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Die Österreicher habens halt drauf, es war toll,viel besser als im Fernsehen.Würde wieder hingehen.Vielen Dank Herr Hader für den schönen Abend.

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Großartig - genau mein Humor- aktuelle Themen, so lebhaft habe ich Josef Hader noch nicht erlebt, 2 Stunden gingen wie im Flug vorbei- leider sieht man von den hinteren Plätzen nicht gut.

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Saturday 13 April 2024

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JOSEF HADER – WILD HADER

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At the Berlinale 2024, Josef Hader will premiere Andrea gets a Divorce, his second feature film as director. Considered to be Austria’s greatest cabaret artist ever, Hader has achieved numerous successes throughout his career, especially in German-speaking countries.

The comeback of josef hader as director (and of course as screenwriter).

Considered to be Austria’s greatest ever stand-up comedian, Josef Hader is about to return to film with his second directorial feature, following the success of Wild Mouse in 2017. Andrea Gets a Divorce , this is the title of the film, will in fact be presented at the Berlinale 2024 in a city, and in a country, where the director and actor has enjoyed several successes.

Josef Hader, who grew up on a farm in Nöchling, in the Waldviertel (Lower Austria), is a leading figure in German-language theatre and cabaret, as can be seen from his numerous tours in DACH (Germany, Austria and Switzerland) and the many awards he has received, also in the film sector, despite a careful selection of projects to take part in. Actor Hader prefers author Hader’s work to that of others, finding it more stimulating to reflect and write than only to perform. Occupational hazard? Perhaps, let’s see why in three acts.

After graduating from high school and completing his civil service, Josef Hader, then aged 20, decided to enrol at university to become a teacher, specifically of German and history. His interest in cabaret was cultivated in parallel, mainly in pubs and clubs in Lower Austria and Vienna. The definitive turning point was not long in coming. In 1985 Hader was awarded the Salzburger Stier prize, the first in a long series of important theatre awards. Three years later, however, the definitive turning point was reached with the writing of Biagn oder Brechen . A turning point in every sense, considering that Josef Hader had already decided to give up his studies to concentrate on cabaret.

Hader’s new programme evolved from a political show – quite common in the 1980s – to a one-act cabaret, markedly theatrical. In fact, all subsequent programmes, from Bunter Abend (1990) to Hader on Ice (on tour since 2021), not forgetting Im Keller (1992) and Privat (1994), consist of continuous associative monologues, streams of consciousness interrupted by a few typical gimmicks of invisible theatre such as technical breakdowns, audience disturbances and whistles. In Hader muss weg (2004), Josef Hader even managed to further evolve his skills not only as a performer but also as a scriptwriter, bringing seven different roles to the stage and using cinematic means such as close-ups and music score, effectively mixing cabaret, theatre and cinema in an evocative and engaging avant-garde show.

Mission accomplished, I would say, for someone who has always said he prefers the exciting stage art to cinema and who says he is more interested in his own writing. ‘Having to communicate with the audience and depict oneself is an exciting and by no means safe struggle,’ Hader tells Künstler Leben in an interview with Christian Handler, ‘it has rarely been the case that I have found such an interesting finished role. Here, Stefan Zweig is one of them’.

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Thanks to his success in theatre, Josef Hader soon became a popular actor, who, however, true to his artistic credo, would only appear in a limited number of films, preferring a few projects in which he could collaborate on scripts or roles that were really interesting to him. Apart from the hilarious performance of Simon Brenner in the tetralogy directed by Wolfgang Murnberger and based on Wolf Haas’s detective stories – Come Sweet Death (2000), Silentium (2004), The Bone Man (2009) and Life eternal (2015), where he was also a co-writer, Maria Schrader’s 2016 film Stefan Zweig: Farewell To Europe , is one of the few examples of an interesting project for him.

