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The smoothest shaft in the heavy weight iron shaft category.  Promotes a higher ball flight than its closest competitors.

Introduction

Most people would look at the stranglehold that Dynamic Gold and Project X have on the heavy weight iron shaft market and choose another battle to fight.  Kim Braly isn’t most people.  He jumped into the fight with the KBS Tour, and has converted thousands of golfers, including major champions, to his brand.  In this review, we examine why.

Where most heavy weight iron shafts are focused on stability, the trademark of the KBS Tour is its smooth feel.  There’s a distinct feeling of the shaft loading and kicking during the swing.  This is not to say that the shaft isn’t stable.  Most of the action is in the middle of the shaft, so you don’t sacrifice a stable tip to get this smooth feel.

Performance

Though it’s not a night and day difference, the KBS Tour does tend to promote a higher ball flight than its competitors Dynamic Gold and Project X.  This makes it an excellent choice for golfers who tend to be low ball hitters or those who simply prefer to see the ball in a higher trajectory window.

If you prefer a heavy weight iron shaft, but want a smoother feel, KBS Tour is for you.  It’s also a great choice for players who are seeking a slightly higher ball flight from their iron play.

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What does the KBS Tour 120 shafts compare to vs S300 shaft? Driver swing speed of 95-98 mph 3/4 handicap

“Though it’s not a night and day difference, the KBS Tour does tend to promote a higher ball flight than its competitors Dynamic Gold and Project X.”

Can i use this shaft for my wedges? Or this shaft is for iron only (3-9,P)?

KBS makes a wedge version.

I just purchased Titleist AP2 Irons with KBS regular shafts, they are very balanced irons and mid-high ball flight. With this iron shaft there is no whipping and very smooth, I am 62 Years old but still can swing a club and I am very impressed with the combo, spending a little extra money for your irons is well worth it.

My elbows struggle with vibration of steel shafts. I am 65 years old and still play competitive Senior Amateur Golf events. I like your c tapered 110 feel. Will adding an after market dampening rod help the vibration issues of your shafts. Any suggestions appreciated.

I’ve used vibration dampening products, and they do change the feel, but I don’t know if they will help with your pain.

71 Young man, if you still have pain. Your left hand grip for righty is way to weak . Go stronger and don’t pull so much . Happy Birthday .

What is an alternative choice for the KBS Tour S shaft? Best Nippon or True Temper Product Models as an alternative choice??? Please respond to my email address submitted, already get your newsletter.

Stock advice: work with a fitter to find a good solution. Blind guess: I would take a look at the Nippon Modus for smooth feel.

I am currently playing Mizuno Pro 900 irons with the KBS tour x shaft. I am going to get a set of Mizuno mp-18 blade irons. If I go to the Nippon modus 120 x shaft am I going to have a similar feel but lighter. Mizuno does offer a KBS shaft in lighter shaft X flex. Thank you, J.Baker

I think you will find the Modus 120 to be a bit different than the KBS Tour. I would suggest working with a fitter to find something that fits your swing.

I am purchasing Titleist 716 AP1 irons and are considering the Dynamic Gold or KBS shaft. I play of 10 but are wayward with my irons. Which shaft is better for a straighter ball flight and more consistency? Thanks Ben

That depends on which one fits you better. I would suggest working with a fitter before you lay down your money.

I read your review on the Taylormade M2 TOUR irons and disagreed, then read the KBS review which is what I have on my M2 TOURS and I love them. Comment? Thanks, Jeff

Comment on what?

Hi, I cannot find the perfect balance and feel I had on my old Pings i15 with the first version of the kbs tour S. What was the weight of those shafts?

I’m not aware of any substantial changes to the KBS Tour since it was released. KBS would have more information on that.

Is the KBS TOUR stiff to heavy a shaft for a 13 handicapper swinging 90’s? I usually hit R300 really high but feedback and distance is hortible.

If you’re currently playing Dynamic Gold, the weight difference is negligible.

What is the difference between the kbs tour 130x and the tour v with tour spec 130x ?

We have a review of the Tour V here: https://pluggedingolf.com/kbs-tour-v-iron-shaft-review/

Hi – is the True Temper XP 115 S300 (fitted, 88swing speed, mid launch and 6200 spin with 6i) a comparable shaft to the Tour Stiff?

