF as well). It's quite inexpensive. I would also make sure you are supplementing with DHEA and Vitamin D3. HGH is certainly beneficial but it has in my opinion the worst mileage relative to the price. For the price of 1 month of HGH you could use the same money and invest in MK677 + EQ + Deca + Anavar and get a lot farther gal_register('gal_78_7501968', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_100_7501968', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_87_7501968', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

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Originally Posted by Windex Stock up on your future orders for extra gear. I would do 250IU HCG the MWF of your injections for 750IU Total Your HRT is pretty basic. I don't know your age but I would also consider adding in 100mg Deca per week (can split that up into MWF as well). It's quite inexpensive. I would also make sure you are supplementing with DHEA and Vitamin D3. HGH is certainly beneficial but it has in my opinion the worst mileage relative to the price. For the price of 1 month of HGH you could use the same money and invest in MK677 + EQ + Deca + Anavar and get a lot farther Yes, my cycle is really basic, but as this is new territory for me, I just want to be cautious, but saying that, if i decide to run nandrolone , would NPP be ok? Is there any added benefit to taking 750 IU HCG EW? gal_register('gal_89_7502291', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_100_7502291', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_87_7502291', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

Originally Posted by Lee_1978 Hi all, Having come to the end of my latest cycle, I've made the tentative decision to continue using testosterone for the foreseeable future. Prior to outlining my latest cycle, I don't think i would have a given the idea of cruising much consideration, but from some advice i was given on here and the issues i have off cycle, I began looking into it and have drawn up a really basic plan as below: Test E 120 mg EW ( Mon/Wed/Fri) 250 iu HCG EW i'm considering adding HGH at some point, but don't really know how or if it would be beneficial. For anyone with experience or who blasts and cruises, what do you think of think of this cycle? Also - What effect does cruising have on your balls? On cycle regardless of how much HCG I run, my balls shrink to nothing. My test levels prior to starting my cycle was 640 ng/dl - so a part of me wonders if i should just run a PCT and wait until my natty test levels are tanked before I cruise. The primary reason I want to blast and cruise is to maintain my size. Off cycle is a constant struggle to hold onto the weight my body doesn't seem to like or want. As a natural ectomorph, i understand that surpassing my genetic limit is a factor. One issue I have is that I'm now out of gear and awaiting my order, and due to the current worldwide situation, it's taking a lot longer than usual, so as a result I haven't pinned in nearly two weeks. I'm hoping it'll turn up this week and wondered if perhaps the first pin should be a little higher due to depleted test levels? The only thing i'm using is Proviron at 50 mg ED, which is keeping me full and hard. Here’s what I do: Testosterone Cypionate - 200mg per week Primobolan Enanthate - 200mg per week HCG - 500ius per week Optional: Nandrolone Decanoate - 100-200mg per week (Good for your joints) Trenbolone Enanthate - 100mg per week (I don’t recommend cruising on Tren , as one of the major points of a cruise is to give your androgen receptors a rest. However it’s a small dose, but enough to keep you hard and nasty looking if you should find yourself cruising at maintenance calories or a slight deficit.) gal_register('gal_209_7502292', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_89_7502292', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_100_7502292', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_114_7502292', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_123_7502292', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_127_7502292', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_128_7502292', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_77_7502292', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars Here’s what I do: Testosterone Cypionate - 200mg per week Primobolan Enanthate - 200mg per week HCG - 500ius per week Optional: Nandrolone Decanoate - 100-200mg per week (Good for your joints) Trenbolone Enanthate - 100mg per week (I don’t recommend cruising on Tren, as one of the major points of a cruise is to give your androgen receptors a rest. However it’s a small dose, but enough to keep you hard and nasty looking if you should find yourself cruising at maintenance calories or a slight deficit.) Wow, that would be a cycle for me! What does the primo do for you while you cruise? gal_register('gal_209_7502312', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_89_7502312', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_100_7502312', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_114_7502312', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_123_7502312', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