This film, presented in Berlin and Vienna two days apart, depicts the last years of the life of Stefan Zweig, the Austrian writer who died by suicide in exile together with his second wife Lotte. Josef Hader’s portrayal of the author from the Viennese upper middle class was praised by many and described by some as “melancholic but full of respect”, so much so that it deserved a nomination for the 2017 EFAs, the European Oscars according to some journalists. This interesting combination of Germany, the film’s co-producer nation, and the awards won will be a kind of constant in Hader’s career since his much-loved theatre time.

What made Josef Hader very popular in Germany, however, was certainly the tragicomic road-movie India (1993), based on the play written by Hader himself together with his colleague Alfred Dorfer, co-founder of the Schlabarett and, from India onwards, also one of the best-known German-speaking cabaret artists. And this only three years after winning the Deutscher Kleinkunstpreis (a success repeated in 2022) for the 1990 show Bunter Abend . This opened the way for the immediately following evolution, made up of monologues narrated in such a way as to better appeal the audience who, feeling directly involved by a neutral narrator and not by a performer, do not take their eyes off the stage.

As in Austria, so in Germany, and the fact that he received the Bayerischer Kabarettpreis and the Göttinger Elch in 2011 for his best-of Hader spielt Hader is proof of this. But the Germany – Josef Hader pairing does not just end there: his directorial debut, the funny Wild Mouse , was presented at the Berlinale 2017 , in competition for the Golden Bear. And this will also be the case for his new work as director – and, of course, screenwriter – which will be among the highlights of the 74th edition, scheduled from February 15 to 25, 2024.

“Art is what is not necessary,” Hader concludes in the aforementioned interview, alluding to the fact that criticism of society is not a mission and that the artist must do what is not necessary. Personally, I cannot say whether he is right or wrong. But given the result, I already know what to believe.

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How Josh Hader's slow start has overshadowed two significant changes to Astros closer's pitching repertoire

Hader has allowed a run in three consecutive outings for just the fourth time in his career.

Astros closer Josh Hader has had a curious start to the season, his first since signing a five-year pact worth $95 million with Houston in January. He's already made five appearances over the team's first 11 games, including on Sunday against the Texas Rangers , when he closed out a win to record his first save of the year. 

Yet Hader has experienced his share of early season turbulence. He's suffered two losses to date and, for just the fourth time in his career , he's surrendered at least a run in three consecutive outings. That includes his converted save. To recap those games:

March 31 vs. Yankees : Hader entered a tied game in the top of the ninth. He yielded a pair of hits, including a single to former Padres teammate Juan Soto that plated the go-ahead run. Hader was charged with a loss.

April 2 vs. Blue Jays : Hader entered with a one-run lead. He erased a leadoff single with a double-play ball. He then walked a batter before surrendering a go-ahead home-run to Davis Schneider . Again, he was charged with the loss.

April 7 vs. Rangers: Hader entered with a three-run lead. He walked a batter who later scored on a Justin Foscue base hit. Hader recovered to coerce a game-ending double-play ball off the bat of Ezequiel Duran to secure the save.

Even great pitchers -- and Hader is, without question, one of the best relievers of his generation -- can have bad weeks. Most of the time, that's all it is. Sometimes, though, diving into a small sample can reveal interesting differences in how an established player is conducting business. That indeed proved to be the case with Hader.

Rather than fret too much about Hader's results to date, we figured it would be more worthwhile to explore two notable tweaks he's made to his game.

1. More sliders, fewer sinkers

Whenever you're sizing up a pitcher, one of the most obvious places to look is their pitch usage breakdown. 

Sure enough, Hader has thus far deviated from what has been a tried-and-true approach for him to spam the opposition with his sinker. He's never thrown fewer than 65% sinkers in a season, and he's dipped below 60% for a month only twice in his career: once in May 2021, the other in June 2023. So far this season, Hader is throwing 58.8% sinkers. If it holds -- and April is far from over -- it would represent the lowest sinker usage month in his career. 

Hader has replaced those missing sinkers by upping his slider usage rate. He's chucked it less than 30% of the time in each of the last three seasons. Yet in 2024, he's throwing his slider at a career-high 40.2% rate. That would represent a new single-month high.