The KBS Tour is heavier but otherwise there are some similarities.

hi I currently play off 6 and play titleist ap1 with xp 95 shafts , I am considering changing to tailormade tp mb with kbs reg flex can give some advice ? I fear the kbs maybe to heavy ??? kind regards Graeme

Adding nearly 30 grams will be a significant change. Have you talked with a fitter about it? Tried some irons with similar weight shafts?

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Hi Matt, I currently play TaylorMade R9 irons with a Taylormade 90 by FST Stiff shaft. I’m upgrading to Tailor-made M4 irons with a Max 85 Shaft. Any thought on which would be more comparable to my existing shafts? The Stiff or a Regular Max 85? I think there both lighter than my existing shaft. Thanks.

I would suggest trying both with the help of a fitter to find the better fit.

May I know how much weights for the S shaft ?

The stiff weighs 120 grams.

What’s the weight? I have these in my a12 pros and I can’t seem to find any specs on them. Thanks

I purchased some Mizuno irons with KBS shafts. On the label they say KBS under that is Tour by FST, by the KBS it has a small R inside a circle. I am trying to find out if these are regular or stiff, nothing on the shafts say either regular or stiff.

That sounds like a regular flex, but without seeing a picture I can’t say for certain.

No, small r inside circle is the registered trademark, not regular.

What shafts are used for the king cobra f9, beside fujikura atoms 6 one length or KBS 0.37 Tip

HI Matt, I’ve been gaming the original KBS since 2009 w/ my Mizuno MP 58’s MMC. I’m eyeing a set of MP 18 SC in the KBS tour. Would you say the shaft profile and characteristics is the same as the original KBS that I’m playing now?

To my knowledge, KBS has not changed the original KBS Tour since it was released.

I am currently playing Mizuno Hot metal withveylix Alpina 673 shaft. I am 72 and these irons are terrible for me. Handicap on way up

Been fitted for X100s and KBS X shafts in new srixon zx7s. Numbers on the trackman are neck and neck. Averaging 98mph club head speed with 7-iron. A lot of comments I read say they prefer the X100s and that they flight lower than KBS x.

Thoughts on the two shafts? How much lower would the x100s flight and would it be worth taking into account?

Did you see a lower flight from the X100 in your fitting? My experience is that DG flies a bit lower than KBS Tour, but your results may vary.

Hi , I am 47 and my handicap is 13, I ordered for Miura MC-501 iron sets but little confused whether i am gonna fit KBS Tour R 110 g or Stiff 120 g !!! Could you please suggest which one will be perfect for me ? Thanks in advance

The only way to know which shaft is best is to get fit. Online, all anyone can do is guess, unfortunately.

There’s the occasional discussion on the internet from time to time about KBS Tour being ‘counterbalanced’ and ‘building to lower swingweights’ (I presume in comparison to DG). Is this true for this shaft?

That’s a good question. I’ve never noticed the KBS Tour to feel strongly counterbalanced, so I’ve never taken the time to measure. So, short answer: I’m not sure.

Just picked up a set of KBS Tour By FST shafts but they don’t have a weight or flex sticker on them. How can I tell what flex they are?

You could have a club builder check their CPM to get an idea of that.

Does it get old telling people to work with a fitter to find the best shaft for them? lol

No, I never get tired of giving people the advice that will actually help them play better golf.

Old thread I know. Is there any whippy feeling with these in the tour flt 110 regular flex? My ball speed with 7 iron with true temper Amt red hovers around 115. Not sure swing speed. I know go get fitted, but how similar to the amt red would these fall? Of course not the descending weight, but as for whippy- I don’t want that lol.

Feel is subjective, so unfortunately I can’t tell you whether or not these will feel “whippy” to you.

Matt: I love my new Mizuno JPX923 irons with KBS Tour Reg. Shafts. I have 4 Ben Hogan Wedges I really like but they have APEX 4 shafts which are too stiff for me now that I am 70 years old. In your opinion will the KBS Tour Reg. Shafts be good for my Hogan Wedges? Thanks

I can’t speak to your swing but I like having matching shafts from my irons through my wedges.