Originally Posted by Lee_1978 Yes, my cycle is really basic, but as this is new territory for me, I just want to be cautious, but saying that, if i decide to run nandrolone , would NPP be ok? Is there any added benefit to taking 750 IU HCG EW? NPP would require every other day injections which would add confusion to your current protocol. You'd be better off using Deca and then NPP when you want to blast. gal_register('gal_89_7502314', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_87_7502314', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

Originally Posted by Lee_1978 Wow, that would be a cycle for me! What does the primo do for you while you cruise? Keeps protein synthesis sky high

Originally Posted by Windex NPP would require every other day injections which would add confusion to your current protocol. You'd be better off using Deca and then NPP when you want to blast. Cool. What dose would you use if running deca alongside test on a cruise? gal_register('gal_87_7503569', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

Originally Posted by Windex Stock up on your future orders for extra gear. I would do 250IU HCG the MWF of your injections for 750IU Total Your HRT is pretty basic. I don't know your age but I would also consider adding in 100mg Deca per week (can split that up into MWF as well). It's quite inexpensive. I would also make sure you are supplementing with DHEA and Vitamin D3. HGH is certainly beneficial but it has in my opinion the worst mileage relative to the price. For the price of 1 month of HGH you could use the same money and invest in MK677 + EQ + Deca + Anavar and get a lot farther Just realised you've answered my question about dosing deca. Isn't the point of a cruise about maintenance? Wouldn't it be better to save the EQ and Anavar for a blast? gal_register('gal_78_7503570', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_100_7503570', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_87_7503570', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

Originally Posted by Lee_1978 Just realised you've answered my question about dosing deca . Isn't the point of a cruise about maintenance? Wouldn't it be better to save the EQ and Anavar for a blast? Neither EQ or Anavar are androgenic -based compounds. Blasting works best with androgenic compounds in addition to increasing dose. At 200mg EQ per week or 20mg of Anavar a day you get tons of anabolic benefits without health side effects. gal_register('gal_78_7503574', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_119_7503574', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_229_7503574', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_87_7503574', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

If money is not a factor, theres no reason not to run hgh year round. I love that shit. It made me thicker and denser. On the flipside if you cannot commit to hgh theres no point in it. It takes years of use to REALLY see the size increase.

Originally Posted by Octaneforce If money is not a factor, theres no reason not to run hgh year round. I love that shit. It made me thicker and denser. On the flipside if you cannot commit to hgh theres no point in it. It takes years of use to REALLY see the size increase. Exactly - it is the barrier of entry when it comes to GH. MK677 seems to be the budget alternative though.

Originally Posted by Windex Exactly - it is the barrier of entry when it comes to GH. MK677 seems to be the budget alternative though. It's like the Walmart of GH, but works every time.

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Originally Posted by Windex Neither EQ or Anavar are androgenic -based compounds. Blasting works best with androgenic compounds in addition to increasing dose. At 200mg EQ per week or 20mg of Anavar a day you get tons of anabolic benefits without health side effects. Got it. I'm going to stick with deca and test for now and perhaps somewhere down the line I'll incorporate other compounds. gal_register('gal_78_7504160', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_229_7504160', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_87_7504160', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

Originally Posted by Windex Exactly - it is the barrier of entry when it comes to GH. MK677 seems to be the budget alternative though. I'm intrigued - one to read up on for sure.