Josh Hader, K'ing the Side. ⛽️ Different uniform. Same Josh Hader. pic.twitter.com/oZ7hCeXLbP — Rob Friedman (@PitchingNinja) March 28, 2024

Hader hasn't publicly discussed why he's throwing more sliders. Maybe he simply feels more comfortable with the pitch, or maybe it had to do with the opponents he faced. Making an assumption that these shifts are wholesale changes is part of the danger that comes with reading too much into small samples.

Say Hader is intentionally throwing more sliders as a broader shift. Why would he mess with an approach that isn't broken? Our hunch is to lean into the modern trend of prioritizing the individual's best pitch. Hader's slider is his top swing-and-miss offering and the pitch that he's least likely to give up a home run on. 

To wit, prior to the home run Schneider hit on April 2, Hader had not allowed a home run on a slider since July 13, 2022.

2. Working down, not up

In addition to altering his pitch mix, Hader has taken to pitching down in the zone more frequently than in the past. According to TruMedia's data, Hader has located more than 57% of his pitches in the lower half of the zone. Last season, for reference, he located 39.5% of his pitches in that same area of the zone.

It may seem obvious that a pitcher shifting away from their fastball and toward their slider would also change their average location in a manner consistent with Hader's tweak -- generally, pitchers are most prone to elevate their fastballs while keeping their sliders down -- but that effect isn't the only thing going on here.

Indeed, take a look at Hader's sinker location over the last five years:

Again, you may ask yourself why Hader would make this shift -- if it is indeed an intentional one. Our guess is that it would be in response to pitching in a less-friendly pitching environment than he experienced as a member of the San Diego Padres. Pitching down in the zone, then, could be Hader's way of fending off additional home runs. Whether or not that works out in practice is to be determined. So far, it's left him one double play away from matching last year's total in 56 fewer games.

Will Hader stick by these changes, and will they allow him to continue to post his usual superb results? We'll have to keep an eye out. At minimum, he serves as a good reminder that there are potentially interesting things to be found in small samples.

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.

Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?

My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

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If you are considering this on the 2015 June Baltic cruise on Voyager; my suggestion is don't. There is so much to do in St. Petersburg and although a train is one of my favorite ways to travel the time would be far better spent in St. P.

Thanks for the advice. Yes, this would be on the Voyager during the 2015 season but not yet sure exactly which cruise.

We did the Moscow excursion "on a different luxury line", but from your brief description it sounds very much like the same trip, so I will operate on that assumption. It is a VERY long day! We left the ship at 5:30 AM and returned at 12:30 AM. The highspeed train trip is comfortable, and while they call it "Business Class" it does not compare well to the equivalent class on say Rail Europe. When we did it in 2011, we did have highspeed both ways, and the trip back seemed much longer as the adrenaline and excitement had worn off!:D

Moscow itself is not that terribly different from any other big city in the world, but this Cold War kid never thought he would ever stand in Red Square, never mind walk the grounds of The Kremlin, or tour The Kremlin Palace, or see (but not visit) Lenin's Tomb, or visit The Armoury. But he did, and he loved every minute of it! Yes, it is a long day, and you barely scratch a scratch on the surface, but it is worth it. There is a tremendous amount to see in St. Petersburg, but every Baltic cruise goes to St. Petersburg, so you can go back if you choose to. Not every cruiseline offers you the chance to see Moscow.

I have not personally done this tour, but our last time in St Petersburg, the private guide that we hired for a day was leading the regent tour to Moscow on the high speed train the next day. He said it was way better than the previous alternative, which was flying to Moscow and back. He said that you actually got to Moscow faster because you didn't have to deal with airline checkin etc. it did seem like a very long day to me, and there is so much to see and do in st. Petersburg that I didn't consider doing it.