Are these like the c taper where most people play the stiff + if they are typically x flex?

The C Taper and KBS Tour are very, very different shafts.

I purchased p770s and didn’t do enough research and got kbs tour black shafts 120g.

My driver swing speed is about 97mph – are these shafts too heavy for me?

I hit the ball okay but notice my carry distances are much shorter than my old callaway rogue st max irons

I would never tell a player that a given weight is universally too heavy or too light for a given speed. What matters is A) fit and B) goals. If you want to get more distance, 120 gram shafts probably isn’t the way unless going lighter causes your ball striking to suffer.

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KBS Tour FST Shaft Review – Specs, Flex Weight

Everyone wants to be able to game the same shafts they see the pros use.

That’s why a lot of players tend to gravitate towards KBS shafts. KBS is one of the leading shaft manufacturers in the world because their shafts are tour-proven.

They are known for affording the player maximum control and accuracy.

But let’s face it. Not all of us swing our irons like the pros. You have to really be aware of the type of player you are if you want to lower your score.

To that end, KBS does make shafts for us mortals. Case in point: the KBS Tour FST shaft.

Today we will be taking a look at the KBS Tour FST and letting you know who should be gaming it.

KBS Tour FST Shaft Overview

The whole point of the KBS Tour FST shaft is to help slower swingers transfer maximum energy from their swing to the ball.

The KBS Tour FST shaft comes in both relatively light and heavyweight versions so any kind of player should be able to find the right fit.

We really liked the looks of the KBS Tour FST shaft. It distinguishes itself with a black nickel finish which to us, looks more like gunmetal.

It still bears the classic “KBS” lettering in red and black in a block in the middle of the shaft.

So right away, you can tell that this is a KBS shaft; but you can also tell that there is something different about it.

The KBS Tour FST is also a low torque shaft. Despite weight savings in the steps, the KBS Tour FST resists twisting and warping very well.

So you still get that smooth, stable KBS feel from a more accessible steel iron shaft. When we tested the KBS Tour FST, we noticed very little activity.

However, the reaction that was present revealed itself in the mid/low section of the shaft.

If you are not a fan of whippy shafts and need more stability as you load up on the shaft, the  KBS Tour FST is certainly worth a look.

Why is the KBS Tour FST So Popular?

We can think of a few reasons why this shaft is a hit among amateur players but for us, the KBS Tour FST was a hit because it offers classic KBS feel.

While it can be said that the KBS Tour FST is a stout shaft, it never feels boardy. Even in the stiffest flex, you get a smooth transition that you feel you can work with.

How Does the KBS Tour FST Shaft Perform?

It’s odd, but we would say that the KBS Tour FST shaft feels active without actually being active.

What we mean is that when we tested it, we noticed that it felt light in the hands and while it doesn’t bend much, you feel like all of your swing energy is getting through to the ball.

This shaft just sort of begs to be swung.

The KBS Tour FST naturally produces a mid launch window and it’s very easy to get a beautiful baby draw out of it.

It was producing spin rates just under the 7,000 RPM threshold with our 7-iron so the spin is relatively low.

We’re not going to lie, you still need a moderate swing speed in order to get optimal distance from this shaft. We’re talking at least 85 MPH with your 7-iron.

But if you can manage that, the KBS Tour FST will reward you with improved accuracy, smooth feel and a considerable distance boost.

For instance, our testers were averaging a distance of 156.1 yards (7-iron) after three swings with the KBS Tour FST.

The KBS Tour FST also helped us thread the needle beautifully on narrow fairways and allowed us to work the ball masterfully around the pin.

KBS Tour FST Shaft Specs

What flexes are available what swing speeds do they suit.

For moderate swing speed players (85 – 90 MPH) the regular or stiff flex would likely work well.

For faster swingers (90+ MPH) we would recommend the extra stiff flex.

What Weights Are Available? What Swing Speeds Do They Suit?

If you have a moderate tempo, the 110g version may work.

The 120g and 130g versions should be reserved for fast swingers with aggressive tempos.

Why is it So Good?

The KBS Tour FST is a good shaft because it allows players of varying tempos to really load up without losing any accuracy or stability.

Above all, this is a shaft that will improve your iron precision.