Originally Posted by Lee_1978 Hi all, Having come to the end of my latest cycle, I've made the tentative decision to continue using testosterone for the foreseeable future. Prior to outlining my latest cycle, I don't think i would have a given the idea of cruising much consideration, but from some advice i was given on here and the issues i have off cycle, I began looking into it and have drawn up a really basic plan as below: Test E 120 mg EW ( Mon/Wed/Fri) 250 iu HCG EW i'm considering adding HGH at some point, but don't really know how or if it would be beneficial. For anyone with experience or who blasts and cruises, what do you think of think of this cycle? Also - What effect does cruising have on your balls? On cycle regardless of how much HCG I run, my balls shrink to nothing. Are you planning on staying on TRT for the rest of your life? You can recover after cruise but you are playing with fire if you stay on for extended periods of time. Regardless of HCG your still going to shut yourself down so your balls will still take a hit. If your worried about fertility I’d consider running a PCT now as you haven’t jabbed in a while and following this check your sperm so you have know your baseline and can freeze some as well. Then go back on and cruise if that’s what you want to do. My test levels prior to starting my cycle was 640 ng/dl - so a part of me wonders if i should just run a PCT and wait until my natty test levels are tanked before I cruise. The primary reason I want to blast and cruise is to maintain my size. Off cycle is a constant struggle to hold onto the weight my body doesn't seem to like or want. As a natural ectomorph, i understand that surpassing my genetic limit is a factor. It’s down to you man, if you understand the potential health risks and fertility isn’t a worry/you’ve frozen some sperm then go ahead! I started cruising (TRT = 150mg p/w, HCG 500IU 2x p/w) a couple of years ago and I love it, no dips in hormone levels gym performance is consistent... lots of benefits! One issue I have is that I'm now out of gear and awaiting my order, and due to the current worldwide situation, it's taking a lot longer than usual, so as a result I haven't pinned in nearly two weeks. I'm hoping it'll turn up this week and wondered if perhaps the first pin should be a little higher due to depleted test levels? The only thing i'm using is Proviron at 50 mg ED, which is keeping me full and hard. When your gear comes start with your planned TRT regimen (if you decide to go ahead), no need to shoot more. That’s your bigorexia brain kicking in... a few weeks taking nothing wont have much of an impact at all providing your eating well and training... ^^^ Hope this helps... gal_register('gal_100_7504734', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_116_7504734', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_77_7504734', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

Can you blast and cruise Anavar /primo ? if so Which one would you use if you could use either gal_register('gal_78_7504862', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

Originally Posted by SilverBack G's Can you blast and cruise Anavar/primo ? if so Which one would you use if you could use either Primo is fine as it is not known to be liver toxic. Anavar is one of the least liver toxic oral steroids , but they are all toxic to some degree. I would never run an oral year round, hell I don’t even run orals in my cycles. I think if you looked at two identical twins over 5 years and one took orals and the other didn’t, you wouldn’t know the difference. Orals just makes shit work faster but they don’t help you keep it once you’re off. gal_register('gal_189_7504880', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_78_7504880', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

I see, good to know thank you!

All in all i think its better to do a PCT. Why buff all the time?. Boring. Try to better training and diett. Add mk677. Learn how to get gympump wo the anabolics. So much efficient pre workout nuttrients. As Piana stated. Come off. Be in charge. Dont let your life and body be ruled by drugs. Ull be buff in two weeks next time. More mass u hold on to, less mass u gain next time because u dont wanna do crazy dosages. Sent fra min BLA-L29 via Tapatalk

Last edited by AR's King Silabolin; 04-13-2020 at 07:48 AM .

Originally Posted by AR's King Silabolin As Piana stated. Come off. Be in charge. Dont let your life and body be ruled by drugs. He should have taken his own advice....

Originally Posted by Test Monsterone Primo is fine as it is not known to be liver toxic. Anavar is one of the least liver toxic oral steroids, but they are all toxic to some degree. I would never run an oral year round, hell I don’t even run orals in my cycles. I think if you looked at two identical twins over 5 years and one took orals and the other didn’t, you wouldn’t know the difference. Orals just makes shit work faster but they don’t help you keep it once you’re off. Anavar was created in part for people with failing livers. Liver toxicity and Kidney Renal strain are the 2 most misunderstood organs with respect to AAS. I have a colleague that's been on Therapeutic Anavar for the last 5 years and has a better lipid profile than 99% of Americans walking around. I don't know where you got the idea that anything from orals isn't maintainable but that's simply not true. Just because the water weight disappears when you stop taking Dbol doesn't mean you didn't create muscular hypertrophy while on due to lifting heavier. gal_register('gal_78_7505045', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_91_7505045', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

Last edited by Windex; 04-13-2020 at 11:25 AM .