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We toured to Moscow from St. Petersburg via the hi-speed SAPSAN train last September, from a Baltic cruise on the Oceania Marina. You need to have a two-night, three day port call in St. Petersburg to take this tour because the tour typically leaves the ship around 5:00 - 5:30 AM and doesn't return until after midnight the next day. We didn't take the ship's tour; we made private arrangements with TravelAllRussia for three days of touring, the first and third days in St. Petersburg and the second day the tour to Moscow by train. Our cost for the private tour for three days was about the same as what the ship charged for the excursion to Moscow alone. There are a number of private tour agencies that operate in St. Petersburg and offer the Moscow train tours; we would strongly recommend them over the ship's tours.

All three days had private guides with car and driver. The second day, the driver picked us up at the ship and took us to the train, but we were alone on the train, and met in Moscow by the guide on the station platform. After our tour and dinner, we were brought back to the train and after the return train trip met by the driver and taken back to the ship. Because you are alone on the train you must have your own Russian visas.

If this is your first visit to St. Petersburg, I would agree there is much more to see there. We found Moscow somewhat a disappointment, particularly Red Square. The Kremlin and the cathedral in Red Square were also worth seeing. But the best thing we saw was the Moscow subway! I worked for the Washington Metro system back in the 1980s as it grew from 40 to 80 miles and although I was in the computer area, I learned a lot about the challenges of running a subway system. We used the Moscow system to get across the city from where we had dinner to the train station, and I was amazed at the cleanliness', speed of operation, the short headways maintained, and the courtesy of everyone involved. A very impressive experience!

We had been to St. Petersburg before, and so had the time to take a day and go to Moscow. Also, I really like trains, and the SAPSAN is a German train set running on Russian rails. Seats are like first class domestic air, spacious but not too plush or comfortable, but with enough room. Not too much recline, and almost 8 hours on the train in two shots is a lot for an old man. They come through and sell drinks, candy, etc. but the sellers don't speak English and no one around us helped, so we had just poor coffee once coming, and brought stuff with us for the trip back. Not too much to see from the train either, particularly on the return when it is night the whole way.

If you decide to go, take a private tour and avoid the overly expensive ship's tour. I'm glad we did it, but wouldn't bother to repeat the tour; we've seen Moscow.

Thanks so much to all of you for the thorough and thought insight. Yhe information you have provided is most helpful.

countflorida: Your detailed post is very helpful. We are not quite ready for a Baltic cruise but should do so within a year. Time enough to do our pre travel research, bookings and visa gathering.:) Thank you!

Emperor Norton

Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.   Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?   My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

I did this on Seabourn. IMO DONT. Take Aeroflop (er Aeroflot). The train has non folding seats where you are literally knee to knee with your fellow passenger (facing each other). Further they don't believe in air conditioning. It's also the worlds slowed bullet train. I think I would have found more enjoyment wandering around the St. Petersburg and Moscow airports.

Countflorida,

This is a little off topic,, however we had planned a river cruise in Russia but decided we would rather stay on land and have booked about two weeks with Travel-All-Russia using the private guide and driver. I'm curious as to how you found them as a tour company.

The guides they provided were fine. We had a different guide each of the days in St. Petersburg, but both were flexible, pleasant, knowledgeable and spoke English very well, as did the guide in Moscow, incidentally. She was a bit aloof, distant, not too friendly, but otherwise fine. In fact, she was the one who suggested taking the Metro, which unexpectedly became one of the highlights of the Moscow excursion. If I have a complaint with AllTravelRussia, it is with their plan and its execution (more later).

I had requested emphasis on World War II (in Russia, the Great Patriotic War) sites and info. In scheduling us, they weren't careful about dates and a couple of the sites we wanted to see were scheduled on the third day, after we'd been to Moscow. But both sites were closed that day of the week, and that info was readily available, right on web sites describing them. Also, the included meals (lunches in St. Pete, dinner in Moscow) were not what we asked for: light meals with some choices, so we could avoid things we didn't like and choose things we did like. My request was ignored; we were given full Russian meals with a fixed menu, no choice. On the first day, a fish dish was the entre, but I am allergic to fish. Fortunately, I had the e-mail I'd sent with me and showed it to the guide, and she was able to change my entre to chicken, which was very good actually. But we didn't want a 3-4 course lunches or dinner (in Moscow). We had the guide drop the lunch the third day, although we never got any credit or refund. But, particularly in contrast to the ship's tours, the prices were so reasonable we didn't worry too much about it.