KBS Tour FST First Impressions

We love KBS shafts but a lot of them look so much alike.

What we liked about the KBS Tour FST right away was that it had a different finish from the common polished chrome that adorns most KBS shafts.

Key Features & Performance

Mass and radius have been reduced in each step of this shaft to allow for more efficient transfer of swing energy to the ball.

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The KBS Tour FST works really well with both GI and blade irons. You get the same, smooth transition and acute workability.

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We liked that the spin rates picked up a little bit with our wedges. It compensates a bit for the relatively low launch.

KBS Tour FST Pros & Cons

• It looks great
• Smooth transition
• Very stable
• Increases iron precision
• It’s affordable
• Not great for slow swingers

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  We feel that the KBS Tour FST shaft would be ideal for mid handicappers on the verge of breaking into the single-digit handicap neighborhood.

It will give you better accuracy and workability from your irons and is a good stepping stone towards those heavier, more powerful iron shafts.

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KBS Tour 90 Review – Setting A New Standard In Steel Shafts

The story of KBS Tour shafts is the joining of two paths into a committed partnership aiming to establish a new vision of golf shaft performance and design.

FEMCO Steel Technology (FST), the golf branch of the Far East Machinery Co. Ltd, aims to provide high-quality and cost-effective steel products including golf shafts through constant innovation and technological advancements. FST continues to provide high-quality shafts at affordable prices.

Kim Braly designed innovative golf shafts throughout his career. He has validated his designs with golfers playing on the various professional golf tours. Furthermore, Kim used feedback from these golfers in the development of new products.

In 2008 FST America Corporation decided to partner with the most sought-after golf shaft designers to incorporate pioneering designs with its state-of-the-art manufacturing facility. This led to the partnership between FST and Kim Braly.

Since its launch, KBS has set a new standard in steel shafts with its unparalleled growth and acclaim.

KBS shafts have grown a significant share of the market and are now used in the irons of most major golfing brands as standard or for custom fitment. It is swiftly turning into the fastest growing steel shaft brand in the industry.

Adopted by over 150 professionals, the KBS Tour shafts have recorded multiple wins including several majors.

KBS Tour 90 Review

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• Stable tip section
• Higher CG location
• Firm shaft design
• Light-weight construction
• Good trajectory
• 2-flex system
• Not suitable for fast tempo golf swings

Design and Technology

As the lightest shaft in the KBS Tour range, the KBS Tour 90 shaft is designed to offer golfers with a slow tempo more spin, a higher trajectory, and distance.  It is 20% lighter than a standard steel shaft thus aiding increasing swing, ball speeds, and distance.

The firm shaft design on the Tour 90 offers a softer tip with a higher center of gravity to create a higher ball trajectory.

Combined with the 2-Flex system on the KBS Tour 90 offer a more flexible than the normal shaft.

Specifications

Tapered tip technical specifications.

Regular shaft flex:

• Tip diameter .355 inches
• Butt diameter .600 inches
• Length 36.5 inches to 40.5inches
• Available for 2-iron through 9-iron, and PW

Stiff shaft flex:

• Weight 102g
• Available for 2-iron through 9-iron

Parallel tip technical specifications

• Weight 101g
• Tip diameter .370 inches
• Length 41.25 inches

.370 Parallel shaft is a single length shaft that will be tip and butt trimmed to your required length which can change how the shaft will play.

For the best feel, you must have a smooth tempo. You can still achieve a high swing speed even if you have a smooth tempo.

With the right tempo, you will receive precise feedback on the impact point of the ball on the clubface. No tingle to your fingers even on the coldest days.

Its kick is remarkably smooth with the right tempo swing but if your tempo is too fast, you are sure to encounter difficulties.

Performance

KBS TOUR 90 is the lightest shaft in the KBS Tour range designed for golfers requiring a higher trajectory, additional spin, and maximum distance.

Performance on the short irons is most noticeable with the wedges and 9-iron generating a high trajectory and more spin. This gives you great green-side control.

Golfers with a moderate-to-slow swing speed and slow tempo will achieve the best performance from the KBS Tour 90.

Independent testing reveals that the KBS Tour 90 to be in the region of 9% longer and generate 5% more spin than its foremost rivals.