Originally Posted by kelkel He should have taken his own advice.... He should have stayed off the blow at 300 pounds

Originally Posted by kelkel He should have taken his own advice.... Stil, its a good advice. Sent fra min BLA-L29 via Tapatalk

Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars He should have stayed off the blow at 300 pounds Not necessarely. But when u in a periode of your life use heavy doses of HGH straight for 15 years and get addicted to stims later on, ull run into problems later, roidblows or not. Sent fra min BLA-L29 via Tapatalk

Originally Posted by i_SLAM_cougars He should have stayed off the blow at 300 pounds Shhh it was pre-workout powder.

Originally Posted by Windex Anavar was created in part for people with failing livers. Liver toxicity and Kidney Renal strain are the 2 most misunderstood organs with respect to AAS. I have a colleague that's been on Therapeutic Anavar for the last 5 years and has a better lipid profile than 99% of Americans walking around. I don't know where you got the idea that anything from orals isn't maintainable but that's simply not true. Just because the water weight disappears when you stop taking Dbol doesn't mean you didn't create muscular hypertrophy while on due to lifting heavier. I’m not saying that gains from orals are not maintainable. I’m saying that just because they help someone get to their goal faster through quicker absorption, water retention, etc., doesn’t mean it will improve one's physique in the long run. I think that people should aim to look the best they can at TRT doses, not at the peak of their cycles. To me, orals are like a turbo charger, in that yes it will make you go faster, but at the cost of wear and tear. Personally I’m not trying to hurry up and put on 10 lbs in 4 weeks. For what? If there is ANY chance of liver toxicity, I don’t want anything to do with it. Same with sarms . Chance of cancer? Fuck that. For what? 5 extra lbs you’ll probably lose right after the cycle is over. People on here are pretty wreckless with their protocols I believe. Steroid users in general are. I’m not trying to put my body at more risk than it needs to be, so orals to me are not worth it. I’m 33 years old, I trained 17 years naturally, why do I need to hurry up and add 10 lbs and also strain my liver. Maybe your friend doesn’t have liver problems, but all the studies show that anavar is hepatotoxic, so I’ll take those studies over someone’s anecdotal experience. gal_register('gal_78_7505125', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_165_7505125', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0'); gal_register('gal_141_7505125', '1', '1', '0', '0', '0');

Originally Posted by Test Monsterone Maybe your friend doesn’t have liver problems, but all the studies show that anavar is hepatotoxic, so I’ll take those studies over someone’s anecdotal experience. Var may be hepatotoxic in larger doses (to some) but I don't recall studies showing negative responses to low dose therapy. It's a healing agent even used low dose and long term in children.

Originally Posted by Eduke93 ^^^ Hope this helps... Great advice. I gave no fertility issues or concerns about freezing sperm. Have toy had a 'break' since starting cruising?

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Blast/cruise hcg?

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• Start date Jun 4, 2012

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• Jun 7, 2012

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For cruise I recommend HCG @ 250iu's X2 PW. For blasting HCG @ 500 EOD. This is my opinion.  

thank you pharma!  

Anytime.  

For blasting 500 IU 2x/wk is more than enough 250 IU 2x/wk for cruise is fine  

I'm on a blast/cruise currently as I had to cut my prior cycle short due to family issues and going through pct was not were I wanted to be. Running 250 wk test Cyp, 500 ius hcg x 2 a week, and .5 mgs arimidex e3d for 8 weeks. Taking just a standard dose of hcg to keep my testies normal size. My blast will 750mgs test c, no change in hcg dosing, and .5 mgs of arimidex eod. This is planned to continue for 8 weeks and may include other compounds.  

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• Jul 28, 2012

any more thoughts on adding HCG to a cruise cycle of 250mg of test e per week for 10 weeks?  

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