The people who were on the ship's tour to Moscow saw us boarding the same train for which they were forced to queue up and wait on the way back, and asked us what we had done. I was candid and open so they were not happy when I explained what we had arranged and particularly what it had cost. Also, when we returned to the ship, we found they had laid on a late supper for those who had gone to Moscow, so up we went and had something. Well, it turns out the late supper was supposed to be just for those on the ship's tour, but we and others on 'independent' tours, there were a dozen or more of us, crashed the party, actually got there first, and they didn't realize it until the larger group arrived and there weren't enough tables/places set. By that time, the 'independents' had all gotten served and were eating; what could they do?

A couple from the larger group sat down with us and asked us about our tour, and they were the ones I told about our arrangement and its cost. They turned to others who’d been with them and announced the details, loudly enough so the whole room heard, which started a lot of bitching and complaining. I gathered they weren't very happy with the ship's tour to begin with, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. We finished up and beat it out of there, but overheard later that one of the excursion staff came to check on something and ran into a real mess. I caught a cold on the trip, which forced me to bed the second day following in Tallinn, so by the time we reappeared we heard about the contretemps' but apparently no one recalled who started it, thankfully.

Because of what happened to us, I would probably not use AllTravelRussia if I were to go again, or if I did, I would be sure to get confirmation of every detail of the tour. They do have good reviews generally, and we were certainly helped by their visa department and liked the guides and drivers. Their weakness, I say now with full 20:20 hindsight, is that once the sales person who plans the tour, sells it to you and collects your money, he (or she) transfers the plan to their Russia office for implementation; there is no follow-up to make sure it gets done right. And that is where our problems arose; we paid for a custom tour but got a standard package with a few destinations switched, and no one checked them out, even to see when they were open the day we were scheduled to go. If you check every detail that’s important to you, it should be OK, but that’s a hell of a way to have to do business, in my opinion.

Thank you for the 20/20 hindsight observation on your Russian tour operator, and better priced than the ship's excursion cost.

Thanks very much for the feedback.

We had the same experience as you so far as price. We originally booked a Viking Cruise but, hearing some things about the river cruises that made us unhappy, looked into other options. T-A-R cost the same or less than a cruise and had us in hotels for 11 days. We opted for the private tour. They have three tour levels, based on hotels. We originally opted for the four star as it did not cost much more than the three star hotels. Finally we decided to throw it all in and upgraded to five star. In Moscow we will be at the newly opened Kempinsky which is two blocks from Red Square. In St. Petersburg it is the Grand Hotel Europe, one of the most vaunted luxury hotels in Russia. Location is important for us as the tours use up only part of the day so being in the center of everything for our independent touring is important. As with many other cities, the less you pay, the farther out of the center of town you are.

We have been working with our salesman in D.C. and he seems to get back to us with the changes we want. He recently returned from Russia so is up on everything. When I asked they said they paid the full TA commission if I wanted so I got my usual TA on board so he is watching our back and giving us that extra level of comfort. He also set up our air, which I know pays him little or nothing, and got us business class for much less than T-A-R wanted for economy, though it took working for a while with a consolidator. He's happy to get his 10 percent on this trip without having booked it. He also took care of the trip insurance. We've been doing a lot of research on the CC sister site Trip Advisor and will write a report there. We will, I guess, become a source of info for CC members after having spent 5 days in Moscow and 6 in SP.

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scubacruiserx2

Anybody considering a day trip to Moscow from St. Petersburg on the Sapsan may want to look at our travelogue filled with pictures.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1927687

Very informative. Thanks dor sharing. Jeff

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