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Project X shafts are used on all professional tours and a follow up on the Project X Standard version making it accessible to golfers that have swing speed that is lower than that of professional golfers.

Variable wall thickness creates an extra kick at compact for a mid-launch trajectory without sacrificing stability.

Although this is the closest you will come to a universal shaft, it is highly recommended that you conduct proper testing to ensure that the shaft is suited to your swing.

All shafts measure between 36.5 and 40 inches in length, with a tip diameter of 0.355 inches and a butt diameter of 0.600 inches, and produce a mid-flight launch trajectory.

Weight varies between 110g and 125g with 5g intervals.

Flex is available in R, S, and XS.

Nippon’s comprehensive golf shaft use weight and bend to suit every golf swing and tempo offering improved control over trajectory, distance, and direction.

Nippon excels in three key areas

• Desired trajectory
• Accurate distance
• Tight dispersion

The high tip rigidity design steadies the tip through impact thereby reducing unwanted spin, low mid-section rigidity control shaft flex for enhanced control, and the low butt rigidity improve tempo for a smoother feeling on impact.

Shafts are available in 105g, 120g, 125g, and 130g and R, S, X, TX flex options

The shaft lengths vary between 37 and 41 inches, with a tip diameter of 0.355 inches and a butt diameter of 0.600 inches.

Amalgamating the paths of Kim Braly and FST America Corporation In 2008 was a turning point in the golf shaft industry.

The KBS Tour 90 is 20% lighter than comparable steel shafts and ideally suited for golfers with a moderate swing tempo that requires a higher ball trajectory.

Happy golfing with your higher trajectory.

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is it a whole set or the wedge shaft? if the whole set, where can you get them?

it is a whole set. 3-pw there is some on ebay

Let us know if the finish on the irons holds up better than on the wedge shafts.

I find your comment interesting, as virtually every KBS Tour Black Nickel wedge shaft has been sold through our company, and to date we have not had one returned for any reason let alone the finish not holding up.

To explain this.... you guys may not realize but chrome is actually clear in color... the nickel underneath gives your shafts the color. So when you get a shaft that is "smoked chrome" or something like that, then you may have issues with the finish getting damaged.

With KBS Tours, you have to damage both the chrome and the nickel underneath to damage the color.

The KBS Black Nickel sets are manufactured the same way, and I seriously doubt anyone will have any issues with the finish of these shafts.

I do hope this explains how unique this finish is.

I have 5 wedges with the Black Nickel and have not had any issues.

Can't wait to get my hands on the BN shafts for my raw Shinagawa Heads. Just might be one of the best looking set ups ever... Hope to be posting pictures soon.

how is the black nickel version different in feel and performance to the regular kbs tour?

How much will a set run, and who will be stocking them? It's looking like it is between these and the Aerotech Steel Fiber Shafts.

I'm a little hesitant as I was playing some DGS400 Black Chrome Shafts in my wedges, and they weren't very durable. Scratched and Nicked easily just in the bag.

The ones I saw were Jick's.

I was personally waiting for him to give his feedback on durability before buying some of my own. Ijust saw them last week since the first time he installed them about 5 weeks ago. That would probably put him at 12-14 rounds with them.

They look okay from about 10-15 feet but when you are holding the shaft you can tell that the color has worn off in some areas. It looks like splotches.

I will try to ask him to post pics.

The KBS Tour black nickel wedge shaft is a true wedge shaft and is slightly more stable than it's silver counterpart. You will notice that the bottom step is further down the shaft than the last step in the standard KBS Tour shaft.

Hope that helps,

You really can't compare between a graphite and a steel shaft, in terms of playablity they are both excellent shafts but very different. I think you have to decide on the material first then test shafts of the same material.

Honestly, hey....I am a graphite guy (ACCRA is what I do!) and we make kick Word not allowed graphite iron shafts used by Champions and LPGA Tour players.....but if a guy likes steel, comparing graphite is so different. This happens the other way too.....graphite guys will seldom want to go back to steel.

Also, don't worry about the finish of the KBS Tour.....if you get them through any good club fitter, they are fully warranted, and like I said earlier....this is not a powder coat or a stained chrome...this is under the chrome.....so you have to wear through the chrome to damage the finish.

All and all.....you won't go wrong with Aerotech or KBS Tour!

I just got my shipment today!

If I'm not wrong this shaft is suppose to be limited run, I'm sure Gawain can give more info on that issue.

Yes, the "sets" of KBS Tour Black Nickel (3-PW) are a limited edition product, driven from the demand of the wedge shafts by Tour players and our club fitters. There are only about 200 sets in existance, and i think Joe has a bunch of them! I can tell you that as far as I know, all 200 sets were pre booked and all sold to Accra dealers. we are hoping to free up another 10-20 sets from over runs...but nothing confirmed at this point.

They are only available in R, S , & X flexes in taper tip.

The Black Nickel Wedge shafts are an "in line" product and are different than the standard KBS Tour wedge shaft and should produce a slight lower initial launch than the silver wedge.

how does the black nickel iron shafts differ than the chrome version?

i have the black nickel wedge shafts and they are pretty durable as far as i can tell.

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Joe...what can you tell us about the characteristics of those shafts?

BTW...they sound gorgeous!

Joe...what can you tell us about the characteristics of those shafts?   BTW...they sound gorgeous!   RIDE

Call me or i'll call you when i'm free, we'll talk and i can tell you anything you need to know before you can make any decision on your next purchase.

How much for a set of those?

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The black nickel version, as GR mentioned, is a dedicated wedge shaft with a lower first step. Since it's designed to maintain flex in heads heavier than 9i, wedges will feel slightly firmer and fly a bit lower. With conventional stiff tip shafts, this can result in boardy feeling wedges but the KB is far from a conventional shaft.

Pics of the wear I was talking about. Obviously they are bag rub marks.

The KBS Black Nickel sets are manufactured the same way, and I seriously doubt anyone will have any issues with the finish of these shafts. I do hope this explains how unique this finish is.

Can't wait to hear this explaination...

While I love the idea of smoked or black nickel shafts (KBS or other) and I do hope that these are different than other attempts at this I have my reservations that they will be durable enough to maintain a quality appearance over time. So the real question is if we drop the big bcks on these and this issue does occur what will the warranty policy be? Thanks guys; on paper these look awesome! BB

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Just to clarify I asked Jick when he installed them. It seems around mid September. The frequency he plays I would put that at around 15 rounds. We have caddies here that use pull carts.

I have about 12 rounds in mine. They don't look anything like that. I do not have dividers in my bag either.

To this point I am beyond satisfied with the finish and play of these wedges shafts.

I'll check tomorrow if he has dividers in his bag, but even then that shouldn't be an issue if the finish is indeed durable.

I have been playing the Black Nickel wedge shafts in my PW, SW, LW since mid summer (not sure how many rounds) with a lot of in and out of the bag range time in a bag with no dividers. Mine still look pristine. I was interested to see the wear pictures that XXIO posted. Certainly not my experience.

On the playability side, I love them.

Viking Golfer

Pics of the wear I was talking about. Obviously they are bag rub marks.      

Looks interesting, as I said that will be the first 2 shafts we've ever had returned! Have "your buddy" bring them back to the club fitter that put them in for him... and if they are worn by "natural" causes, we will replace them immediately. As I said, he has to wear through the chrome to "wear out" the black.

I look forward to seeing those, to see if that is a "wear" mark or what? It looks like some kind of discoloration, not sure how a shaft "wears" that much just under the grip. I promise to all those hear, to report back, once we receive them.

xxio,   Looks interesting, as I said that will be the first 2 shafts we've ever had returned! Have "your buddy" bring them back to the club fitter that put them in for him... and if they are worn by "natural" causes, we will replace them immediately. As I said, he has to wear through the chrome to "wear out" the black. I look forward to seeing those, to see if that is a "wear" mark or what? It looks like some kind of discoloration, not sure how a shaft "wears" that much just under the grip. I promise to all those hear, to report back, once we receive them.

I wish they were mine so I could return them. We are in the Philippines so the stock of KBS shafts here are very limited.

"My buddy" couldn't care less about the wear. He just wanted to try them out. The wear is all near the head. Nothing near the grip. They are obviously from bag rubs and from taking the club in and out of the bag.

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